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I imagine after Chameleon this probably sounded like fuckin' King Crimson's Red in comparison, which helps

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:44 (three years ago) link

ahh now Time of the Oath, now THIS is ace. this is how to remake a band that's dealing with several personnel changes, particularly a new vocalist.

it sounds quite a bit like their later material but nowhere near as overproduced and the choruses are really good, and the guitar is still punchy and fist pumpy, not mindless "chug a chug chug a chug ok here's the chorus, one held chord for every measure"

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

"Skyfall" is out, and it's a ripper. Classic Helloween, and it's so great to hear Kai and Michael again. The new album is really, really good, but this track, which has been pretty heavily edited, is Kai's one songwriting contribution. He made it count.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLV530n3kMw

A. Begrand, Friday, 2 April 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

From what I read Kai always seemed a bit reticent about why he left the band and the other members said they never understood it. Did he ever make it totally clear?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 2 April 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link

I've never heard the exact reasons for his departure either. They were all so young back then and had a lot of growing up to do. They're a lot more easygoing now. Turning 50 will do that to a guy!

A. Begrand, Saturday, 3 April 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

this is my most anticipated album of the year, which feels weird to say. after so much of the pedestrian Deris era (which has some good stuff, but not a huge amount), it's nice to hear them actually playing power metal with riffs and so nice to hear Kiske again.

i hope I'm not disappointed "Skyfall" (and "Pumpkins United", which I know is not on this album but was kinda the first 'reunion' song) destroyed, I wasn't feeling the second single as much even though I liked it.

actually never wanted to see them live as I never liked how Deris sang Kiske's songs and half the setlist would be 'meh' but now it might be a fun fucking idea.

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link

it's not a perfect album but this may hit my top ten list, and if not that, top twenty. i can barely stomach a lot of the Deris albums, and this one is full of hooks and good guitar work, and man how does Kiske still sound this good. his low notes actually sound better.

also love Kai's harsh vocals.

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 June 2021 22:34 (two years ago) link

glad to hear more of those harmonized lead runs which have been missing forever from their sound

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 June 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link

weirdly some of this reminds me of the first few Angra albums

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 June 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link

alright after many many listens I still love this and it's currently in my top 5 for the year.

It's not Keeper-era Helloween, which was a bit more raw and fist-pumpy, but it does have the same ancestral DNA. The hooks are a bit poppier, but not in the annoying way a lot of the Deris era has been (almost 'pop-punk' power metal).

Obviously, the return of Kiske and Hansen help, but neither of these had a significant effect on the songwriting, sans "Skyfall". Deris wrote a lot of the songs, as well as Weikath, Gerstner, and Grosskopf - basically the same songwriting core as the last few albums. but the material does 'feel' more like classic Helloween, though it does have a few elements of other European bands they inspired (like aforementioned Angra).

also yes, Kiske's voice on the material helps because Deris just doesn't fit Helloween at all to me; he's a hair-metal vocalist who sounds like a fish out of water. but he really is second-fiddle here, like he does sing lead, but he often shares it with Kiske, he harmonizes a lot, and a lot of his lead spots occur in places where they're well-suited. Kiske carries the material (Hansen does a few vocals here and there, and it's pretty obvious when).

I'm guessing the presence of Kiske and Hansen just made things more exciting and that's where the inspiration came from. The hooks are undeniable on almost every song, and while I'm not usually into feel-good happy sounding metal, Helloween have always scratched that itch for me and then some. it's also weird how good Kiske sounds, his highs are still really smooth, but his low range has really gotten fuckin' resonant as hell - it always was, really, you can hear it on "A Tale That Wasn't Right", but he didn't like to sing down there much in Keeper era.

I've basically been playing all 80s Helloween all week, and hell those first two Deris albums are actually alright!

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 June 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

Is this lineup going to stay or is it just a one-time thing?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

This album purs a great big smile on my face. Especially "Skyfall", an instant classic.

As far as I know, they're going to stuck with the expanded lineup for ss long as it's fun for everybody. Doing the interviews the big thing that came across is how well they get along these days.

A. Begrand, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

US Tour! albeit a short'un!

May 13 - Dallas, TX - The Factory
May 16 - St. Petersburg, FL - Jannus Live
May 18 - Silver Spring, MD - The Fillmore
May 20 - New York, NY - Terminal 5
May 21 - Worcester, MA - The Palladium
May 23 - Toronto, ON - History
May 24 - Royal Oak, MI - Royal Oak Music Hall
May 26 - Chicago, IL - The Riviera
May 27 - Minneapolis, MN - The Fillmore
May 30 - Denver, CO - Ogden Theatre
Jun. 01 - Las Vegas, NV - Brooklyn Bowl
Jun. 02 - Los Angeles, CA - YouTube Theater
Jun. 03 - San Francisco, CA - The Warfield

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link

(next year obv)

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

I WANT OUUUUUUUUUT

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:21 (eleven months ago) link

still can't believe Andi Deris came from a group called Pink Cream 69, or that there are dudes who can be in a band named that without embarassment of their poor life choices.

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:22 (eleven months ago) link

keeper of the 7 keys is a jawn

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:25 (eleven months ago) link

two of my favorites. (I refuse to count the third Keeper album which should never have been made)

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:29 (eleven months ago) link

I still play the Walls of JerichoCD with the EP on it and the first Keepers album, like, a lot.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:30 (eleven months ago) link

yeah Walls featuring Helloween EP is a staple for me too. was just listening to last night actually.

GORGAR WILL EAT YOU

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:33 (eleven months ago) link

I was kinda wondering why the two Keepers were so sonically different, the latter having more of the traditional power metal trappings we come to associate w/ the genre, the first being more speed metally, and...huh, guess Weikath barely played or wrote on Keeper 1, it was all Kai. that'd explain it.

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:36 (eleven months ago) link

Walls of Jericho owns

brimstead, Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:48 (eleven months ago) link

Minutes away from showtime!!!!!

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 00:27 (eleven months ago) link

OH MY FUCKING GOD

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:04 (eleven months ago) link

seeing em this weekend, it’s gonna rule

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 01:47 (eleven months ago) link

I'm so happy

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 03:25 (eleven months ago) link

oh mami

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 21 May 2023 01:42 (ten months ago) link

ur the keeper of the seeeeeven keys

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 May 2023 02:44 (ten months ago) link

eight months pass...

soooooooooooo....anybody know a contact within Helloween outside of just messaging their social media?

they were working with a company named Incendium to make Keeper of the Seven Keys action figures. I bought two - back in 2021. They never showed and they gave shitty excuses and now the company is completely scrubbed from the internet. lots of fans saying how they also got scammed.

I'm only out $80 but seems shitty that the band hasn't addressed it.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link

(not the band themselves, the appropriate people in charge of that stuff)

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link


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