And it's weird that Dave was ragging on computer music at the Grammys when he was stanning hard for the Prodigy in the mid-90s.
Grohl wasn't complaining about electronic music but quantizing/pitch correction/endless comping in the studio IIRC.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 8 February 2021 04:49 (three years ago) link
ah, right.
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Monday, 8 February 2021 08:12 (three years ago) link
“We just wanna get back to the sound of six guys in a van, jamming”
― We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 February 2021 10:49 (three years ago) link
jean-claude van jamme
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 8 February 2021 13:50 (three years ago) link
I'm not sure you could comfortably jam those six guys in a van. That's why Taylor rides strapped to the roof.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 February 2021 14:04 (three years ago) link
Hard work is not a very stereotypically rocking trait, and yet the Foos have averaged a new album every three years
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 8 February 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link
Downright exhausting.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 February 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link
tbf it takes them a significant amount of time just to get in & out of the van
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 8 February 2021 14:50 (three years ago) link
Grohl schedule: vacation, vacation, vacation, tv appearance, tv appearance, tour, documentary talking head gig, vacation, tv appearance, rock and roll hall of fame induction, vacation, week writing songs, couple of weeks in the studio, vacation, tv appearance, Thanksgiving, vacation, Grammys.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 February 2021 14:52 (three years ago) link
There is nowhere near enough "documentary talking head gig" entries on that list.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 February 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link
He films them all in one go.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 February 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link
pretty high batting average there - that's an average of one hook every 3 months *kid at pc thumbs up.gif*
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 8 February 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link
I mean, whatever, I couldn't care less about defending Grohl, but that Pitchfork review is an example of when I'd rather see them use their lead review slot for something worth championing instead of the bravery in taking potshots at these dudes in 2021 of all things.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 February 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
lol Brad
― We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 February 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link
And it's weird that Dave was ragging on computer music at the Grammys when he was stanning hard for the Prodigy in the mid-90s.Grohl wasn't complaining about electronic music but quantizing/pitch correction/endless comping in the studio IIRC.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, February 7, 2021 10:49 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
he's actually right about this for the most part, as it relates to rock music
I mean, it's the Foo Fighters, I can't set getting upset about it either way
partially related, I get kinda prick vibes from AC Newman
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 February 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
yeah this was some real lazy shit
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Monday, 8 February 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link
totally agreed, no one who is buying a foo fighters record is reading pitchfork and no one still reading pitchfork is going to buy a foo fighters record
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 February 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link
What did AC Newman say about the Foos?
― peace, man, Monday, 8 February 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
I mean, I see what he said, but what was the pic?
It was a pic of the foos sitting on/in a van, presumably from the linked article
― babe for the weekend (morrisp), Monday, 8 February 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, February 8, 2021 12:49 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
On the other hand young people discovering pitchfork these days are going to know it as a music focused lifestyle mag, not as much underground indie tastemakers. Foo Fighters are pop stars just like anyone else ...but I guess it does feel like reviewing a new Phish album or something.
On top of that there is basically no dividing line between "indie" and "radio pop" fandoms these days. The snobs used to judge you for listening to "mainstream" music- now you're going to be judged for dismissing it.
― Evan, Monday, 8 February 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link
Sam Sodomsky's Phish reviews are very good, though. And I think this Foo Fighters review (not by Sodomsky) has some good lines, and ends extremely strong:
On the other side of every Foo Fighters song is a darker, wilder, more interesting world that Grohl has cordoned off out of self-preservation. Instead, he writes music out of a sense of duty and fear, knowing that choosing the wrong path could end the healthy, inspiring enterprise he has worked tirelessly to create. As the Foo Fighters’ legacy becomes tied with epic and communal live shows steeped in their long and narrow canon, it feels like a bellwether for rock’n’roll itself. Where rock once held limitless sway over pop culture, now the fate of traditional arena rock rests in a band whose music suggests they are terrified of seeing it die, gripping their songs so tight that they are strangling the life out of them. Foo Fighters’ greatest achievement, “Everlong,” still outshines every other song in their catalog, because it is their guiding principle: to remain in perpetual motion, to never stop feeling this good, to sing along with you forever. But everything dies, baby, that’s a fact.
