Stars of the Lid

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Not sure, but it does seem like A Stable Reference to something.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 4 February 2021 08:40 (three years ago) link

The second best joke in the thread!

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 4 February 2021 09:56 (three years ago) link

I'll take it :)

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 4 February 2021 11:32 (three years ago) link

maybe she'd like CS + Kreme's Snoopy?

rob, Thursday, 4 February 2021 13:39 (three years ago) link

I enjoy the first two AWVFTS albums and like their subsequent stuff just fine, though nothing as transcendent as the high bar of Stars of the Lid. Have not listened to anything from new album yet.

I just listened to Aix Em Klemm for the first time in a long time, just the other day. Agree re the first track, which is also why some of the early Labradford albums are hit-and-miss for me.

Am I wrong or does Labradford only do the high-pitch thing on Mi Media Naranja? It's in multiple tracks on that album but I don't recall it on their other albums.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 4 February 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

Not to cut across what is one of the finest jokes I've ever seen but this has bugged me for a bit: are Labradford named after the basketball player or is it something more obvious/arcane?

― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:33 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

my assumption is it is a take on the band name "La Düsseldorf".

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 February 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link

referencing the town in west yorkshire, beloved of american people everywhere

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 February 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

Courtesy of BandNameOrigins.com:

How did Labradford get their name? Sorry, we don't know how Labradford got their name.

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 February 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link

stars of the leeds xp

would a nit be nice? (NickB), Thursday, 4 February 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

A Wakefield Victory for the Sullen.

Sigh. It was the best I could do.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 4 February 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

thought that was pretty good.

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 February 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

Am I wrong or does Labradford only do the high-pitch thing on Mi Media Naranja? It's in multiple tracks on that album but I don't recall it on their other albums.

At least Fixed::Context has the high pitched sounds appearing.

jvc, Thursday, 4 February 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

I think the new one is lovely.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

that is, Invisible Cities. I imagine it would work quite well for its original purpose, too.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

From a FB post today. Maybe there will be another album one day:

Once upon a time if you wanted to go away for a while it might have been easier to disappear without being swallowed by the internet.
Lately, there has been a myriad nefarious activity (vacuous sounds uploaded digitally & unauthorised physical product) that it behooved oneself to trademark the Stars Of The Lid moniker. Part of this new endeavour is an official merchandise store Hello Merch We are slowly digging into the archives and re-printing former tour-shirts from ages long ago, starting with these two visible in this post (More arriving in time for Christmas) And in our gruesome passive-aggressive way, eventually some new music, unless the world ends next week, which seems plausible at this point…

Order: https://www.hellomerch.com/collections/stars-of-the-lid
Order: https://www.hellomerch.com/collections/adam-wiltzie

groovypanda, Thursday, 19 August 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link

I saw that post and totally skipped over the part at the end because I thought it was just about march, damn I'll take any glimmer of hope for new music from them

bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Thursday, 19 August 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link

And one of them is already sold out completely. Jesus, you really do just have to jump on everything IMMEDIATELY these days to even have a chance. Good for them, this bodes well for more shirts and merch down the road.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 August 2021 00:28 (two years ago) link

!!!!!!!

legit just did a little yelp.

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Saturday, 21 August 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

https://www.facebook.com/100050668261250/posts/518163743215897/

nice remembrance of making Ballasted Orchestra, for its 25th anniversary. not even attached to a reissue or anything.

brisk money (lukas), Thursday, 10 March 2022 14:24 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I was watching a recent French spy drama. The protagonist had completely screwed the pooch - he'd misjudged a situation, his agent had been captured, total disaster. His response, almost instantly, was to trash his apartment. I sat there watching thinking "I would never do that". In that situation all my anger would be turned inward, to curdle into shame. It would never have occurred to me to direct it outwards like that. My therapist made the point that the anger is going to go somewhere. She often tries to connect me to a healthy, self-protective, outward-directed anger.

Luckily for me, anytime I need to do that I just need to visit the RYM page for Gravitational Pull vs The Desire for An Aquatic Life, so I can read Threntall's review: "Cool, warm and enveloping drones. Very much what the rest of their more famous discography sounds like. Not really good enough to standout, but certainly enjoyable and relaxing to listen to."

brisk money (lukas), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 05:19 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

New AWVFTS single? Why thank you.

https://awvfts.bandcamp.com/album/all-our-friends-are-vampires

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link

god DAMMIT sotl you’re killing me! Aaaaaagh oooh nooo *dead*

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 01:09 (one year ago) link

xpost

Doh how did I do that. Hmm.

Anyway this stood out to me, possibly cause I read this thread backwards and that newish post about dealing with anger was in my mind.

McBride: I like late at night because there’s no distractions. There’s very little chance there’s gonna be dogs barking. You’re not gonna get phone calls. Working on the music, for me, it’s kind of important to not fake it in some ways, to not try to force this emotional state out of it, to sort of pay attention to what’s going on in your life, if you’re feeling inspired or motivated just letting it happen. Especially after you’ve released a bunch of records for a long time, you don’t want to manufacture longing.


There are times when I’m listening to music on shuffle and one of their pieces comes on, it dawns on me that it’s resonating with a ‘higher’ mental state. Something like equanimity or maybe even serenity.

I’ve given up on meditation, now I just have occasional moments of equanimity when SotL comes up on shuffle.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 01:27 (one year ago) link

Anyway that link is dead, here’s the live (lid) one:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/how-stars-of-the-lid-made-two-ambient-masterworks-63198/

And what’s a good starting point for AWVFTS? Any consensus there?

