ILX's Best Television of 2020 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 29, 2021

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Numbered is good

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:52 (three months ago) link

Ta, voted

groovypanda, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:56 (three months ago) link

nine ballots! why not take this inauguration day and think about television? i know i am!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:04 (three months ago) link

Just caught up on S3 of Corporate (the first episode of which was so, so good). Any other recommendations? There's a ton on this list I haven't heard of and I'm keen to fit a couple more things on my ballot. Dark comedies or chilling dramas especially welcome.

For my part, I'd suggest Dead to Me to anyone who didn't watch, or hasn't at all. Just a two-season investment and it's a great blend of introspective dialogue and kind of hysterical plot devices. Plus, Linda Cardellini is just the best.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:34 (three months ago) link

Love her in Freaks and Geeks and Mad Men, will have to look into that.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:41 (three months ago) link

tangent, you need to watch the dress up gang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuePaFHcVFc

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:42 (three months ago) link

oh wow totally forgot about dead to me s2

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:11 (three months ago) link

Ranking is tricky this year. Some great shows had really off seasons (looking at you Noah Hawley grrr). Some shows I bet I'm the only person who votes for like Picard lol.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:34 (three months ago) link

that's ten ballots. why not put yours in the post this morning!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:15 (three months ago) link

Putting together my ballot now (but probably not sending for another week). I like fork's ranking system because I thought two shows last year were excellent, three shows very good, and then a bunch of other stuff ok

surprisingly, the side poll is quite difficult to narrow down to 5!

Vinnie, Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:21 (three months ago) link

fyi the predominant feeling I get when I vote in these polls is that I watch too much fucking TV

Vinnie, Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:22 (three months ago) link

dude, it was a pandemic year

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:28 (three months ago) link

tangent, you need to watch the dress up gang

Already on it from one of your former recommendations! Need more dark comedy recommendations - I'm currently watching nothing!

tangenttangent, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:09 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA0Td89Xf7E

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:16 (three months ago) link

dress up gang gonna be top 3-5 range for me for sure.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:41 (three months ago) link

i forget if you saw Brockmire? That's as dark as it gets. No baseball knowledge necessary.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:21 (three months ago) link

Guess I know what I’m watching tonight

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:22 (three months ago) link

"comedy" shows that I watched from 2020 that I will rep for: All Gas No Brakes, Aunty Donna, Brockmire, Close Enough, Corporate, Desus and Mero, Dream Corp LLC, Dress Up Gang, Forky Asks a Question, Ghosts, High Maintenance, How To with John Wilson, Kim's Convenience, Last Week Tonight, Looney Tunes Cartoons, Mandy, Mythic Quest: Raven's Banquet, PEN15, Ramy, Rick and Morty, Search Party, Staged, Ted Lasso, Three Busy Debras, What We Do in Shadows, Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse, Work in Progress

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:40 (three months ago) link

the cream of those would be AGNB, Brockmire, Corporate, D&M, Dress Up Gang, High Maintenance, How To, Looney Tunes, PEN15, Ramy, Staged, Ted Lasso, What We Do in Shadows, Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse, Work in Progress.

Brockmire, Corporate, Ramy and Work in Progress are all incredible and have dark, dark hearts.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:42 (three months ago) link

Thank you for the fine-tuned list! Lots of those on mine already but I'll see what I can get through before then. I watched the first season of Brockmire on your mentioning it, but didn't return for whatever reason, though I liked it enough (and baseball is the best). I will get around to it, though probably not before voting.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:59 (three months ago) link

I probably don't need to do this here, but I just want to take a moment to rep for Action Button. Tim Rogers has been grinding his idiosyncratic critical lens for 20 years, and if you look through that lens, you will see an Aleph-like kaleidoscopic view of the history of video games. If you're put off by the length of his videos, a stranger on Youtube has kindly excerpted 8 minutes of him talking about Dark Souls, which I think is a useful microcosm of His Whole Deal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1cLzU2U5Nk

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Friday, 22 January 2021 01:15 (three months ago) link

