I link Four-Calendar Cafe inextricably with December 1993, when I had it in heavy rotation and we decorated our apartment with mountains of Christmas lights, which had of late become extremely cheap and colorful.
― fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Monday, 1 February 2021 05:10 (three years ago) link
My Cocteaus fandom is a bit like BradNelson's approach to music, whichever one I am listening to at the time is the best ever made.But Garlands is special to me, it was hard to find back in 80s Australia and felt like my first "deep" album purchase.
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 1 February 2021 05:11 (three years ago) link
Ok after re-listening to both albums this morning, I can confirm that Four-Calendar Cafe is every bit as good as Heaven or Las Vegas, which I suppose is my biggest Cocteaus-related challop. xp I feel you with those Christmas lights; this music is a perfect soundtrack to the blizzard that's raging here in NYC right now. Such powerful Winter Wonderland vibes
― J. Sam, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
I want to have Cocteau Fever at that intensity, I really do. But Heaven or Las Vegas is pretty much flawless (like almost everything they releases in the 1980s, it seems)
― Karl Malone, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
altho it itself is a 1990 releaseI’m not even going to rise to the 4CC challop
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:57 (three years ago) link
i'm still new here and this is probably not 100% true, but i think it's very possible that Heaven or Las Vegas actually ENDED the 1980s. i mean, it was already 1990, true, but Heaven perfected the entire decade of the 1980s, showing that there was no point in going down that path, especially because of all the 90s calendars that had been already been printed
― Karl Malone, Monday, 1 February 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
Four of them, even
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 1 February 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link
Zach that is a pretty useful conceit, although it came out later in 1990 as I recall. What a joy it was to get home from the record shop and cue that album up. Same year as MBV's Tremolo I think, it was pretty clear this was forever music.
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 1 February 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link
'4CC' and 'Milk & Kisses' are fantastic. 'Calfskin Smack,' 'Treasure Hiding,' 'Know Who You Are At Every Age,' 'Squeeze-Wax' *chef's kiss*
― KevRus, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 23:37 (three years ago) link
Tremolo was early 91. Trust me, I know.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 23:55 (three years ago) link
Glider, 1990, yes.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link
hope yr getting your (gulp) 30th anniversary piece ready ned!
― would a nit be nice? (NickB), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 23:58 (three years ago) link
xxp lol Ned
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 23:58 (three years ago) link
HoLV was Sep 17 '90, Tremolo was Feb 4 '91 (30y tomorrow!). I also don't have to look these dates up, seems like every Monday morning I was in a record shop back then ;)
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
Trust me, I know.― Ned Raggett
― Ned Raggett
i am going on hunger strike until this exact text is the new board description.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link
"The Ark of the Covenant""Are you sure?""Pretty sure"
― fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link
man i'm hungry
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:50 (three years ago) link
fucken starvin
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 1 May 2021 06:41 (two years ago) link
sugar hiccup bah cheerios
― brimstead, Saturday, 1 May 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
I mentioned this on another thread but I scored a set of the 80s singles recently and they sound SO MUCH BETTER than lullabies to violaine omg. It’s nice when you turn up a CD and actually hear more detail and not just ear bleeding mush.
― brimstead, Saturday, 1 May 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link
u mean the 10CD box? god I love that thing
― "Gaspar? No way." (sleeve), Saturday, 1 May 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link
brims—
we have the original uk cd version of head over heels + sunburst and snowblind and yes: dynamics! i know some people complain about some of those albums being too shrill on the cd mastering, but i never understood the mindset that louder = better.
something something loudness wars.
also i didn't eat breakfast this morning.
again.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 1 May 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
Chris Ott wrote like 1200 words about the mastering on these things for Pitchfork when they were reissued.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 13 May 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link
IRONIC
wait, what
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Friday, 14 May 2021 00:49 (two years ago) link
Listened to Need-Fire today, don't forget about Need-Fire guys.
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 14 May 2021 00:51 (two years ago) link
A little fun trivia just now on Twitter
I can’t be sure but think this was the 1st time Quisquose ~a song we wrote in 1985 for the Aikea-Guinea EP~ has ever been heard on the BBC in its 36 years. What is unique about this is that Robin & I both played 6 string basses, me an Ibanez he a Fender https://t.co/TYYIq5y2PC— mrsimonraymonde (@mrsimonraymonde) June 9, 2021
https://twitter.com/mrsimonraymonde/status/1402459951478476801
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link
Whoops, don't know why the second one didn't take
Ah okay he replaced it with an edit:
Remember we were certain as we were writing /recording that it must be the first song ever to be written on two six string basses. I have no evidence on this either way, then or now, but we believed it and I think that gave the tune a little extra- thanks @johngrantmusic— mrsimonraymonde (@mrsimonraymonde) June 9, 2021
surely a few Cure songs circa Faith and Disintegration?
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 06:58 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YDumxXzYPA
― Maresn3st, Monday, 21 June 2021 11:50 (two years ago) link
Miley Cyrus covered Heaven or Las Vegas on Saturday. Slightly spoiled by feeling like she had intolerant fans breathing down her neck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2he5Q2Tsn4
― Alba, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link
not bad!
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link
that's so sad that she doesn't think any of her fans know that song!
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link
man, she should stop touring. why do it? why not just play a packed club show of 250 people and have a good time? did she lose all her money or something?
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link
why don't all other huge bands do this too? it's crazy to me. it's not even a pad thing for PR - some reporter will cover it as the secret gig that the band's confidence or something, and also you get to make up a funny joke as the name of the fake band
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
Smiley Iris
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
The fans at a packed club show might be as entitled, and intolerant of cover versions as a bigger crowd.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
but maybe next time stop apologizing halfway through your decent cover version, not real flattering to the Cocteaus
― mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link
I thought her whole stance was "defiant iconoclast against populist expectations", she needs to take some lessons in stagecraft from Van Morrison.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
maybe it someone in the band's idea to cover that, or the manager or something? if you look at the clip in that way, the "none of you know this song" and "don't worry, it'll be over in a minute" are more like her yelling at the manager onstage, like "see i told you no ones like the fucking cocteau duo"
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link
my brain is still reverberating from "heaven or Las VEYYYgas"
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link
Agree, would kill for a clean version of this. Goosebumps anyway - she is peerless I think. I go back quite often to her version of Say Hello to Heaven from the Chris Cornell tribute.
― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link
Seriously. Why bother doing a cover if you're gonna spend most of your time apologizing and talking through it ? If you love the song just own it.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link
it's rockism that I posted this video in the Miley thread to crickets when I shoulda posted it in here
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link
hell yeah, cocteau twins forever
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 00:10 (two years ago) link
if you're gonna post in here, prepare to get engulfed in a sea of gentle angelic swooning
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link
aka the REAL music
She didnt even bother working out what the words areShe apologised and told her own fans theyve never heard of these guys
Fuck. her.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 05:54 (two years ago) link
tbf asking anyone to know the exact lyrics of a Cocteau Twins song feels like a minor feat
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 7 July 2021 07:01 (two years ago) link