Succession seems to me like the most obv omission from flopson's list
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link
Self-consciously prestige, also much much more shakespearean than Wire or Sopranos
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
it's the one with the homeless kids ... and Joel Kinnaman made me want to marry him
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
Beforeigners is the Norwegian time travelling cop thing, right?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
lol Succession is prob great for folks that like the Sopranos and can stomach watching such horrible people which ... I couldn't. Maybe if we hadn't spent 4 years with Trump as President I would be able to, but no.
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link
oh yeah that was good. kinnaman adorable throughout xps
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link
Yes, the Norwegian one with the Viking cop and the transtime community and the bougie porridge cafe
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link
lol I have never heard of this show and it sounds unpossible
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link
"Television Programs without Horrible People" sounds like a good thread to start and pretty challenging to name.
Sesame Street = Oscar the GrouchMr Rogers = I heard Daniel Striped Tiger killed some guy down by the bus depot
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link
i will give beforeigners a look. there's too much stuff!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link
Succession rules
― flopson, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link
is Succession... a comedy? I kinda feel like it is?
it’s more like Arrested Development than Sopranos tho. milo was correct when he said all the good shows are comedies now
― flopson, Friday, 22 January 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
yeah I think it's best appreciated as a bone-dry black comedy
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link
It isn't that I want to watch shows without any horrible people, it's that Succession is like, almost entirely horrible people. It's like, I don't give a fuck about any of you.
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link
yeah, I couldn't deal with Arrested Development either ...
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:01 (three years ago) link
I mean I called it shakespearean but it's more like his immediate uh successors who were a lot less humanist
sarahell, I think that response is 100% understandable
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:01 (three years ago) link
well succession is genuinely straight up Lear!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link
I don't mean to wag my finger at those who can reconcile their hardcore Bernie Bro ethics and gaining great pleasure from immersing themselves in the fictional lives of "the enemy" ... I just can't do it, without some character(s) representing positive traits or sympathetic circumstances
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link
xp but also relevant to sarahell's pointyeah the set-up is obviously taken from Lear, but none of the kids are exactly Cordelia
― rob, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link
tbrr a large part of the enjoyment of watching Succession is watching these assholes eat themselves, so to speak
the kids take turns playing at being cordelia imo
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:08 (three years ago) link
yeah I get it. I just feel like people like that get too much attention IRL.
― sarahell, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
i can't argue with you there.
hey for anyone missing Succession, consider trying CALL MY AGENT which is on Netflix, a really enjoyable shitty people doing work comedy in French. Focused on the movie industry.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link
i wouldn't say the attention that succession pays to its characters is good attention. the show does a pretty good job of stripping back the flash and glamor of rich person life, showing that even though the roys can do whatever they want, they're miserable fucks.
― voodoo chili, Friday, 22 January 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link
Xp and then catch A Very Secret Service which is a stylish 60s-set spy farce
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link
Fuck, like i needed more! You recommend that dmac?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link
Times did a breakdown of the current haul of "foreign" cable:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/arts/television/international-losing-alice-gomorrah-flack.html
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:36 (three years ago) link
Yep, its got a v nice vibe going on, def if you liked call my agent (which of course is the only paris-set office comedrama anyone should be boosting this last few years instead of That Other One)
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, 22 January 2021 23:08 (three years ago) link
alright i grabbed an episode (and pembrokewhatever) on your recommendation
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:08 (three years ago) link
Be good to hear back
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:05 (three years ago) link
Will do here
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link
Lol, maybe do it on the best of 2020 thread, this thread is for the sopranos being shakespearean
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link
Methinks the lady doth etc
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link
Is this SAG war i see before me
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
Shakespearean
I dont understand what americans mean when they type this word
I am not convinced that they do either
/Pinefox
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, January 22, 2021 1:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
I was the one that brought up Shakespeare and I'll take the heat if I'm wrong, but feel free to sub in "tragedy with flawed male protagonist who destroys everything around them and everyone dies at the end" if you so choose.
― Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Saturday, 23 January 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link
I'm no Shakespeare expert (obvs).
― Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Saturday, 23 January 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link
that predates Shakespeare tho -- the Greeks repped that shit like a motherfucker
― sarahell, Saturday, 23 January 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link
Let’s just all agree on my definition. 🤣
― DJI, Saturday, 23 January 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link
When Paulie reluctantly accepts a promotion in the show's waning days, he tells Tony "I live but to serve, my liege." Maybe that puts the whole Shakespearean thing to bed?
― henry s, Sunday, 24 January 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
Also Johnny Sack misquotes Macbeth at 1:21 here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGpmriwtniA
case closed
― Number None, Monday, 25 January 2021 11:18 (three years ago) link
Who can be wise, amazed, temp’rate, and furious,Loyal and neutral, in a moment?
Sil
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Monday, 25 January 2021 11:21 (three years ago) link