Pavement:Classic or Dud

Haha the whispered part is SO "The Beautiful People", I'm assuming it's parody. Never noticed that before

xp Wasn’t that the podcast Interview that started that weird flap, where Nigel tweeted like “I slept on floors” etc.

funny thing, they had already made their stoner album 2 albums before

there's nothing really stonery about major leagues

worst pavement album track!! (okay maybe 'cept some spiral songs)

Kennel D
Date w/IKEA
Passat Dream

Worst SM track in Pavement?

For me maybe Newark Wilder

re: Albert's post, that's from a Pitchfork story that had the headline Stephen Malkmus Opens Up About Recording “Overproduced” Terror Twilight With Nigel Godrich

Godrich saw it and responded with this.

Stephen Malkmus saw Godrich's tweet and responded with this, and Godrich replied.

Actually let me try pasting in the links raw - they should show up, right?

I literally slept on a friend's floor in NYC to be able to make that album.. https://t.co/0NeMT1Q0AV

— nigel godrich 🌈 (@nigelgod) February 18, 2017

Love you too dear Stephen.. one of my fav people ... just wanted to point out what a lame headline that was... :)

— nigel godrich 🌈 (@nigelgod) February 18, 2017

Agh, Malkmus's tweet got lost. Here it is:

@pitchfork I love Nigel and can't even believe I got to record with him!!! Towering skills and fucking fun to hang with.

— Stephen malkmus (@dronecoma) February 18, 2017

Kennel D
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noooooooooo

Passat Dream
ok yeah prob

this godrich tracklist is pretty bad

I could see the Godrich tracklist working if Platform Blues did something different when it kicked in. . . it's pretty great before it does.

I like it but don’t know if it’s just b/c it puts the album in a new light (don’t know if it would have “worked” as the main tracklist)

a big part of the problem here isn't that the songs are bad per se, it's maybe just the weakest Pavement collection of all, so it's hard to get excited by a lot of it.

Both TT and Brighten are made up of too many sluggish to midpaced songs, the official sequence of TT definitely did not help in that area

I will not tolerate Major Leagues or Newark Wilder hate ITT. What is wrong with you people

PO5: Worst Pavement and Malkmus tracks

I've warmed to Gold Soundz a bit.

contentious list indeed.

i'd agree w black book though. woof.

Stephen Malkmus >>> TT

^ deffo

question for the old heads: were "My First Mine" & "My Radio" on Westing originally from Drag City comps?

"My Radio" came out on this comp, but it wasn't a Drag City one

"My First Mine", iirc, was from some British magazine flexi

ah nice. thanks!

xp note: "My Radio" was put out on former ILXor Mike McGonigal's excellent Zine Chemical Imbalance.

"My First Mine" came out on this flexi:
https://www.discogs.com/Fluff-3-Pavement-Us-My-First-Mine/release/1558792

I have that flexi, found it in a charity shop years ago

Thanks for filling in the rest of the info, I was impressed enough with myself remembering the Chemical Imbalance comp! Had no idea an ILXor was involved.

Newark wilder is the best song on crcr

Definitely a highlight

On some days I concur with brimstead on this

Never realized - until now - the debt that the "Half a Canyon" outro owes to Swell Maps' "Full Moon in My Pocket"... particularly the "Full Moon (Reprise)." That is all.

shit baby

Why do these guys tour/play Europe (only)? Are there really more Pavement fans there than the US?

I'm hoping a US tour will follow. To be fair, they haven't toured anywhere since 2010, have they?

Not toured, but I think they've played (or at least scheduled) a few Euro fests. Hopefully a US tour is TBA, yeah.

They toured all over 10 years ago and haven't done any shows since.

My guess is they will do some US dates either next summer or maybe spring/summer 2023.

Remember, those NYC shows 10 years ago were announced first (4 nights I believe) and a bunch of people bought tickets

A few weeks later *then* the US tour was announced

Primavera has been on the books since a little before pre COVID

If I recall correctly, they said when they originally announced Primavera 18+ months ago that further touring was coming in 2021. No question they'll tour America in 2022. This is just a normal first leg announcement.

With that said, I'm tempted to fly over for a London vaca around that four-night stand. Wish I could feel assured of a different set of songs every night, but that seems unlikely given the circumstances. Four nights of 15 of the same songs plus switching in and out another 7 or whatever is less appealing.

£50! is that normal these days & i'm just old? oh well, plumped for the last night of the london shows.

They added another Dublin date such was the demand. Got a ticket for their second show -60 euro

Songkick.com lists a few SF dates in 2022 (Sept. 12, 13, and 14, at the Masonic); but they’re not on the official tour page, and a Mon.–Wed. hometown run sounds unlikely. Maybe a weird glitch?

Interestingly, Primavera Sound Los Angeles (2022) is Fri, 9/16 – Sun, 9/18 (a friend has a “theory” they’ll play that fest). The dates do line up…

That'd be great if Pavement's at PS LA. Makes sense given their first shows back will be at Primavera Sound in Barcelona.

The dates are up: https://pavementband.com/#tour

https://pitchfork.com/news/pavement-announce-slanted-and-enchanted-30th-anniversary-reissue/

Anyone ever hear the two non-LP songs on the cassette – “Pain Smiles” and “Pillowjack”?

(I mean, anyone here)

Maybe they should just wait until the 100th anniversary and include everything. Please and thank you.

Never heard or heard of 'em. Getting time-vertigo considering that twice as much time has elapsed between this and Luxe & Reduxe (which is what introduced me to the band!), than between L&R and the original album.

As with Pixies, I never got these guys. I think I was just a little too old to catch the moment.

xpost, email from Matador's publicist says this:

"This is an early version of the finished album with a different running order and a handful of alternate track titles."

i take that to mean that there are no new songs on the cassette.