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 01:30 (one year ago) link

The new Winged Victory single is reliably pretty, but there was something about the merging of McBride and Wiltzie's sensibilities that was of a fundamentally different order - Wiltzie left to his own devices, or with O'Halloran in Winged Victory, tends to the syrupy I find, whereas perhaps McBride scuffed the edges a bit in even the last two SOTL records.. I prefer McBride's solo records, at any rate, and I've long since given up on the idea of new SOTL, despite the rather infuriating tendency that they have to vaguely intimate new music every few years or so.

JonR345, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 02:32 (one year ago) link

And what’s a good starting point for AWVFTS? Any consensus there?

― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, March 15, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Start with the first album and go chronologically until you start to get bored. They’re good but they lack the secret sauce of SotL.

…and as much as I like Wiltzie I think McBride is that secret sauce, as evidenced by his first solo album which I rate nearly as high as the last to Stars albums.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:21 (one year ago) link

I love the first album. "Steep Hills of Vicodin Tears" was on my nighttime playlist for years.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:22 (one year ago) link

yeah, i've enjoyed their separate efforts quite a bit. i wish i could listen to them without knowing about stars of the lid. but SotL was and is so very special. i think upthread is a spot where i got to see them live. it was just brilliant, one of the top few hours of my life

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:23 (one year ago) link

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Seems we are mostly in consensus. I too appreciate that little bit of a sharp rough tang that gives their work as a duo just that hint of seasoning.

Based on y’all’s recommendations I’ll put McBride’s first solo release on my list. That would be When The Detail Lost Its Freedom, published under his own name? Still trying to get all the names of their different acts sorted — Dead Texan is also a Wiltzie project, okay I’m starting to piece together the clues here.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:33 (one year ago) link

Lmao wish I could say witnessing a musical performance was a peak life experience. That time I was really high when I was in high school and Primus played my hometown? Nah probably not. I did very much vibe with Sonic Youth at Lollapalooza in Atlanta. Okay sorry tangent.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:35 (one year ago) link

Yes, When the Detail…

McBride hasn’t had as many side projects. His two solo albums are pretty much it. He was in a group called Bell Gardens (I think?) but iirc they’re not really the same. Wiltzie by far the more prolific of the two.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:35 (one year ago) link

Until I read this thread, I had no idea that AWVFTS had anything to do with Stars of the Lid. For some reason, I never paid attention to who the musicians were.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:43 (one year ago) link

Cheers to pfwp for clarification.

Respect always to Jimbeaux too, dissenting view on AWVFTS duly noted. Steep Hills of Vicodin Tears is passable, If you’d told me it was a newer SotL release I doubt I’d know the difference. It definitely follows the typical formula, the simple melody gradually building to a muted crescendo. It just lacks that special something tho.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:45 (one year ago) link

I will say, for AWVFTS - I *love* Dustin O’Halloran’s theme for the tv show Transparent

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:52 (one year ago) link

I did say it was part of my nighttime playlist LOL. Literally the one I used to go to sleep. It was perfect for that purpose, and that's not a knock.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:52 (one year ago) link

Right, I have Requiem for Dying Mothers Parts 1 & 2 on my Nap playlist which are the songs with by far the most plays in my entire library.

Still I have to wonder if this poster is okay?

I like to play 'Requiem for Dying Mothers Part 2' from 'Tired Sounds....' on a 24/7 loop


― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 2 November 2014 23:06

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 09:20 (one year ago) link

I love SotL, as everyone should, but WVFtS bores me to tears, for many of the reasons stated above. Seeing them live early on definitely did not change my mind

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 10:57 (one year ago) link

have never dived into WVftS and this conversation is not exactly lighting a fire under me. But When the Detail Lost its Freedom is A+++, I definitely love it as much as the SotL records, though I think of it as pretty different (at least within the paradigm of this type of music, I'm sure they'd be indistiguishable to someone pulled off the street)

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 12:27 (one year ago) link

I really love the album that Wiltzie made with Robert Donne from Labradford under the name Aix em Klemm— I think it’s Wiltzie’s best work outside of SotL.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link

yep, that one's great!

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link

I still believe that The Dead Texan record is the best non-SotL record by a SotL member.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Why, this is good to see

https://starsofthelid.bandcamp.com/album/avec-laudenum

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 June 2023 00:29 (ten months ago) link

welll, that was a mightily cruel thread bump :) we're never seeing a new album, are we?

JonR345, Saturday, 17 June 2023 01:35 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

Pitchfork is reporting that Brian McBride has died. Terrible news.

https://pitchfork.com/news/stars-of-the-lids-brian-mcbride-dies-at-53/

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:58 (seven months ago) link

fuck

REST IN PEACE BRIAN MCBRIDE [1970-2023] pic.twitter.com/fvSSeRL6pi

— krankyltd (@krankyltd) August 27, 2023

Murgatroid, Sunday, 27 August 2023 15:59 (seven months ago) link

Oh my fucking god :(

Snoopy is a cat, who lives in a cage (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:00 (seven months ago) link

Awful news

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:02 (seven months ago) link

Horrible, horrible.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:09 (seven months ago) link

His solo work is also whew, so good. I love this album.

https://starsofthelid.bandcamp.com/album/when-the-detail-lost-its-freedom

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 27 August 2023 16:10 (seven months ago) link


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