Acts that are not on Spotify

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Not MBV just in general but I've never quite understood how some studio albums have a number of tracks greyed out whilst others on the album aren't. Are tracks licensed individually then?

groovypanda, Monday, 15 February 2021 14:50 (three years ago) link

Like it makes sense that it happens on compilations albums by various artists but always puzzled me why it sometimes happens on studio albums by one artist

groovypanda, Monday, 15 February 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link

Probably different publishing agreements for songs with different writers?

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 15 February 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link

Spotify can link up the same recording across multiple albums, so sometimes when you see a mix of available and grayed-out tracks on an album, it's because THAT album isn't available in your region at all, but the non-grayed songs also appear on some other album (or compilation) that IS available, so Spotify is still allowed to play them.

(But yes, song-by-song licensing issues do happen, too.)

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 15 February 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link

looks like no acts are on Spotify at the moment, at least for me. trying to listen to the ILM top 77 tracks playlist and it will only play like 10 seconds of a track then it just stops.

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Monday, 15 February 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link

so i wanted to hear the david axelrod remix of unkle's "rabbit in your headlights" and not only is it not on spotify, i can't find it available anywhere to hear online. the single is cheap on discogs, but what the hell?

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

so i wanted to hear the david axelrod remix of unkle's "rabbit in your headlights" and not only is it not on spotify,

well, until now, i had no idea such a thing existed (its not obvious from discogs listings ..).
i have the underdog version, but still.
thanks for ruining my evening.

mark e, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

but what the hell?

the majority of recorded music is not available to hear online

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link

MBV's Tremolo and Glider also on US Spotify (along w/Isn't Anything and Loveless)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link

well, until now, i had no idea such a thing existed (its not obvious from discogs listings ..).
i have the underdog version, but still.
thanks for ruining my evening.

― mark e, Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:25 PM

sorry. if it makes you feel any better, the remix is not that drastically different from what i remember. axelrod just added some string arrangements. it's worth hearing at least a time or two if you like the original. i just hadn't heard it in years and thought, "hey what about that!?" only to find that yeah: what about that? guess i won't know for now.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 23:19 (three years ago) link

Perfect from Now On & Keep It like a Secret is up! (in Sweden anyway)

mathiasa, Thursday, 18 February 2021 12:28 (three years ago) link

Here's the Axelrod remix - https://www.fromsmash.com/T80I-LPdIc-bt

The Goodies font (Maresn3st), Thursday, 18 February 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link

hero.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 February 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

blimey - that's rather wonderful, thank you mares, very much appreciated.

mark e, Thursday, 18 February 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

wow, just seen that most of Henry Cow has appeared on Spotify since the last time I was looking for it. Definitely only had like 3 or 4 tracks up when i was using Spotify to fuel my radio show like 3 years ago. A Peel session and I think a track each from a couple of compilations.
NOw all the Studio stuff and Concerts at least.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 12:21 (three years ago) link

Been thinking about Gorky's Zygotic Mynci recently and how it's a shame their earlier albums like Bwyd Time are pretty hard to find these days. Their last album Sleep/Holiday (which isn't that great, admittedly) isn't on Spotify either

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 12:40 (three years ago) link

lots of K-pop artists have disappeared:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56237626

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 13:58 (three years ago) link

the one I can never figure out - and this isn't limited to spotify - but why is Genesis's The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway not on some streaming services when all their other albums are. and it's not like this is some era that's not on, the albums on either side of it are available.

it's available on qobuz which is based in europe so i don't know if that makes a difference.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link

lots of K-pop artists have disappeared

well yeah, nothing new there

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:01 (three years ago) link

yeah, what's this thread even for?

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link

No Ash Ra Tempel except a live album from 2000

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link

Tag Team's label collapsed in the late '90s, so their entire catalog is unavailable on Spotify except for their one hit. I can imagine why but I wouldn't mind learning more about the reasons for that decision.

