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A-ha! Didn't scroll up *that* far! :) I'll mention it in the polls thread and see if it can be slotted in for coming months, regardless of whether I end up involved myself.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 13 February 2021 10:39 (three years ago) link

maybe wait for this year's album? vv curious about that one

StanM, Saturday, 13 February 2021 10:43 (three years ago) link

There was a flurry of asking around the time Double Negative came out (when, weirdly, I had the time to do it) and I asked for a bit of time for that record to settle in so it didn't dominate nominations. Then the world went to shit.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Saturday, 13 February 2021 11:06 (three years ago) link

xp is there supposed to be an album this year? I'm dying to know how they follow up Double Negative

Vinnie, Saturday, 13 February 2021 11:47 (three years ago) link

Hopefully in the Fall. It still takes a long time to set up a release. I wish you could hear it NOW. Finishing a record and then having to wait 3-6 months before it is in stores is an unavoidable drag, but a good lesson in patience and reflection. Thank you for asking! https://t.co/FMs9sKwdCg

— LOW (@lowtheband) February 12, 2021

treefell, Saturday, 13 February 2021 12:42 (three years ago) link

omg. they never let you down. seeing them on IG live every friday has been a modern miracle... feels like you're having a personal skype concert with them or something.

maelin, Saturday, 13 February 2021 13:18 (three years ago) link

Wow.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 February 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link

I'm dying to know how they follow up Double Negative

my guess based on the relatively quick turnaround and heir career trajectory thus far: probably not another Double Negative level stylistic leap into newer/harsher sounds. but who knows!

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Saturday, 13 February 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link

Looks like BJ Burton is producing again so I'm guessing more of the same

new Low album will be first time you’ve heard a guitar

— BJ Burton (@beejburton) February 8, 2021

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 13 February 2021 14:52 (three years ago) link

that's the kind of tweet i wanna see

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 February 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link

That's a clever tweet that can be read several different ways.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 February 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

In a cave under a river in NE Minneapolis. https://t.co/NTGeaZJXar

— LOW (@lowtheband) February 12, 2021

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

that's the kind of tweet i wanna see

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:32 (three years ago) link

yeah sign me up lol

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Saturday, 13 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

oh shit

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 February 2021 14:41 (three years ago) link

Gotta say I'm hoping for the 'actually sounds like a guitar' meaning rather than 'you've never heard a guitar sound like this meaning. My uncool conservative opinion is that his production obscures too much of their actual playing & touch, and it's not what I want from a Low album.

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

I'm into the idea of their records morphing into unrecognizable abstraction while their live band arrangement stays intact

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

"you've never heard a guitar before this" has me drooling over the concept that this could be like a bj burton'd-up take on a great destroyer style rawk record

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link

I share Jordan's uncool conservative opinion.

I want a new Low album that doesn't sound like someone couldn't stop wondering what that button does.

Major D in QAnon (onimo), Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link

I already have like 12 hours of studio recordings that sounds like the band low playing as three humans in a room. I'm perfectly happy with more records of an entity called "Low" seemingly transmitting sad nightmares from the void

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

saw them on the Double Negative tour, was amazing. they had some Pink Floyd style video/light panels behind them, staging really worked (ruled even)

I loved the show so much it somewhat diminished the album for me, they definitely weren't doing a straight live sound, there was some of the effect that's all over DN but it was different, a little less extreme but really melded the record's sound with the live sound in a (imo) better less intrusive way

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link

Weirder Low >>>>>> Staid Low, especially at this point, for me. Came onboard in '96 and love nearly every record (still have little reaction to 'C'mon' and 'Ones and Sixes'). But give me the 'Bombscare,' the 'Trust,' the 'Drums & Guns,' the 'Double Negative'.

There are many, many people who can make lovely, plaintive, simple music. There are not many people who can make those records I mentioned. They seemed hugely rejuvinated by their expanding sound palette and experimentation on the last tour--searching seems to suit them better than "being home" at this point.

Soundslike, Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link

The exception: if they did an album of all chamber orchestra and found/made acoustic instruments, then they could do something amazing with a limited "production". Their own 'Mark Hollis' record...

Soundslike, Sunday, 14 February 2021 20:04 (three years ago) link

I'm happy with any Low album, tbh, but lean more toward the Soundslike view— we've heard what Low can do with more "normal" instrumentation and production, and while I love those records, I'm also hoping it continues in the weird vein.

