Enough With The Cutesy Titles, People Are Dead: US Politics January 2021 pt 2

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xp we got daylight, go for it! time's a'wasting and people are dying!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

Like with "gaslighting", just because "virtue signaling" is often used incorrectly or disingenuously, it doesn't mean the term doesn't still have an applicable purpose.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

The question isn't "criticizing American empire," it's "feeling a little better today as a POC, therefore this makes you a supporter of the American empire."

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

Now its a party, lads

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

ahh the arrows are all pointed inward again. must be a day that ends in "Y"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

Like with "gaslighting", just because "virtue signaling" is often used incorrectly or disingenuously, it doesn't mean the term doesn't still have an applicable purpose.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:53 PM (seven seconds ago)

there's not a "correct" version of the phrase, it's a coinage literally invented by reactionary trolls to accuse people of having ulterior motives for advocating for progressive ideas or even simply that women shouldn't be harassed on messageboards, just say something else!

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

it's easy to get tripped up when some people here do support american empire

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

About to leave the office. Class is over. Time for a drink!

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

it's easy to get tripped up when some people here do support american empire

― stylish but illegal (Simon H.)j

gabbneb is long gone iirc

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

it's the same thing as "white knighting", the implication is you're just trying to look good so you can get your dick wet, pure incel logic

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

posted in here too many times today, self-FP time

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

Perhaps being able to say 'these executive actions seem good' and 'this charade of nationalistic hooey is absolute bullshit and so is the bullshit politics of representation that dumb liberals are disingenuously engaging in' might be a bit much for you, DJP and Alfred, but it isn't for me.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

Tables empire post was bad but to be fair he immediately said he shouldn’t be posting here and left. I don’t know what excuse the rest of us have.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

Ha xp speak of the devil!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

i'm just waiting for the New Radicals

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

as well as being alt right language it's just the standard purity line, like obviously no one really cares about this shit, it could only ever be some kind of posturing, just let us celebrate imperialism in peace

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

There are good people on both sides here!

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

'this charade of nationalistic hooey is absolute bullshit

this is much better than what you originally wrote but hardly original b/c iirc I don't know how many people on ILX love the pageantry.

I hate Xmas carols but understand the point of them.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

I'm frankly baffled as to why fellow anarchists don't see this as a clear victory against straight up fascism that opens up more possibilities to build alternative mutual aid networks etc.

Like sure, "president change - the enemy remains" like I saw tagged downtown the other day, of course, but there's also very good reasons to celebrate today. Of course the system is shitty! Let's see how far we can push them now.

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

various people here OTM

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

I just replace “virtue signal” with “setting a good example” in my head so tbh I don’t understand the point Alfred was trying to make

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

xxp I see a lot of people online enthusiastically embracing instutitions they had previously declared irreperrably broken under trump and it looks pretty bleak glad you can find some hope somewhere

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

But apparently it's too much for you that others have reactions and perspectives that don't 100% align with yours

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

Please continue posting actions Team Biden has taken, even small ones.

Xpost

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

I mean...when you come into a thread accusing the thread participants of collectively being imperialists, knowing full well at least two posters (but probably many more) are PoC who are relieved to see the end of the previous administration...idk, do you expect a great reaction from that? It kind of invites "are you REALLY left-wing enough?" and is itself a 'purity test'.

I like table, but I understand why DJP and Alfred responded the way they did, and I don't exactly consider either of them to be John Kerry politically.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

I'm frankly baffled as to why fellow anarchists don't see this as a clear victory against straight up fascism that opens up more possibilities to build alternative music festivals

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

like we can do another 4 years of intentionally misunderstanding each other, or we can actually converse

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

an awful lot of reading into a short post by table, i would simply have chosen to ignore it

anyway I’m going to go back to our threads and post about how great Priti Patel and Leo Varadkar are, yassss king and kween

just don’t get the flag too stained

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

you are a fucking racist

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

I'm frankly baffled as to why fellow anarchists don't see this as a clear victory against straight up fascism that opens up more possibilities to build alternative mutual aid networks etc.

Like sure, "president change - the enemy remains" like I saw tagged downtown the other day, of course, but there's also very good reasons to celebrate today.

The problem is "clear victory" and "celebrate."

Not a single person who has posted to ILX regularly since Roger Adultery left would say that Joe Biden isn't an improvement on Donald Trump.

Joe Biden is also a corrupt centrist with multiple sexual misconduct allegations and a long history of bad policy decisions. No one should be confused for even a moment why an 'anarchist' wouldn't celebrate his ascension.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

i am here as a fan of parades, marching bands and waving-to-crowds

i am on board for pomp & if thats wrong i dont want it to be right

lotta grumpy parade-hating nerds itt <3

oh and here for every mention of The Second Gentleman because i still pinch myself every time they say it :D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

Tabes, I'm sorry for using that term.

You should not have written a dumb-as-hell statement in a forum that except in a Al Green thread is not known for unequivocal celebrations.

You often post as if you were the only white guy who's read a few books on foreign policy.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

It would be helpful if some of the genuine leftists around here worked up a crib sheet of real political issues and the accepted way to express our infinite disgust concerning each one. It could probably be credit card sized if you used both sides.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link

thought the approved alternative term was "performatively woke" - only "woke" has been stolen by the shitheads now I guess.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link

i am here as a fan of parades, marching bands and waving-to-crowds

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:05 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh great now VG is outing herself as a fucking orangeman

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

milo that's cute of you to use quotes, but yes this anarchist is drinking a mimosa and feeling pretty good that probably less friends of friends of mine are going to be murdered by Nazis now, fuck you.

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

"Why aren't you accepting of alternate viewpoints????" yell thirty people ganging up on one person who expressed dissent.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

you are a fucking racist


the point I was making is that we have really right wing politicians on this side of the Atlantic who don’t become good because of their background. it’s a pretty crude way to make the point, and I apologise, but I don’t think judging KH by her deeds is less important than her background.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

I'm sorry to interrupt but why was joe sworn in with the fucking Necronomicon

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

lol jeez dmac

not THOSE parades?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

It's an entirely racist way to make the point and you should do a lot of soul-searching about how easy it was for you to do it.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

I'm sorry to interrupt but why was joe sworn in with the fucking Necronomicon

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-01-2015/KWjZH-.gif

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

Biden: Yes, yes, feel the Unity flow through you!

http://media.giphy.com/media/3oKIPzLXQYb2Bn5PLG/giphy.gif

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:14 (three years ago) link

finally, the Satanism I was promised

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:14 (three years ago) link

if only morbs could have been here for this thread

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

nerdy footnote: Bidens inauguration bible has been in his family for 183 years and has all his swearing-in dates inscribed in it + Beau’s AG Delaware swearing-in as well

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:17 (three years ago) link

Happy days!

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

what was he sworn into 183 years ago?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

mean...when you come into a thread accusing the thread participants of collectively being imperialists, knowing full well at least two posters (but probably many more) are PoC who are relieved to see the end of the previous administration...idk, do you expect a great reaction from that? It kind of invites "are you REALLY left-wing enough?" and is itself a 'purity test'.

I like table, but I understand why DJP and Alfred responded the way they did, and I don't exactly consider either of them to be John Kerry politically.

― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal),

otm -- this is it

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

xpost I like the nerdy footnote. I don't imagine Trump owns a bible, probably had to borrow that copy for his gas-the-kids march

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link


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