— Todd in the Shadows (@ShadowTodd) March 8, 2021

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 March 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

was surprised to see this during the all-star game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDAg3VkZPg8

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 March 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

^the fact it's OOP (Amazon Mktplce has 1 new copy offered for $902) and not available for download seems more notable than disappearing from streaming

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Monday, 8 March 2021 22:23 (three years ago) link

There's a used copy at every Half-Price Books in the country, no reason to get FulePhished on Amazon.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 March 2021 22:42 (three years ago) link

And there's a ton on eBay for <$6 before shipping.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 March 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

Guess I was misled about its value when I glanced @ Amazon

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Monday, 8 March 2021 22:47 (three years ago) link

It is interesting that it has been scrubbed from a digital markets on top of being physically OOP.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link

I remember Lynn's son/road manager complaining in her American Masters ep that--despite it being her biggest-selling album--they didn't make alot of money off it, although it ultimately got her more and better live bookings.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The fucking DENTISTS. Seriously, Spotify? Yes, a few records are on there. But far from all.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 04:07 (three years ago) link

Ulla's album from last year is now greyed out on UK Spotify :(

groovypanda, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link

you can buy it for less than the price of a month's Spotify!

putting your releases on Spotify for a few months here and there might be a more practical use of the service than having everything up regularly

armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link

yeah I was gonna say it finally got reissued, see boomkat https://boomkat.com/products/tumbling-towards-a-wall

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link

“finally” lol, well I was really waiting for it anyway

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

still no catalogue anita baker on us spotify.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 17 April 2021 13:47 (three years ago) link

the first pj harvey album has disappeared

groovemaaan, Saturday, 17 April 2021 14:52 (three years ago) link

Christ the soundtrack for Natural Born Killers is a right mess; literally half of it (Patti Smith, Cohen, Jane’s, Cowboy Junkies... ) is missing. Some kind of weird rights issue with the tracks that have dialogue over them perhaps.

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link

The first Verve album has disappeared from streaming services this year.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

How is it possible that Ray Charles' Hit the Road Jack is not available on US Spotify?? You'd think it would be the kind of song that's available on a dozen compilations.

Alba, Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link

a lot of Ray Charles is missing

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link

I always run into the artist whose entire discography is available on Spotify, expect for the album I'm looking for. Marshall Crenshaw's debut for instance.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 3 June 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

a lot of Ray Charles is missing

Ah yeah, I should have done a Ctrl-F on the thread before posting. I'm curious whether it's something in common with other ABC label artists or something specific to Ray Charles. I like to imagine there are some high-level negotiations going on, with the estate playing hardball, but the truth is no doubt more mundane.

I also have very little understanding of the rules of when things fall out of copyright. Is it related to when the artist died, or just the date of the recording?

Alba, Thursday, 3 June 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link

All of Daniel Lopatin's Oneohtrix Point Never stuff is up, but not his Chuck Person ECCOjams.

yeah but how, Thursday, 3 June 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

Is it related to when the artist died, or just the date of the recording?

It's complicated and depends on many factors, including when the work was published, who owns the copyright (individual or corporate entity), etc.

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Thursday, 3 June 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link

I'm curious whether it's something in common with other ABC label artists or something specific to Ray Charles

It's specific to Ray Charles. When he signed with ABC, his deal gave him-among other things-ownership of his masters. What he was still alive, his people worked out a deal with Rhino for reissue campaign that stalled out after a wave or two of titles (a similar thing happened around the same time with Rhino and Curtis Mayfield & the Curtom catalogue). The Ray Charles Foundation is now working with Concord Records, but all they've put up on Spotify from that era is a single of "Georgia On My Mind" and a Modern Sounds In Country & Western twofer.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 June 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

That's great detail - thank you.

Alba, Thursday, 3 June 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

Glad I could help! On closer inspection, I see also that Genius+Soul=Jazz (Charles's 1961 album on Impulse!) is also up.

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 June 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link

Ray has a six disc collection due out in September on tangerine records that will be up on spotify in September
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/y8pntkgn98n9wb0el8ikn/_True-Genius_-Full-Tracklist.docx?dl=0&rlkey=sgfbi25ac7qwsgso1lyqur1yc

two weeks pass...

very, very unfortunately there is hardly any prime-era Olivia Newton-John on Spotify: yes, her soundtrack hits are there, but apart from those there's just two of her 70s albums and 1985's Soul Kiss.

(the weird thing is that it doesn't seem to be a label thing: it's all MCA. also the stuff that *is* there)

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 23 June 2021 07:39 (two years ago) link


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