Joe Biden is (currently) President of the United States

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BoJo thread should get routinely updated in retaliation.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:49 (five months ago) link

Would say we need a betting pool thread for the first coup but they already made it clear that Venezuela is top of the list.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:51 (five months ago) link

also the fourth or fifth thread about joey joe joe junior shabadoo


I searched thread titles containing “Biden” earlier today and got 23 results (that was before this one)

Trump gave me 84 results, Obama 116 - don’t see jb getting quite so many. He has two RIP threads which might get some play before he reaches those numbers

Yelp for gyros (wins), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:54 (five months ago) link

inshallah

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:57 (five months ago) link

Feel free, of course, to post about how Joe Biden sucks.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:43 (fourteen minutes ago) link

We've got this.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:58 (five months ago) link

https://www.whitehouse.gov/
we got new website

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:59 (five months ago) link

Please let us just enjoy this for a day for a month.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:00 (five months ago) link

Joe Biden sucks, what has he done for me so far it’s been an hour

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:01 (five months ago) link

Nobody is allowed to enjoy anything fyi, this cannot be news at this stage surely

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:04 (five months ago) link

everyone is allowed to enjoy trump's humiliation

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:06 (five months ago) link

Now we can get back to business as usual: smart, responsible, and technically legal war crimes as well as a robust package of corporate kickbacks coupled with targeted (and likely temporary) social programs

— Edward Ongweso Jr (@bigblackjacobin) January 20, 2021

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:07 (five months ago) link

Gurramahagutt cinnte

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:07 (five months ago) link

xxp there just shouldn't be a "and trump lite is great" clause attached to the celebration of it

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:08 (five months ago) link

Lots of "Liberals howled when Trump ________________. But when Biden _____________ there wasn't a peep" madlib columns are itching to be filled out.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:09 (five months ago) link

well tbf I haven't heard much liberal condemnation of biden's concentration camps yet

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:09 (five months ago) link

can we still call them that when a good guy is in charge

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:10 (five months ago) link

I still kinda can’t believe we made it.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:13 (five months ago) link

atm feeling mostly like we've been helplessly standing by as someone hacked their way through the dam that keeps us all from drowning, and Biden is the dude who is currently blocking that crude hole with his wizened body. I am thankful to have him plugging up the hole while we do something about the water that's currently up to our noses, and we'll see if he's able to do anything beyond that.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:15 (five months ago) link

countdown to Biden reversing some Trumpian atrocity of an Executive Order later today and the Republicans immediately co-opting #Resist hashtag... 3... 2...

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:30 (five months ago) link

i'm preparing to endure an enormous amount of bullshit from the left and the right for the rest of my life

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:40 (five months ago) link

congratulations to america on their new rapist president

— abolish the police (@infinite_scream) January 20, 2021

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:40 (five months ago) link

from the center it's all coming up roses tho

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:41 (five months ago) link

there is no center, and if there is, it's the genesis of bullshit

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:43 (five months ago) link

oh what a beautiful inaugur WAIT I'M NOT IN THE POLITICS THREAD I'M IN THE BIDEN THREAD OOPS MODS PLZ DELETE

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:41 (five months ago) link

Joe Biden is Q imo

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:44 (five months ago) link

i mean, think about it - it makes perfect sense.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:44 (five months ago) link

From this morning:

I'm sure she's basking in Trump's humiliating exit, but yeah, watching someone being inaugurated who was such a non-starter in 2015 he had to step aside for her run, that can't be much fun.
― clemenza, Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:14 AM

He didn’t run because his eldest son had just died.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:39 AM

Not that it matters now, but I believe it was more likely a combination of the two.
― clemenza, Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:42 AM

have no idea if biden would have beaten Clinton in 2016 and no interest in having that conversation but the idea that she was such a strong candidate that she drove out the Vice President is pretty obviously not true. She demonstrably wasn’t a strong candidate!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:43 AM

I disagree, caek. I think there was very much momentum at the time for that nomination to go to her (and then Sanders changed things). But like you, not a lot of interest in revisiting that.
― clemenza, Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:46 AM

And I don’t, mostly because someone will tell me to go fuck myself, and someone else will post “WHO CARES,” and someone else will ask a rhetorical question I take literally and stupidly try to answer. But if we can keep it polite, I think it’s an interesting example of how perceptions can change over time.

I started looking around--one of the luxuries or curses of semi-retirement, take your pick--and skimmed these five accounts of Biden dropping out, published in the immediate aftermath.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-biden-didnt-run

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/21/politics/joe-biden-not-running-2016-election/index.html

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/run-2016/2015/10/21/joe-biden-didnt-run-because-he-couldnt-win

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/joe-biden-running-president/story?id=34338816

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/22/us/joe-biden-concludes-theres-no-time-for-a-2016-run.html

The New Yorker link doesn’t mention Beau Biden. The other four do, but they put more emphasis on Biden having run out of time to mount a challenge against Clinton.

