Beer in the new era

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I posted here long ago about a Mikeller beer I found at the 99 Cent store, and while it wasn't bad in the spit it out or make you sick way, it was clearly past its drink-by date. It was one of their single hop IPA series, and I don't remember looking for a bottling date, but I suppose the previous retailer (or Mikeller themselves) realized it was hurting the brand and had it shipped to 99C to get rid of it.

nickn, Saturday, 23 January 2021 08:18 (three years ago) link

It's surprisingly hard to find beer that's not past its sell-by date at some local beer stores around where I live. At one store near me, I would say more than 50% of the beers that have a sell-by date that I checked on a recent visit were past the date. That doesn't inspire me with a lot of confidence to buy the beers that don't have a sell-by date either. You usually have to look pretty closely to find the sell-by (or "best by" date), it's often stamped faintly on the bottle or can itself, so you have to remove it from the box to check. I guess most people don't know or care enough to check.

o. nate, Saturday, 23 January 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link

Aging is 100% dependent upon style.

IPAs (esp. ones made in 2021*) are 100% not made for aging/shelf stability. They should be consumed ideally within a few weeks of purchase. A can (vs. bottle) may extend that life somewhat.

*Big, huge triple+ "IPAs" from the mid-2000s like Dogfish Head 120 have a malt bill and ABV that can withstand some aging, basically it starts to morph from an IPA into an American Barleywine.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 23 January 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link

My parents have been in California for three months helping my sister take care of her kids during the pandemic. They passed through town on their way home and left a case of Pliny here. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 24 January 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link

I just picked up some Other Half collabs with the likes of Monkish, Cellarmaker, Trillium, etc. I've been focusing on sub-8% IPAs lately, but these are pretty good.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Sunday, 24 January 2021 01:08 (three years ago) link

I do like it when some of my all double IPA all the time faves downshift and release something simple or, well, clear, like a pilsner or west coast IPA or other <7-8% offerings.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 January 2021 03:34 (three years ago) link

mango
raspberry
cheesecake

smoothie

sour
ale

Gross.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

"Place all remaining Theme Mango Cheesecake cans in a closed box and place immediately in a secured garbage container or dumpster outside."

... regardless of when you purchased this beer.

nickn, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

ban beer

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

(Before disposing of any cans of Theme Mango Cheesecake, please put on protective gloves and a face shield (or goggles and a mask);

I mean, this part raised my eyebrows more than the secured garbage container.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

Sometimes there is nothing better than a nice lager imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 30 January 2021 00:42 (three years ago) link

I drink them so infrequently (less than I should), but when I do they are like an oasis.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Saturday, 30 January 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link

I thought I was out of the game but then yesterday I spent $112.80 for 4x Pliny The Younger 510ml bottles (plus 8 other Russian River beers) to be delivered to my house.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 30 January 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link

pliny the younger on home delivery; what a world

call all destroyer, Saturday, 30 January 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link

👍

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 30 January 2021 02:45 (three years ago) link

Did someone say beer

calstars, Saturday, 30 January 2021 03:32 (three years ago) link

Phase Three, one of the best local breweries, has not only started selling a 5% hard seltzer, not only started doing so in a smoothie style "jammed full" of fruit, not only started selling it for $21.99 a 4-pack, but had the absolutely audacity to actually call the line Lulz.

https://www.phasethreebrewingshop.com/uploads/1/3/3/1/133164180/s743319809657808125_p326_i1_w800.png

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link

I would mail order from Russian River and de Garde if they shipped out of state to WA. Sad face.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 4 February 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

Metropolitan

i'm about to have one of their kolsch-ish beers

joygoat, Thursday, 4 February 2021 22:54 (three years ago) link

I dug into my cellar tonight, having kinda forgotten about it for a good long time.

2006 Thomas Hardy’s Ale:
Gone a bit sour, not totally unpleasant but not super desirable either. Mostly tastes like I imagine fermented prune juice would, with a hint of aspirin astringency. Not great. Finished most of the small bottle before dumping the dregs.

2009 Cantillon Lou Pepe Framboise
Bit of suspicious mould on the cork as I open it. Smells like .... olives? Wtf. Tastes also like olives, with some lambic flavour back. Fuck that, this one’s to clean the drains with.

2009 Cantillon organic Kriek
Much more like it. Still a difficult customer, very very sour and aggressive. After the initial shock there’s a fun jolly rancher kind of sweet/sour play on the palate and a nice firm bitterness to close off the mouthful. I don’t think anyone was meant to get through a whole 750ml bottle on their own. We’ll see if tomorrow the whole thing has gone funky with the introduction of some oxygen, but tonight the one glass will do me fine.

Guys don’t @ me because I tazed my own balls alright? (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 15 February 2021 03:39 (three years ago) link

It's surprisingly hard to find beer that's not past its sell-by date at some local beer stores around where I live. At one store near me, I would say more than 50% of the beers that have a sell-by date that I checked on a recent visit were past the date. That doesn't inspire me with a lot of confidence to buy the beers that don't have a sell-by date either. You usually have to look pretty closely to find the sell-by (or "best by" date), it's often stamped faintly on the bottle or can itself, so you have to remove it from the box to check. I guess most people don't know or care enough to check.

― o. nate, Saturday, January 23, 2021 4:55 PM (three weeks ago)

Wish I'd read this earlier because I recently got burned by buying a 6-pack that turned out to be over a month past its "best by" date (>1 year since it was canned). This was completely unexpected since a. I bought it in a grocery that's very beer-oriented where I assumed turnover was rapid, and b. this was a microbrew produced in my own gd borough! In fact I went to another store one block away and found a 6-pack of the same brand that was 11 months fresher.