Which is to say nothing of his poignant-yet-ironic personal digressions, his being born stupid and never dying hungry, and so forth

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Friday, 22 January 2021 01:20 (three months ago) link

his entire project is fascinating to me

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 22 January 2021 03:38 (three months ago) link

15 votes now! It's a very mannered collection thus far and could definitely use your voice to even out some of the current peaks and valleys... so vote why dontcha? That way when we run the poll winners you'll have a right to complain when a youtube you've never heard of wins.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:34 (three months ago) link

Submitted! Having now actually pored over the list, I realize I haven't seen hardly any 2020 shows (which is in keeping with my general tendency of experiencing media a minimum of 3-5 years after everyone else). At the very least, I need to get on Work in Progress after realizing that I know someone in the cast.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:52 (three months ago) link

it's among my fave things from last year for sure so yeah, watch it! and thanks for putting in a ballot!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:16 (three months ago) link

even out some of the current peaks and valleys

Only part I disagree with. Everyone should vote but also they should vote for the very unexpected current #1* that me and at least one other voter put high on the list because that would rule

*I don't KNOW know it's #1, but in my heart, I believe

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:18 (three months ago) link

heh, i appreciate your passion but my enjoyment in this poll comes from a clearer awareness of what the board as a whole has been watching and enjoying this year, which is why I would like EVERYONE to vote. We all had a shitty covid year to lesser or greater extent and at least 95% of us spent it watching television. So let's talk about it!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:02 (three months ago) link

gonna vote next week after finishing the new pope (which is so so good)

voodoo chili, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:03 (three months ago) link

i've avoided New Pope till now; i was literally just reading a description of the first season that caught my eye. Two of the only things i genuinely don't care about are the hierarchies of the catholic church and the british aristocracy. We have similar tastes VC; do you think i'd dig it?

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:08 (three months ago) link

oh don't get me wrong -- i want everyone to vote too! i just want them all to agree with me

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:27 (three months ago) link

xp

trust me, i have no particular affinity for papal palace intrigue haha, but the show makes you care, mostly because the character of voiello is so enmeshed in vatican politics and he's such a fascinating and watchable figure. the show also portrays the vatican as a arcane enclave of weirdos, whose backward prejudices and petty grievances have a massive affect on the beliefs and happiness of millions worldwide.

the young/new pope is gloriously unsubtle, hammering home the conflict between the sacred and profane with hilarious absurdity. beautifully shot in ways that intentionally evokes the renaissance-era artwork that adorns the vatican walls. one of the unique elements is how it undercuts moments of true beauty with broad humor, and it exists in a heightened magical realism plane with lots of symbolism and some truly bizarre left-field elements. (there are also subtle hints in the new pope that the show might take place in the future)

forks, i think it might be a bit on the all-over-the-place side for your tastes. if you don't like the first few episodes of young pope (at least watch until THAT needle drop before his first homily to the cardinals, which i think is in episode 5, though you'll probably be able to figure out if the show is for you before then), then it's just not for you.

i think it is certainly a show for bradnelson lol

voodoo chili, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:41 (three months ago) link

okay, will dip my beak in at some point. thanks for taking the time to game out your thoughts!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:42 (three months ago) link

ha no prob. weird that there's no thread for it, gonna fix that now.

voodoo chili, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:45 (three months ago) link

i loved season 1 still need to watch season 2

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:47 (three months ago) link

If it were possible to send in a bottom three that would lose those shows five points each and FP those that nominated them then Id do that and it would be dracula, three times

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, 22 January 2021 23:15 (three months ago) link

lol, i'll note that if it places

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:06 (three months ago) link

but vote anyway!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:08 (three months ago) link

I have that as my #1

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:09 (three months ago) link

Second ep of Dracula was great, third would have been good if they’d done a fourth that went into a sexy sci-fi future without making any other changes

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:15 (three months ago) link

Second ep of Dracula was great, third would have been good if they’d done a fourth that went into a sexy sci-fi future without making any other changes

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:21 (three months ago) link

thanks, PHONE

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:22 (three months ago) link

great post vc! I really liked both The Young Pope and The New Pope

Dan S, Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:24 (three months ago) link

I've actually watched enough telly this year to submit something approaching a worthwhile ballot. Will get on it.

