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if he'd have revealed all this in the leadership election then RLB might have won. I'm not naive enough to be shocked that a pol cheats and lies to get ahead in the manner Kieth has, but some lesson needs to be learned here but unfortunately maybe a lesson for 10-20 years into the future.

calzino, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:40 (three years ago) link

tbf you can't expect members of a political party to ask probing questions and hold candidates for office to scrutiny

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:47 (three years ago) link

in the future people that sneer at members as "purists" when they question the suitability of candidates to run for the leadership, then these cunts need to be shot dead on sight!

calzino, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:53 (three years ago) link

Perhaps i'm being overly generous but i think there's a decent chance Starmer is a rudderless, panicking coward desperately grasping at any straws he can rather than a committed flag-fucker. The fact that we're hearing about this at all suggests there's disagreement in the group he has built around him but, equally, that the hard-right element is in the ascendancy. The watered down presentation for MPs is an interesting touch. I can see this sitting badly with a lot of them.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:54 (three years ago) link

I don't think he's a committed flag-fucker either, it's a harder than it looks to fake it.

calzino, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:55 (three years ago) link

especially to such a wooden performer as Kieth

calzino, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link

Starmer isn’t a committed flag-fucker but it really doesn’t matter what his own beliefs are if they have his ear and are guiding policy

wangdalf the blight (gyac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link

Yeah less a flagfucker than an ineffectual cowardly melt with no personal convictions, fair play to the lad

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 10:05 (three years ago) link

he's killed my enthusiasm so much for parliamentary democracy for the rest of my life. I won't even give a shit about where the leadership challenge comes from, because it won't be from Zarah Sultana - that much is certain.

calzino, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 10:13 (three years ago) link

Focus groups, branding, contractors, consultants...is a hard-coded mindset and there isn't going to be any way into the new until this stuff is binned or massively reduced.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 10:31 (three years ago) link

Yes. Guillotined, if you will.

I know it's the nature of these threads to fondly consider Year Zeroing the Labour Party or despairing at its unsalvageability but this is never gonna happen is it? The Party is too entrenched in the culture of the status quo and I see no realistic way out.

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 10:44 (three years ago) link

it's such a shame that the conspiracy theory about Momentum deselecting Labour MPs and installing their own candidates was bollocks, imagine having 60 or 80 decent Labour MPs instead of 12 or so.

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 10:48 (three years ago) link

Corbyn's offer of hope within the LP might prove to be a 5 year sidetrack for reconstructive politics

Can't even decide on a single suitable word for intersectional postmarxian politics that wants radical economic change

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 10:49 (three years ago) link

Funny how quickly Occupy failed in the UK. Momentum's biggest problem is that it exists inside the LP

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 10:50 (three years ago) link

We all laughed at Chuka and his pals but the LP under Starmer has basically become Don't Change UK

would a nit be nice? (NickB), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 10:56 (three years ago) link

Among the top recommendations is: “The use of the flag, veterans, dressing smartly at the war memorial etc give voters a sense of authentic values alignment.”

can't believe this one weird trick is what will give Labour the extra 3M votes it needs

nashwan, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 10:58 (three years ago) link

dressing smartly at the war memorial

My favourite Smog track

nashwan, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 10:59 (three years ago) link

Bloody lovely coat that

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COs_bNuWcAAAVaT.jpg

kicked off mumsnet for speaking my mind (Matt #2), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 11:40 (three years ago) link

lol nash

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 11:48 (three years ago) link

lol the best thing is the jaded bored-as-shit tone of it: "“The use of the flag, veterans, dressing smartly at the war memorial etc" yeah the flag, old war guys, all that bollocks,

ukania west (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 11:50 (three years ago) link

Guess the plan to try and recruit Captain Tom has gone out the window lol

ukania west (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 11:51 (three years ago) link

It's a very handy guide for any Conservative HQ types looking to strangle this thing at birth, you've got to admit. Love this Labour apparatchik trick of loudly thinking aloud, showing all their working and hoping no one will notice or take any steps to try and stop them.

(Hello everyone, I've been trying to be less online in general since the US election but the events of the last week or so have just been too enraging not to comment on. The less said about the Facebook ad the better).