CNN: Implicit in Biden’s remarks was a realization that Clinton’s position and organizational muscle in early voting states are just too strong for him to mount a credible challenge at such a late stage – just three-and-a-half months before first votes are cast.

U.S. News: In the end, Biden's decision wasn't solely about timing. It was about lacking a conceivable pathway to victory.

ABC: Though Biden said his family is far enough into their grief to handle the rigors of a presidential campaign, there’s too little time to make the prospect viable. “Unfortunately, I believe we're out of time; the time necessary to mount a winning campaign for the nomination," Biden said.

NYT: In a hurriedly arranged speech in the White House Rose Garden with President Obama at his side, Mr. Biden said that he and his family had overcome their grief at the death of his elder son enough to commit themselves to the rigors of a campaign. But with just days until the first filing deadlines, he said he had concluded that it was simply too late.

Honestly, when I initially posted, I had forgotten about the proximity of his son’s death--obviously, that was a big factor in his decision. But five months later, I think it was more that he didn’t think he could win, and that Hillary was a strong candidate at that point. Biden has run for president three times, and almost ran a fourth. (My guess is it crossed his mind in 1992, too, but the plagiarism incident was still way too close; no recollection if his name surfaced in 2004.) Presidential ambition is obviously part of his DNA--which is fine, you don’t become president without that. But absent Clinton, I think he most definitely would have run in 2016; he may even have mentioned his son’s death as one of the reasons he was running, like he did this time, rather than as a reason not to.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:12 (five months ago) link

uh didn't the biden camp allege that Beau had explicitly asked Joe to run?

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:16 (five months ago) link

but october 2015 is way too late to announce and organize...bernie and hilary both announced their campaign in April 2015, the month before Beau died. Trump announced in June. And Biden started this campaign in April 2019.

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:25 (five months ago) link

anyway he got in there eventually, no harm done

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:33 (five months ago) link

Totally agree, and I definitely don't want to come across as insensitive to what he went through re his son's death. My own memory of the timeline was just kind of nagging at me.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:39 (five months ago) link

congrats joe, hope you keep pissing off all the right people for the next four years

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:10 (five months ago) link

All Presidents Are Biden

Florida Man vs. California Bill (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:30 (five months ago) link

scum

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsLy4xwVgAAHccq?format=jpg&name=small

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:36 (five months ago) link

did I say four years? nah — eight years

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:39 (five months ago) link

YOUNG N'REFINED

Florida Man vs. California Bill (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:41 (five months ago) link

warren g. tryharding in that photo

Florida Man vs. California Bill (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:41 (five months ago) link

I can't believe
Warren lowered tax on wealth

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:01 (five months ago) link

just two more presidents and we can complete the panini wallchart

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:07 (five months ago) link

I have seven fuckin bush srs, hate that

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:07 (five months ago) link

Has anybody seen the new president? https://www.instagram.com/p/CKSkiRzj3zc/?igshid=s865dtzbw4hh

BrianB, Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:38 (five months ago) link

Decker is - my- President.

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:48 (five months ago) link

This is very presidential.

NEW: The Biden admin is reopening an overflow facility in Texas for unaccompanied migrant children apprehended at the US-Mexico border. It comes amid an increase in apprehensions + reduced capacity limits at other facilities due to Covid-19. https://t.co/MYRvIr9gm6

— Priscilla Alvarez (@priscialva) February 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 22:10 (four months ago) link

"It comes amid an increase in apprehensions." It would be nice to know the time frame being referenced here by "amid". Also, it was reported that ICE literally refused to comply with Biden's EO stopping this policy and it isn't clear to me if ICE has yet decided to comply.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 22:18 (four months ago) link

"Under President Donald Trump, the US-Mexico border operated under hardline policies intended to keep migrants out of the United States, including a policy that required asylum seekers to stay in Mexico until their court dates in the US and a public health order allowing quick expulsion of migrants encountered by border agents.
Moves to increase capacity and shelter for migrants are indicative of one of the looming challenges for the Biden administration -- more migrants at the border -- but also signal a shift from the Trump administration's posture of turning everyone away."

by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 22:24 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

not good, man
https://i.imgur.com/p20vfbf.jpg

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 29 April 2021 04:10 (one month ago) link

eh, that's just standard issue politicospeak, like those endless kitchen tables they love so much

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Thursday, 29 April 2021 04:12 (one month ago) link

only one country can win each century, every historian knows that

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 29 April 2021 04:37 (one month ago) link

Canada won last century but the US has a great shot at winning this one

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/wilfrid-laurier-canadas-century-1904

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 29 April 2021 04:39 (one month ago) link

how so?

