Apart from insisting on your poorly defended opinion, candyman, I'd be more offended if ILM mattered to more than, like, 50 people. De La Soul, whose classic albums aren't streaming on Spotify, doesn't need any more wiping out.
― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 23:25 (three years ago) link
"you post in a sort of professorial, condescending tone about black artists (here, limitations of hip hop, the prince thread) and how they lack in your eyes, puts up a lot of people's antennas here as signals of being ways of saying racially problematic things in code"
im fine with being thought of as being condescending towards hip hop, i have a love hate relationship with it. i can accept that. condescending towards all black artists? thats kind of weird. its prob more that the musicians i love are mostly black artists, and i am a critical person. i mean, i posted in the 'is jack white indefensible' thread here and made comments that are hardly full of adulation about his solo material.
anyway, i dont want to make this thread about me. ill leave you all to it.
― candyman, Thursday, 18 February 2021 09:59 (three years ago) link
actually, one thing that does bother me about your post is this specious idea of 'racially problematic things in code'. you are aware that there are many schools of thought within black music, that liking black music does not mean you have to like it *all*, arent you? that you can quite literally have a branford and a wynton in the same family? maybe think about that before you throw around ding-ding allegations.
― candyman, Thursday, 18 February 2021 13:31 (three years ago) link
i thought you were leaving
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 February 2021 13:42 (three years ago) link
I'm just describing the dynamic of what's happening
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 February 2021 13:48 (three years ago) link
you're so fuckin smart I'm surprised you don't catch on
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 February 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link
The breadth of Black music is best described by contrasting two siblings who are both jazz musicians, I agree
― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 18 February 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link
if that's all you draw from a comparison of those two jazz musicians, then idk what to tell you. wynton is a big rap hater and jazz traditionalist, brandon was at one point big rap ally and collabo'd with public enemy, dj premier, etc etc.
"you're so fuckin smart I'm surprised you don't catch on"
i never said i was smart. youre just reading something into the way i type. its funny actually as i often read posts here from ppl in this forum and think they reek of pomposity, in-crowd smugness and self-satisfaction! so maybe, think of it as me just trying to fit in :)
― candyman, Thursday, 18 February 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link
argh, auto correct. *branford
― candyman, Thursday, 18 February 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link
i often read posts here from ppl in this forum and think they reek of pomposity, in-crowd smugness and self-satisfaction!
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 February 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link
sounds like a plan.
― candyman, Thursday, 18 February 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link
*this forum should be 'this thread'
― candyman, Thursday, 18 February 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link
i'm not going to argue that ILX (and ILM in particular) can't be an insular community but the general assimilation of newcomers around here often starts from OH YEAH HERE'S MY OPINION and evolves into non-confrontational conversation; why not skip the line?
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 February 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link
what a cocksnot.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 February 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link
crocker!
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 February 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
HOOOOOOOOLY... pic.twitter.com/5ovLNhePvC— Dee Phunk (@DeePhunk) February 18, 2021
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 February 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link
Teen Titans Go is really the best
― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 18 February 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
they spelled "Joliceur" and "Posdnuos" correctly but couldn't get "Pasemaster," tsk
― stilt in the wings (sic), Thursday, 18 February 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link
would've been very amused if they pulled back to reveal an animated prince paul watching this whole scene from a distance with a sour look on his face
is the evil music stealing alien named Srehthob Renraw?
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 February 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link
Yobymmot
― stilt in the wings (sic), Thursday, 18 February 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link
"what a cocksnot."
does your mum allow you to use the internet?
― candyman, Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link
obviously, anal wart.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link
now i have a question for you:
how many times did the batmobile catch a flat?
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link
how many feathers are on a perdew (?) chicken?
― candyman, Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link
nada nunca.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link
"oh wow, 100 new answers about the great rap group de la soul, this should be fun!" i thought to myself before i actually started reading the posts in this thread
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link
lol
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link
don't even
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link
def worst revive of the year so far
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link
i mean that TTG clip was dope but
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
thanks. i can finally say i was a part of something noetworthy.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 February 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link
that no one clowned candyman for being british tells me ILM has evolved <3
― rob, Thursday, 18 February 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link
After DECADES of legal battles, De La Soul has reportedly regained ownership of their masters. 🙌🏾 https://t.co/UuBbz9MayQ pic.twitter.com/Dd9o3NlQ32— Okayplayer (@okayplayer) August 9, 2021
― city worker, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
Dooooope
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
Hopefully that'll bring down the prices of their albums - at least in the U.S. they're out-of-print and ridiculously expensive. (They seem more likely to be in-print and cheap in Europe, Australia and elsewhere outside of the U.S.)
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
hopefully they'll finally earn some money from those albums
― bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
Hah, of course, that too!
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link
aw shit
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
Nice
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
I wonder if these will show up on Spotify soon, or are there still sample issues?
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link
Samples, or label rights?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link
Pretty sure there's a grandfather clause for samples, which is why Paul's Boutique still exists.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link
Not a grandfather clause - it comes down to whether or not the language of the original license covered future technology or changes in the way music is eventually distributed. It's crazy, you're basically anticipating things you can't envision so you have to draft language that's broad enough to cover it (but not so broad that the licensor will balk at the agreement).
The NY Times did a lengthy write-up on De La Soul's situation in 2016:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/arts/music/de-la-soul-digital-albums.html
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link
the article says that label rights being sorted out at last means everything's coming to streaming & digital storefronts soon
― ufo, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link
xpost BBs belatedly cleared Paul's samples, iirc
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link
expected release date is november apparently
― ufo, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link
aaliyah and de la soul are certainly two of the more painful missing artists
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 04:07 (two years ago) link
Their legacies have definitely taken a hit by not being available on the source most people under 30 use to listen to music.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 04:40 (two years ago) link
under 30s still love aaliyah ime
― ufo, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 04:42 (two years ago) link
also last I checked, more specifically youtube is that source, and I'm sure their stuff reappears and disappears there often. I didn't check if it's real, but there's a full album upload for Aaliyah with 5M views
― rob, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link