Cyberpunk 2077

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Whole lotta teal in this game

calstars, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 13:37 (three years ago) link

people on PC would harp on the gameplay but gush about the graphics, i just don't get it

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 14:22 (three years ago) link

yeah i'd be the opposite. i built a new pc just before this came out (not for this game -- in fact buying it was an impulse decision to "see what my new computer could do") and while i enjoyed the gunplay and the golden path missions and some of the sidequests stuff, the degree to which i needed to turn down my graphics to get even a decent framerate was very annoying and it just didn't look that good. the hud/ui, which at the very least i would have expected to look slick as fuck for a cyberpunk game, barely felt a step above fallout 3? and since the computer i built isn't a multi-thousand-dollar powerhouse or anything, i figured ah its just not that powerful, maybe nothing runs THAT good. then i installed forza horizon 4 and play it on ultra in 1440p (vs cyberpunk which i played on 1080p, didnt have new monitor yet) and consistently get 60-80 frames so uhhh

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 18 February 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

even when someone can get it running at 4k or whatever, it's all either so drab or sickly bright in such an unappealing way. too much asphalt, and how much better have we gotten at rendering asphalt

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 18 February 2021 22:23 (three years ago) link

It's just not a good game,i think is the issue

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Friday, 19 February 2021 00:56 (three years ago) link

You guys have some pretty high standards

calstars, Friday, 19 February 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link

Tbf dl's a Witcher fan (as am I), so you'd hope Cyberpunk 2077 tops it.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 February 2021 01:14 (three years ago) link

i tried 2 times to get into the witcher and bounced off hard. i liked 2077 enough to finish it and come close to 100%ing it even. its fun! it has fun parts! im just saying look wise i kinda expected more than "last gen but moreso"

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 19 February 2021 03:44 (three years ago) link

cyberpunk is massively flawed and probably needed at least another six months before it was released

but it's also one of the most exquisitely-realised, real-feeling game worlds i've ever played in and it has a genuine, tender affection for its main characters, who are all unusually well-written

so y'know it's a land of contrasts i guess

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 February 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link

I'm not big on the cyberpunk aesthetic (fantasy 4evah) so I expect I'll enjoy this less than The Witcher series, but I still plan on playing it once it'll be fully patched and I'll have built myself a beefier rig. So… in 2022, probably.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 February 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link

I've heard that the cyberpunk aesthetic and world building is a mile wide and an inch deep, and since I was profoundly disappointed by the Witcher, this will be a hard pass.

RZA Minnelli (Leee), Friday, 19 February 2021 15:44 (three years ago) link

the genre of cyberpunk is pretty silly at this point, i mean it was always silly, its just kinda antiquated now that were living in the damn cyberpunk, theres just an aesthetic left, a futures past thing, which could be cool... i guess!

lag∞n, Friday, 19 February 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

i agree, cyberpunk needs to be reinvented

cybertwee

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 February 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

a whole world of neon signs and cyborg prostitutes is not cyberpunk, there also needs to be a farm

lag∞n, Friday, 19 February 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link

getting a computer face implant was always a metaphor, for the iphone

lag∞n, Friday, 19 February 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

too many cyberpunk games, not enough cyberfunk games

na (NA), Friday, 19 February 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link

otm

lag∞n, Friday, 19 February 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

in real cyberpunk 2020 there are rural areas, right? or at least, there are nomads. and i don't know, maybe the cyberpunks don't need farms because they're on soylentX

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 February 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

its important for contrast, to show us what weve lost, thats why you go to michael caines house

lag∞n, Friday, 19 February 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link

Cyberpunk 2077 is a late 80s idea of the future since that's when the board game RPG first came out. All futurism ends up as retrofuturism eventually. Cyberpunk as a genre just seems to have hit that much earlier because the imagined futures it showed us were set, well, now mostly.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 19 February 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

there's a solar farm AND a some-kinda-grain-probably-corn farm. you don't have a lot of missions in either tho. there's also a badlands to the east which is yeah nomad country

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 19 February 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

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pplains, Friday, 19 February 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link

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calstars, Friday, 19 February 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link

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calstars, Saturday, 20 February 2021 05:21 (three years ago) link

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calstars, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link

^ ok. I'm still not convinced, but you're proving your point.

pplains, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 13:46 (three years ago) link

Yeh. Sorry I just can’t get over how beautiful this game looks.

calstars, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 13:55 (three years ago) link

is this w/ a big fancy rtx rig? mine looked p good but that looks REAL good
(btw most of my graphics complaints are directed at hud and menus. rly feel like they'd have benefitted from more... something)

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

Speaking of which, I’m kind of tempted to get a new GPU as I’ve had my GTX 1070 for four years now but the ongoing shortage is more of an impediment than I expected. And it looks like there’s no end in sight.

pomenitul, Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

This game runs fine on my 1070

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:46 (three years ago) link

I was so lucky to get a 2060 before the miners went crazy and the scalpers got organised.

This game is very RTX ON with all the puddles and wotnot but I'm not sure I'm into the design of the world at all. Outside of the metal on everyone's face I'm not sure its even a well imagined future city/world. The last Deus Ex game had way better world design, and its not even that good! And even in terms of GRAPHIX, I'm playing RDR2 right now and it looks way better, as well as having significantly better gameplay. I know it's nor fair to compare, but if you're an open world game in 202x you're either gotta beat RDR2/BotW/H:ZD or come with something new, and I just don't think CP77 does on either front.