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 11:58 (three years ago) link

hope you're well mdc, have missed you round these parts

would a nit be nice? (NickB), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 12:03 (three years ago) link

(I'm fine, just busy with a few other things and trying to have fewer distractions more generally).

I'm sure I've said this before but a by-election scare in a metropolitan seat or student town would be pretty handy right now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 12:11 (three years ago) link

Yay good to see you Matt kudos to the apparatchiks for dragging you back

Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 12:17 (three years ago) link

Bloody lovely coat that

🖼


It really was! It was a new wool Jaeger coat that his wife bought and spent a decent bit of money on, it’s a nice looking short wool coat ffs

wangdalf the blight (gyac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 12:32 (three years ago) link

(Great to see you Matt, hope all is well)

wangdalf the blight (gyac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 12:32 (three years ago) link

Love that coat.

Welcome back Matt!

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 12:39 (three years ago) link

Labour has told its community organising unit, introduced under Corbyn, that their contracts will not be renewed from May.

Another key moment in Keir Starmer's battle to transform the party and remove Corybnistas from HQ

And a lot of anger to have done it during the pandemic

— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) February 3, 2021

wangdalf the blight (gyac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link

thank fuck we're not in the middle of an unprecedented crisis in public health, housing, poverty, education and basic everyday nutrition where effective community organising would be a literally life-or-death proposition

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link

dress smartly at your vaccination

As a journalist you are supposed to be tough and battle-hardened but I don't mind admitting I kept welling up seeing old men lining up to be vaccinated in their Sunday best suits and hearing the relief and gratitude of people who hadn't left the house since March.

— Helen Pidd (@helenpidd) January 31, 2021

nashwan, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:09 (three years ago) link

Hi Matt its ok to admit its spurs has you fucked off imo

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:11 (three years ago) link

Lol was going to ask Matt what has been so enraging about the last week every week is bad.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:14 (three years ago) link

Passing 100K deaths and the papers just going awwwww at Johnson's sorry sadness in his eyes was a new seething rage pinnacle tbf

nashwan, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:16 (three years ago) link

that helen pidd tweet nashwan posted is bad enough but ffs at the one it's following up

Why is Newcastle better than pretty much everywhere else at vaccinating people against Covid-19? It might have something to do with the guy in charge being an Army veteran who planned the medical response to both the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions https://t.co/JLlY6FCuBV

— Helen Pidd (@helenpidd) January 31, 2021

is there anything our brave boys can't do? vaccinations, fatal hazing rituals, war crimes, the lot!

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:21 (three years ago) link

re: community organising unit getting canned has been coming for a while...

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:21 (three years ago) link

8000 more in the 6 days since xxp

The Man DeLorean (onimo), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:28 (three years ago) link

This country would welcome a military coup

mahb, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link

ahahaha got 'im agaaaain

The Royal family have been “a beacon of hope for millions,” says Keir Starmer’s spokesman, who denies the Labour leader would prefer an elected head of state.

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) February 3, 2021

nashwan, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link

keir starmer, a beacon of nope

would a nit be nice? (NickB), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:57 (three years ago) link

PM confirms national clap for Captain Tom at tonight at 6

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) February 3, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:57 (three years ago) link

Millions now living will hope to be kings.

The Man DeLorean (onimo), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 13:59 (three years ago) link

"I don't believe in gestures"

nashwan, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link

Am i supposed to believe there’s no video of this

Witness says Starmer had to be 'pulled away' by another Labour MP https://t.co/FMPv8DA36S

— Jason Groves (@JasonGroves1) February 3, 2021

wangdalf the blight (gyac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:06 (three years ago) link

the people demand to know who pulled off kieth

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

It's taken me a while but I now fully understand and endorse calz's murderous (not really) hatred for this cunt Starmer.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link

So apparently he confronted Boris over Boris saying he previously supported the UK staying in the European Medicines Agency (which he did), a MP got their phone out to prove it, SKSQC had to be dragged away by one of the Labour whips. Embarrassing, he wasn’t even right!

wangdalf the blight (gyac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:12 (three years ago) link

that's some proper deranged behaviour, dude is clearly shook

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link

Ace Attorney comparisons just getting more accurate over time tbh

wangdalf the blight (gyac), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link

imagine having to try and keep a straight face while sir kermit squeaked out a challenge to physical combat

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:19 (three years ago) link


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