Hard agree with how bad Dracula was. Dreadful bollocks.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 23 January 2021 11:58 (three months ago) link

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Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 12:33 (three months ago) link

Voted, thanks forks. I started a thread about my number 1 show, I May Destroy You, and I wrote about it there.

I liked xyzzzz__’s conclusion on it, bolded part is it in a nutshell.

I think I liked that it resisted any kind of takeaway. There was some painful processing of experience, but ultimately stuff got done -- that she needed her rapist to take away her writing block I realise quite a brutal expression of what it is to do stuff, sometimes -- life goes on and we keep muddling through the disaster.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 23 January 2021 12:36 (three months ago) link

A reminder that the second season of The Umbrella Academy came out last year and you should all vote for it, or watch it then vote for it.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 23 January 2021 13:11 (three months ago) link

ballot sent

that's not my post, Saturday, 23 January 2021 15:50 (three months ago) link

I voted. 19 shows on my list.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 23 January 2021 16:40 (three months ago) link

21 ballots! Why not get yours done over this weekend? Anywhere from three to twenty-five shows is valid!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 18:38 (three months ago) link

I just submitted a last-minute ballot.

jaymc, Saturday, 30 January 2021 06:21 (three months ago) link

takin' it!

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 January 2021 06:23 (three months ago) link

Okay, closing it up. 47 total ballots with 162 shows receiving at least one vote.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 January 2021 07:08 (three months ago) link

Oh no oh no! I forgot!

tangent x (tangenttangent), Saturday, 30 January 2021 11:54 (three months ago) link

Despite imago's repeated reminders... Going to fire one across now (or, in fifteen minutes) but completely understand if you can't accept. :(

tangent x (tangenttangent), Saturday, 30 January 2021 11:55 (three months ago) link

Fucks sake forks, a bit of a warning wouldnt have gone amiss lad

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:13 (three months ago) link

I"m okay leaving this open for the night but I'd like to close in the morning.

It is 7am EST. I think forks should be able to accept haha

imago, Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:14 (three months ago) link

xp lol

tangent x (tangenttangent), Saturday, 30 January 2021 12:15 (three months ago) link

okay, i took BOTH of the last minute ballots, so we're up to 49 ballots and 165 shows receiving at least one vote and a decent looking top 77 where we are out of single vote territory at #75 and every single #1 pick makes the countdown! Yay me for figuring out a way to make this balance where those boxes were ticked!

depending on moka's schedule, we can likely get this up the week after or two weeks after we finish the album poll in the upcoming week. then i'm done with this shit for awhile; it's a surprisingly time-consuming gig!

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:08 (three months ago) link

your effort is appreciated forks

Dan S, Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:16 (three months ago) link

moka's too

Dan S, Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:18 (three months ago) link

It isn't surprisingly! My god

imago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 08:49 (three months ago) link

But the effort is stupendous and I'm so grateful

imago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 08:49 (three months ago) link

lol I forgot this was happening

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 18:15 (three months ago) link

I've only now discovered a show going the last few years Id've nommed/voted for if I knew about it sooner called Superstore. By one of the Office writers, basically its what if The Office, but Walmart. I'd never heard of it.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 1 February 2021 22:35 (three months ago) link

Keep seeing that on my Netflix splash page - will check it out

groovypanda, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 07:11 (three months ago) link

Superstore is IMMENSELY FUNNY

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 18:13 (three months ago) link

And quite subversive! A lot of really good current worker's politics and a great representative cast.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 4 February 2021 02:59 (three months ago) link

Yeah, I've watched a few episodes and now I'm saving it up.

trishyb, Thursday, 4 February 2021 11:31 (three months ago) link

we're roughly on track for a next week rollout here btw

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 February 2021 16:06 (three months ago) link

clicktease

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 7 February 2021 21:57 (two months ago) link


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