I have no couch and I must stream (NotEnough), Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link

This game runs fine on my 1070

Oh I’m sure it’s fine at mid-settings. Truth be told, even if I had an RTX 3080, I’d probably hold off until the game is fully patched anyway.

pomenitul, Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link

is this w/ a big fancy rtx rig? mine looked p good but that looks REAL good
(btw most of my graphics complaints are directed at hud and menus. rly feel like they'd have benefitted from more... something)

2014 MacBook w/ GeForce now RTX

calstars, Thursday, 25 February 2021 22:41 (three years ago) link

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Virtual dream plaza

calstars, Thursday, 25 February 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

Are the Johnny sightings around town pre determined or based on your current path? He was critiquing this busker’s guitar skills and I was like nah

calstars, Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

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Kowloon vibez

calstars, Saturday, 6 March 2021 03:37 (three years ago) link

how far through are you? i just shook down Fingers

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 6 March 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link

2nd act I guess (garbage dump loading screen) with Keanu popping up now and then
I’ve been grinding on contract missions to get some better gear and level up before I continue with the story
Lot of places to explore and get familiar with
I like the idea of just hanging on a street corner for a couple hours

calstars, Saturday, 6 March 2021 13:52 (three years ago) link

ha, does anything happen or you're just taking it in? i have to take some time off the story next play

i get reminded of Hong Kong a lot too. Wife is from there

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 6 March 2021 13:53 (three years ago) link

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On the roller coaster with Johnny

calstars, Sunday, 7 March 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

The modders are having fun with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvK_7Ohk16k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP6cRCYYff4

Another playthrough in (on Stadia, as a new GPU has been on order since December). I don't get the lovely ray-traced reflections/shadows, but also very few bugs (mostly audio looping requiring a reload), none of which are game breakers.

The good is pretty obvious: Night City looks great, especially some neighborhoods like Kabuki and Japantown; fine story & dialogue, good voice acting (Keanu and male V are actually the weakest, here), great character animation (and in 10 languages), good original score and diagetic music, quest design permitting multiple playstyles. And the bad is pretty obvious: poor NPC AI; poor game balance, wherein if one engages with much open world ("side") content, there's no challenge at the highest difficulty; a paucity of meaningful player decisions; and non-immersive presentation of open world content.

Aside from the poor performance on last-gen consoles and most PCs, the pros and cons are pretty similar to those for Witcher III at launch. I think this game will get sorted, and may attract an audience as more migrate to current systems. But CD PR isn't as modder friendly as Bethesda, and the NPCs don't have the rich characterization of a golden age Bioware game. So I'm not sure this will have legs.

A Like Supreme (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link

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calstars, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:38 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

Haven't had much chance to look into this one just yet, but even with ps1 graphics I'm very interested from what this trailer is showing us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDA3RQpSqEw

Diggin Holes (Ste), Thursday, 12 August 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

"Without Judgement" is the name of the game btw

Diggin Holes (Ste), Thursday, 12 August 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

Was hoping this would be the Action Button vid for this finally going up, back to waiting I guess :(

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Thursday, 12 August 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link

I have been playing the Cyberpunk game

mixed feelings, but it's definitely visually dense

mh, Friday, 13 August 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

https://kotaku.com/cyberpunk-2077-patch-1-5-combat-perks-traffic-ai-ps5-xb-1848537538#replies

Guess now is the time to give it a shot if you’re on next gen. Free 5 hour trial.

circa1916, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 01:51 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Now that the patch is released (and I have a dozen or so “quality of life" mods installed), I’ve picked this up and am having a blast playing it like an action game with open-world elements rather than the "next gen open world game" the developers pitched it as. I’m playing a "hack and slash" build (i.e., weaken with quickhacks then go in with my katana) and it’s pretty satisfying when the combat music kicks in and I’m leaping out of stealth with sword swinging.

As an open-world game, I don’t find it as satisfying as Red Dead Redemption 2; the world doesn’t feel as “alive”. That’s a vague descriptor, since I don’t really know how to articulate it; it’s more of a feeling, I suppose. For example, the people on the street in Cyberpunk feel more obviously like bots, whereas I was content to stand on a balcony in RDR2 and just watch folks go about their day, or follow a random walking merchant in The Witcher 3 as they wandered the roads. Or I’d stumble into little scripted events when traveling in RDR2 happening in the background. I imagine that’s easier to script in a more sparsely populated setting like RDR2 than Night City, though. (Granted, I’m one of those nerds who appreciates unnecessary, mundane things in RPGs, so wish V could sit at a noodle counter to pass the time before a mission, rather than just “using” from the inventory etc.)

That aside, it looks gorgeous, and I dig driving around at night a lot. I find the side content more engaging than, say, Ghost of Tsushima. There’s valid criticism that it doesn’t feel “new/futuristic” enough in its expression of cyberpunk, but I don’t mind that at all. I read all Gibson et al in high school, and even played a session of the tabletop game back then (around 2001 or so), so it suits me find that it still feels rooted in 80s/90s. I even leaned into it by installing a mod that switches one of the radio station to play stuff like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMzCpy0fXc

blatherskite, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 15:32 (two years ago) link

excellent thoughts, thanks blatherskite

good music choice

mh, Thursday, 10 March 2022 19:01 (two years ago) link

Thanks. Perfect example: I was cruising around yesterday just to explore, and stumbled on this protest at a brain dance studio:

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I walk up to it and… nothing. There’s no dialog from the protest leader or any of the crowd members. Not even crowd noise. They’re just mutely pumping their arms. By contrast, I think of a time I was playing Red Dead Redemption 2 and stumbled across a little event as I passed by a clearing: three KKK members were arguing about how to light a cross, which then fell on them and set them on fire. It was a neat little moment that felt like the world was happening beyond my character.

(I think the worst offender I’ve encountered is L.A. Noire, which I should have loved due to its subject matter, but was completely dead: nothing ever happened in the open world outside of missions, despite how beautifully rendered the city was.)

blatherskite, Friday, 11 March 2022 17:03 (two years ago) link


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