― babe for the weekend (morrisp), Monday, 8 February 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link
well written but i really can't stand equating the health of rock music with the new foo fighters or jack white record
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 February 2021 19:30 (three years ago) link
I read it as the health of the Foo Fighters brand
― Evan, Monday, 8 February 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link
well, it's "the fate of traditional arena rock," and seems like a fair observation(?)
― babe for the weekend (morrisp), Monday, 8 February 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link
(I guess it does say "rock'n'roll itself" before that)
true
― Evan, Monday, 8 February 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link
The one time I saw the Foo Fighters live it certainly felt "communal" but it was far from "epic." If I had to sum up its vibe in a single word, I would say it felt "contractual."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 February 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link
I've seen them twice, once opening for the Chili Peppers in 2000 and again in 2005 for the Foozer tour with Weezer. I thought they were much better in 2000 but clearly more interested in being "fun" by 2005.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link
lol Josh
"we just wanted to get back to basics - five guys, in a room, under contract"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
I saw them twice at E3 parties, they were good for that type of event
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link
I know lots of people forgive the Foos because Grohl is a nice guy, but I forgive the Foos continued existence because it makes me happy that Pat Smear ended up with such a payday.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link
yeah that is cool
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link
I am all about Pat Smear gettin’ paid
― We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 February 2021 22:22 (three years ago) link
Watching the band perform on the Inaugeration thing, my wife & I made the obligatory "can you believe it?" Pat Smear remark
― babe for the weekend (morrisp), Monday, 8 February 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link
For someone who likes best of you but has basically avoided these guys but is curious, what are five undeniably great ff songs? Read a piece on prince who said he thought they could really do justice to his rock material so I guess there has to be something there.
― candyman, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 09:22 (three years ago) link
my five fave Foos jams:
AuroraEverlongGeneratorExhaustedAlone + Easy Target
I think the first three albums are pretty great, but I can definitely agree with what the reviewer above says about there being a wild, dark and unpredictable world that Dave is consciously cordoning off. I don't think it takes much imagination to figure out why, but Foos are the very antithesis of "dangerous".
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 10:21 (three years ago) link
Also most of the five tunes I chose above are pretty unabashedly power-pop ballads. I think Dave is pretty great at writing those, being steeped and schooled in classic rock trope and cliche. At his best he revitalises those tropes and cliches, but I can't remember the last Foos album that wasn't a couple of inspired highlights and a lot of tracks that simply don't need to exist.
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 10:22 (three years ago) link
Thanks. I've see them live on TV and always thought they were good but left it at that. I imagine their greatest hits comp (is there any point to those anymore?) would be the perfect ff album.
― candyman, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:02 (three years ago) link
I guess so - but I'm a fan of the album tracks on the first three.
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:08 (three years ago) link
Their greatest hits comp notably omits I'll Stick Around, which is irritating.
― peace, man, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:26 (three years ago) link
(the omission, not the song)
― peace, man, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 11:27 (three years ago) link
On the other side of every Foo Fighters song is a darker, wilder, more interesting world that Grohl has cordoned off out of self-preservation. Instead, he writes music out of a sense of duty and fear
see no this is exactly the kind of bullshit I was talking about. you don't actually know why dave grohl writes music and claiming you do makes me think you're full of shit.
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 12:37 (three years ago) link
"nobody can read anybody's minds so no-one should hazard a guess why anyone does things" is an interesting take on a website where users claim to know the reasons and secret impulses of others on a daily, hourly, minutely basis
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 12:40 (three years ago) link
"hazarding a guess" oh is that what he's doing there
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 12:43 (three years ago) link
On the other side of every Larson review is a funnier, truer, more insightful world that Larson has cordoned off out of insecurity. Instead, he writes music reviews out of a sense of duty and fear.
wow such insight
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 12:44 (three years ago) link
Dave keeps rock alive, whoever that is keeps rock journalism alive. Why, we will never know.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 12:49 (three years ago) link
it's 2021 simon i don't really have the time to explain music journalism to you
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 12:51 (three years ago) link
that's just duty and fear talking
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 12:57 (three years ago) link
pathway to the Dark Side iirc
― honk honk honkin' on Bobo's door (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 13:16 (three years ago) link