The Sopranos Vs. The Wire

Succession rules

is Succession... a comedy? I kinda feel like it is?

it’s more like Arrested Development than Sopranos tho. milo was correct when he said all the good shows are comedies now

yeah I think it's best appreciated as a bone-dry black comedy

It isn't that I want to watch shows without any horrible people, it's that Succession is like, almost entirely horrible people. It's like, I don't give a fuck about any of you.

yeah, I couldn't deal with Arrested Development either ...

I mean I called it shakespearean but it's more like his immediate uh successors who were a lot less humanist

sarahell, I think that response is 100% understandable

well succession is genuinely straight up Lear!

I don't mean to wag my finger at those who can reconcile their hardcore Bernie Bro ethics and gaining great pleasure from immersing themselves in the fictional lives of "the enemy" ... I just can't do it, without some character(s) representing positive traits or sympathetic circumstances

xp but also relevant to sarahell's point
yeah the set-up is obviously taken from Lear, but none of the kids are exactly Cordelia

tbrr a large part of the enjoyment of watching Succession is watching these assholes eat themselves, so to speak

the kids take turns playing at being cordelia imo

yeah I get it. I just feel like people like that get too much attention IRL.

i can't argue with you there.

hey for anyone missing Succession, consider trying CALL MY AGENT which is on Netflix, a really enjoyable shitty people doing work comedy in French. Focused on the movie industry.

i wouldn't say the attention that succession pays to its characters is good attention. the show does a pretty good job of stripping back the flash and glamor of rich person life, showing that even though the roys can do whatever they want, they're miserable fucks.

Xp and then catch A Very Secret Service which is a stylish 60s-set spy farce

Fuck, like i needed more! You recommend that dmac?

Times did a breakdown of the current haul of "foreign" cable:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/arts/television/international-losing-alice-gomorrah-flack.html

Yep, its got a v nice vibe going on, def if you liked call my agent (which of course is the only paris-set office comedrama anyone should be boosting this last few years instead of That Other One)

alright i grabbed an episode (and pembrokewhatever) on your recommendation

Be good to hear back

Will do here

Lol, maybe do it on the best of 2020 thread, this thread is for the sopranos being shakespearean

Methinks the lady doth etc

Is this SAG war i see before me

Shakespearean

I dont understand what americans mean when they type this word

I am not convinced that they do either

/Pinefox

― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, January 22, 2021 1:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I was the one that brought up Shakespeare and I'll take the heat if I'm wrong, but feel free to sub in "tragedy with flawed male protagonist who destroys everything around them and everyone dies at the end" if you so choose.

I'm no Shakespeare expert (obvs).

that predates Shakespeare tho -- the Greeks repped that shit like a motherfucker

Let’s just all agree on my definition. 🤣

When Paulie reluctantly accepts a promotion in the show's waning days, he tells Tony "I live but to serve, my liege." Maybe that puts the whole Shakespearean thing to bed?

Also Johnny Sack misquotes Macbeth at 1:21 here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGpmriwtniA

case closed

Who can be wise, amazed, temp’rate, and furious,
Loyal and neutral, in a moment?

Sil