I will also just say, as I've said before, that "C'Mon" is just not a very good record.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Monday, 15 February 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link

I've said it before but Drums & Guns is my favorite, I wish Alan would get back to making beats or getting hands-on with the production like that (at least that's my understanding of how it was made). It just feels more personal.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 15 February 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

I keep thinking someone like Vladislav Delay would be a good producer for them though, he can create elemental noise but also did an amazing job staying out of the way on that Mirel Wagner album.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 15 February 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link

double negative was so cool and singular, i'm really excited to hear where they push things next

my understanding from interviews is they were all very hands-on with the production on it though, it wasn't just they played the songs and then got bj burton to fuck around with them. it sounded like they came to the sessions with fragments of songs written, and then they spent a lot of time all experimenting with sounds along with bj to flesh those out.

ufo, Monday, 15 February 2021 10:57 (three years ago) link

Yeah, it sounds like they would give him some raw material, he would mess around with it and turn it into something, and then they would come back and write/record over that? From the unfortunately named board:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1261587-lows-double-negative-sound-awesome-production-info.html

"arrangement and structure of the songs shifted as I unlocked the musical elements...as far as words and the melodies, that’s Low. they are from another world."

It's the role of a producer, it's cool, but also more control shaping the records than anyone else has had on a Low record to my knowledge. Normally I'd be fine with it but Low is such an insular, intimate world that I find it distracting, idk. I certainly don't want them to just repeat what they've done before though.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 15 February 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

@soundslike: ones and sixes is weirder low

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 February 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

Yeah--there are a couple tracks on 'Ones & Sixes' that sound like a trial run for 'Double Negative,' but overall it just never hit me (though more than 'C'mon').

Soundslike, Monday, 15 February 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

In case there's anybody that didn't hear the 'Bombscare' EP (wasn't compiled in the rarities box)-- it's just astonishing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRoIbBbJx4U

'Secret Name' had been my favorite of theirs, but circa 2000 is when I feel like they started to really unlock the breadth of their potential (while still keeping the fundamental core of Low-ness). 'Bombscare' really is the precursor to 'Drums & Guns' and 'Double Negative,' hasn't aged a day.

Soundslike, Monday, 15 February 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

I would place it at Songs for a Dead Pilot. That EP was a massive jolt - the first substantial thing they did without Kramer.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 15 February 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link

The track list on that YouTube video for Bombscare includes "4-Way Behind." I was disappointed when I realized that "4" was the track number.

Hideous Lump, Monday, 15 February 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

https://www.kexp.org/read/2018/10/18/always-trying-work-it-out-conversation-lows-alan-sparhawk/

this interview has more about the double negative sessions, it's a great read

ufo, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

looks like we're getting a new album this fall:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CM2wBG0jIgr/

donna rouge, Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

Eh, looks pretty generic. Disappointing.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

a "disappointing descent to banality", says early review

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link

Harmony Magazine: "poorly executed harmonies...grating" 2.5/5

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link

Polyvinyl Chloride insists "becoming Low album" when pressed for details

Evan, Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link

lol

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 March 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link

these rock stars with their rock star lives, man

Taking the week off from live Instagram show. Drummers all busy and bass player has drivers ed. Happy birthday, @DotsAndLoopsMcr See you all next week. Get them shots. Breathe.

— LOW (@lowtheband) March 26, 2021

StanM, Friday, 26 March 2021 19:53 (three years ago) link

Leatherclad Icon Alan Sparhawk Arrested After 3AM Fistfight with Anthony Kiedis in Strip Club Parking Lot

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 March 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

SCOOP : the new album is called Hey What

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AulwhP5Zec

StanM, Saturday, 10 April 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link

(they reveal arount 23m10s)

StanM, Saturday, 10 April 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QDb9dMhVN8

StanM, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

^beautiful just as one would imagine it would be

that's not my post, Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link

one of the only bands capable of making an actually worthwhile version of this song in 2021

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link

https://archive.org/details/Low1998-10-26.flac16

i revisit this set time and time again... immaculate soundboard recording. the spiritualized cover, the "you can't use words like that, saint louise is listening" at the beginning of 'lazy'...

maelin, Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

wow that set is great! dunno why i never thought to seek out live low before

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

I know why I haven't, and that's probably because anything I find would be so awesome that is all I would listen to.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link


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