De La Soul - Classic or Dud?

just sort of making a general point here, not responding to candyman directly, but posdnous has an incredible rap voice, flat out. immediately distinctive, conveys his personality that frames his poetic style w a kind of casual profundity that's impossible to replicate

am i a fan of pos' rap style bc i know when i hear his voice the music is going to be good, or was the music good because of his rap style? a contradiction at the heart of great art ofc

Also arent you the guy who said hip hop is jazz? Lol.

― candyman, Wednesday, February 17, 2021 3:10 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

d-40 still otm here

pops used to say it reminded him of bebop

don't you know that things go in cycles?

posdnous has an incredible rap voice, flat out. immediately distinctive, conveys his personality that frames his poetic style w a kind of casual profundity that's impossible to replicate

otm, close thread

xp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VsgkIE-RHg

Apart from insisting on your poorly defended opinion, candyman, I'd be more offended if ILM mattered to more than, like, 50 people. De La Soul, whose classic albums aren't streaming on Spotify, doesn't need any more wiping out.

"you post in a sort of professorial, condescending tone about black artists (here, limitations of hip hop, the prince thread) and how they lack in your eyes, puts up a lot of people's antennas here as signals of being ways of saying racially problematic things in code"

im fine with being thought of as being condescending towards hip hop, i have a love hate relationship with it. i can accept that. condescending towards all black artists? thats kind of weird. its prob more that the musicians i love are mostly black artists, and i am a critical person. i mean, i posted in the 'is jack white indefensible' thread here and made comments that are hardly full of adulation about his solo material.

anyway, i dont want to make this thread about me. ill leave you all to it.

actually, one thing that does bother me about your post is this specious idea of 'racially problematic things in code'. you are aware that there are many schools of thought within black music, that liking black music does not mean you have to like it *all*, arent you? that you can quite literally have a branford and a wynton in the same family? maybe think about that before you throw around ding-ding allegations.

i thought you were leaving

I'm just describing the dynamic of what's happening

you're so fuckin smart I'm surprised you don't catch on

The breadth of Black music is best described by contrasting two siblings who are both jazz musicians, I agree

if that's all you draw from a comparison of those two jazz musicians, then idk what to tell you. wynton is a big rap hater and jazz traditionalist, brandon was at one point big rap ally and collabo'd with public enemy, dj premier, etc etc.

"you're so fuckin smart I'm surprised you don't catch on"

i never said i was smart. youre just reading something into the way i type. its funny actually as i often read posts here from ppl in this forum and think they reek of pomposity, in-crowd smugness and self-satisfaction! so maybe, think of it as me just trying to fit in :)

argh, auto correct. *branford

i often read posts here from ppl in this forum and think they reek of pomposity, in-crowd smugness and self-satisfaction!

sounds like a plan.

*this forum should be 'this thread'

i'm not going to argue that ILX (and ILM in particular) can't be an insular community but the general assimilation of newcomers around here often starts from OH YEAH HERE'S MY OPINION and evolves into non-confrontational conversation; why not skip the line?

what a cocksnot.

crocker!

HOOOOOOOOLY... pic.twitter.com/5ovLNhePvC

— Dee Phunk (@DeePhunk) February 18, 2021

Teen Titans Go is really the best

they spelled "Joliceur" and "Posdnuos" correctly but couldn't get "Pasemaster," tsk

would've been very amused if they pulled back to reveal an animated prince paul watching this whole scene from a distance with a sour look on his face

is the evil music stealing alien named Srehthob Renraw?

Yobymmot

"what a cocksnot."

does your mum allow you to use the internet?

obviously, anal wart.

now i have a question for you:

how many times did the batmobile catch a flat?

how many feathers are on a perdew (?) chicken?

nada nunca.

"oh wow, 100 new answers about the great rap group de la soul, this should be fun!" i thought to myself before i actually started reading the posts in this thread

lol

don't even

def worst revive of the year so far

i mean that TTG clip was dope but

thanks. i can finally say i was a part of something noetworthy.

that no one clowned candyman for being british tells me ILM has evolved <3

After DECADES of legal battles, De La Soul has reportedly regained ownership of their masters. 🙌🏾 https://t.co/UuBbz9MayQ pic.twitter.com/Dd9o3NlQ32

— Okayplayer (@okayplayer) August 9, 2021

Dooooope

Hopefully that'll bring down the prices of their albums - at least in the U.S. they're out-of-print and ridiculously expensive. (They seem more likely to be in-print and cheap in Europe, Australia and elsewhere outside of the U.S.)

hopefully they'll finally earn some money from those albums

Hah, of course, that too!

aw shit

Nice

I wonder if these will show up on Spotify soon, or are there still sample issues?

Samples, or label rights?

Pretty sure there's a grandfather clause for samples, which is why Paul's Boutique still exists.

Not a grandfather clause - it comes down to whether or not the language of the original license covered future technology or changes in the way music is eventually distributed. It's crazy, you're basically anticipating things you can't envision so you have to draft language that's broad enough to cover it (but not so broad that the licensor will balk at the agreement).

The NY Times did a lengthy write-up on De La Soul's situation in 2016:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/arts/music/de-la-soul-digital-albums.html