The brand is Sixpoint Alpen-Flo Lager. It's supposed to be like a German Helles. It's quite all right, though somehow I can still tell it's a microbrew.

Josefa, Monday, 15 February 2021 04:07 (three years ago) link

yikes, pretend that was a block quote

Josefa, Monday, 15 February 2021 04:08 (three years ago) link

walked into my local tiny liquor store as they were getting a delivery of Heady and Focal. that would have been unheard of not long ago.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

Last week I had a chocolate-banana imperial stout. It was really quite good, exactly as promised, but came in a 16oz. can and it was just *too much.* I mean, I finished it, but the next morning I woke up and immediately thought, ugh, I never want that again. I gave one of my extra cans to a friend, who had the exact same reaction (he thought it might taste good mixed with a dark rum). I'm giving another one (it was a 4-pack) to another friend tonight, I'm curious to hear what he thinks.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 13:14 (three years ago) link

I saw on fb that this year's F-W Parabolas are out (three varieties) but my local Total Wine and Whole Foods doesn't have them. I'll be damned if I mail order beer.

nickn, Thursday, 4 March 2021 00:44 (three years ago) link

there are a few very local, new microbreweries that i want to be enthusiastic about further out in jersey near where i grew up. but their beer is just sadly not as good as the more established microbreweries. don't want to call them out, but what is the deal with that? is it really that hard to make a solid new england-style ipa?

treeship., Thursday, 4 March 2021 01:43 (three years ago) link

yes?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 March 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link

yeah, i guess it is. makes me appreciate my favorite spots a lot more.

treeship., Thursday, 4 March 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link

Parabola is in supermarkets in SF, no variants though. They do have that absurdly priced club you can join if you are really ISO lol

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 4 March 2021 02:33 (three years ago) link

how far out in Jersey?

Carton and Kane are both kinda near the Jersey Shore/Asbury Park (and are both super good imho).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 4 March 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link

there are great breweries along the shore. i'm talking further out, mercer and hunterdon counties.

treeship., Thursday, 4 March 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link

i don't want to insult them. both are good for the communities, great spots for people to gather outside.

treeship., Thursday, 4 March 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link

there's a lot of breweries that are well-meaning and good for their communities whose beer i would never buy again. i don't think that's a bad thing per se. and i wouldn't hesitate to name them. they may not work for me but they seem to be working for a lot of other people.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 March 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link

I'm in South Dakota, so I bought some Remedy bc according to the internet it's the best in the state… not bad! About what you'd expect from a run of the mill big city product.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 4 March 2021 03:21 (three years ago) link

I see the appeal of a local beer garden that sell their own brew but a lot of these beers should not be distributed imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 4 March 2021 04:08 (three years ago) link

Speaking of NE IPAs I had the VT IPA from Long Trail recently and thought it was a pretty good example of the style.

o. nate, Thursday, 4 March 2021 04:15 (three years ago) link

long trail always solid

calstars, Thursday, 4 March 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

i'm having an ipa called 'sexual jams' now, a collaboration between brix city brewing (from nearby in little ferry -- i live in fort lee, nj) and district 96, which i'd never heard of before. really good but the can is meant to look to a pixelated frame from a pornographic movie and it's kind of grossing me out.

treeship., Friday, 5 March 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link

yeah that's an eyeroll

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 March 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link

i didn't want to get it. i asked the guy at my local beer shop what was the closest they had to threes' logical conclusion and he said this, which i don't think is that accurate. there is a lingering sweetness to this beer that is really different. it's not bad though.

treeship., Friday, 5 March 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link

I see the appeal of a local beer garden that sell their own brew but a lot of these beers should not be distributed imo

This is so otm.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 March 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I live in the mid-burbs (65 blocks from the edge of what you’d call downtown life here). A brewpub recently opened up within walking distance of my place. I’m bending over backwards to support them; the beer is fine but nobody needs to make this place a destination, nor do they need to can and sell it. It’s just great to have a local that makes local beer for locals.

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 5 March 2021 22:02 (three years ago) link

I think it would be pretty cool if the American beer scene ended up similar to the German/English model where every small city/large town has their own brewery (or two) that doesn't distribute and you drink it because it is good/decent and you can't get that exact beer/scene anywhere else.

perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Saturday, 6 March 2021 13:48 (three years ago) link

My local beer store is now stocking 3 Floyds beers. I decided to try the Gumballhead, which is billed as a hoppy wheat beer, but tbh I couldn't detect much of the wheat aspect, except perhaps in the lighter body. Tasted basically like an IPA to me.

o. nate, Friday, 12 March 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link

i haven't revisited gumballhead since 3 floyds distro started. maybe when it gets warmer. i remember it having an oddly high abv for a wheat beer.

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link

Gumbahallhead reminds me of an aggressively hoppy wheat beer from Lagunitas called Little Sumpin' Sumpin'. Should mention I've never had super fresh Gumballhead tho.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 12 March 2021 02:37 (three years ago) link

yeah those beers are pretty similar from what i remember

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2021 02:42 (three years ago) link

i have very strong and positive "visting friends in chicago before anyone had kids" associations with gumball head and daisy cutter to the point that I don't know and kind of don't care if they're objectively "good" or not

joygoat, Friday, 12 March 2021 14:21 (three years ago) link

They're objectively better than, like, Bud or Miller or Coors or any other generic lager, so I am happy to have them everywhere. Like, if Daisy Cutter is your baseline, you're doing pretty good as far as beer goes.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 March 2021 14:25 (three years ago) link


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