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 03:25 (six days ago) link

well it seems to enable passively rewriting history for one

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 03:27 (six days ago) link

what am I saying? nothing passive about it.

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 03:28 (six days ago) link

Going to register my doubt that a significant percentage of Joe Biden’s voters really feel the looming danger of Antifa and ‘pro-choice extremists.’

Biden’s actions (whether on this one or the aforementioned willful ignorance) aren’t born of strategizing about what got him elected - they’re what this fossil believes.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 19 June 2021 03:31 (six days ago) link

it seems to enable passively rewriting history for one

Do presidents have sole custody of history and how it is written? No.

Is writing history their primary job? No.

If Biden had said what is undoubtedly true, which is that the USA had frequently fomented coups and interfered with elections in dozens of countries, as well as instigating wars of conquest throughout its long, criminal history, how would that have been greeted? By millions of Americans suddenly accepting this dismal fact? No.

Would it have strengthened his political purpose of painting Russian interference in US elections as something insidious, wrong, and to be strenuously objected to? No.

It seems to me that the good you have identified is tenuous at best, in that the 'good' effect on history you imply would result is beyond merely being uncertain, it is so unlikely as to be vanishing.

If you would like further contradictory rationalizations, apply below. I would hardly rate your cited 'good' as beyond a multitude of reasonable doubts.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 03:46 (six days ago) link

remember when liberals shrieked about how trump was destroying the concept of truth lol

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 03:54 (six days ago) link

lol I and p much everyone I’ve dated in the last five years are terrorists now, I guess. fun!

also, as Charles Pierce pointed out, this mf was on the Church committee, he’s not just actively lying about history, he’s lying about his own experience of it, which happened on live tv

nicole, Saturday, 19 June 2021 03:55 (six days ago) link

xp Gee. If you would like to make it a competition, as I vaguely recall being reported, Trump was cited for about 20,000 blatant untruths during his presidency. So may that those who kept track eventually gave up on attempting a thorough accounting. How about citing Biden's score since his inauguration? He'd need about 1900 more than the one we're discussing to keep up with Trump.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:02 (six days ago) link

btw, I am not in any way arguing that Biden's denial that the US has frequently interfered with elections was anything but untrue. It was so far from the truth it enters the realm of delusion. What I am arguing is that this sort of participation in the collective delusions of the US masses has an identifiable political value, and substituting the dismal truth in that situation would have had almost zero practical benefit to society.

The only viable alternative was to say nothing about US history in this regard, but he chose to surf on the delusion in order to leverage the delusion on his behalf. That is not admirable, but it is good politics. As the newspaper editor at the end of "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" says at the end, when the legend becomes fact, print the legend. The legend of US purity and benevolence is unalterable fact to tens of millions.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:17 (six days ago) link

wonder why

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:19 (six days ago) link

maybe something to do with entrenched power spreading falsehoods deliberately over decades

who can say

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:20 (six days ago) link

I blame Joe Biden. He could fix it if he wanted to.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:20 (six days ago) link

thank you for reminding me why I stopped posting in these threads lol peace

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:41 (six days ago) link

you should run for office instead. the world needs you.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:52 (six days ago) link

I blame Joe Biden. He could fix it if he wanted to.

Unless you think puppetmasters are literally putting words in Sleepy Joe’s mouth… he actually can fix this. No one makes him say stupid and absolutely false things like “the US interfere in elections? Who could imagine that, Jack?”

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 19 June 2021 05:17 (six days ago) link

I noted he had the alternative of saying nothing about that history. So we agree about that.

I was addressing the contention that Joe refraining from lying about the US history in this instance would somehow affect how history is written and generally was estimating how much measurable 'good' would have been accomplished by his saying nothing at all, or alternatively citing chapter and verse of all the US crimes in this regard, while he was speaking about Russian interference in US elections.

It's not like these facts are mysteries to ILXors; they are not buried by historians. The conversation was about Biden saying one stupid, untrue thing in order to strengthen his contention that the Russian interference was bad for the USA by citing a pure falsehood about our history. As cause for complaint in presidential conduct this is just belly scratching. We do it mainly because it feels good.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 05:31 (six days ago) link

RIP Champ

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 19 June 2021 21:35 (six days ago) link

is it beneficial to have all elected reps be sociopaths who think that voters are too stupid or fragile not to lie to, or does it kick in at a certain level of influence?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 19 June 2021 21:38 (six days ago) link

i dunno bro, ask Obama

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 June 2021 23:51 (six days ago) link

sic's just a curious guy, askin' questions

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 19 June 2021 23:58 (six days ago) link

wait, is "Aimless" not Obama's login? I don't read Springsteen threads

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 20 June 2021 02:29 (five days ago) link

I think there's more than one ilxor who'd feel insulted to equate me with Barack Obama.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Sunday, 20 June 2021 02:42 (five days ago) link


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