CAN you pick only one?: The CAN albums poll

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I did right and voted for MM.

nickn, Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Soon Over, still. Ege next, then tago mago. But not only is Soon Over the most underrated Can album, it really doesn't even sound like any of the others, *and* it contains my favorite Can tracks "Chain Reaction"/"Quantum Physics". Also, now that I'm thinking of it, imo this is the record that "Future Days" hinted at, rather than the rest of the Future Days LP.

^ listen to what the man said

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2009 08:48 (fourteen years ago) link

delay 1968, and no foolin'.

m the g, Thursday, 9 July 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i voted for future days but it's really close with soon over babaluma to me, I could have easily picked that. in fact, I never even listen to the other Can albums

akm, Thursday, 9 July 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I've still never heard Delay 1968. I guess I should.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 10 July 2009 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I have it but have only played it once. Not really that impressed but maybe I should try again.

nickn, Friday, 10 July 2009 06:46 (fourteen years ago) link

It's definitely a partner to "Monster Movie"

Mark G, Friday, 10 July 2009 06:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Monster Movie is great though

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 13 July 2009 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link

lol @ "can fat people rock"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCrQ3ixSTNc

gayest flash mob pillow fight yet (Pillbox), Monday, 13 July 2009 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Might be of interest to those reading/voting in this thread--I made a mix of extra- and post-Can stuff (1977-1984) with tracks from 17 different side projects, guest appearances, collaborations, etc. A lot of really great stuff, often (in my opinion) stronger than later Can stuff (which is often underrated itself):


Can – ‘The Church of Latter-Day Can, Book Two’
(Beyond Can, 1977-1984)

01 Michael Rother (with Liebezeit & Plank) – “Karussell” (Edit) – ['Flammende Herzen,' 1977] (3:22)
02 Michael Rother (with Liebezeit & Plank) – “Zeni” (Edit) – ['Flammende Herzen,' 1977] (3:38)
03 Czukay (with Liebezeit & Rebop Baah) – Cool in the Pool” – ['Movies,' 1979] (5:03)
04 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Without Desire” – ['Phantom Band,' 1980] (2:38)
05 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit & Rosko Gee) – “You Inspired Me” – ['Phantom Band,' 1980] (4:00)
06 Eurythmics (with Liebezeit) – “Take Me To Your Heart” – ['In The Garden,' 1981] (3:35)
07 Eurythmics (with Czukay & Liebezeit) – “Never Gonna Cry Again” – ['In The Garden,' 1981] (3:05)
08 Les Vampyrettes (Czukay & Plank) – “Biomutanten” (Edit) – ['Biomutanten' EP, 1981] (3:32)
09 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Experiments” – ['Freedom of Speech,' 1981] (3:34)
10 Liebezeit, Czukay & Jah Wobble – Trench Warfare” – ['How Much Are They?' EP, 1981] (4:50)
11 Czukay (with Liebezeit) – “Fragrance” – ['On the Way to the Peak of Normal,' 1981] (4:13)
12 Phew (with Liebezeit & Czukay) – “Fragment” – ['Phew,' 1981] (3:59)
13 Schmidt (with Bruno Spoerri) – “Toy Planet” – ['Toy Planet,' 1981] (3:04)
14 Schmidt (with Liebezeit, Karoli & Gee) – “Endstation Freiheit” – ['Filmmuzik Vol. 2,' 1981] (3:37)
15 Dunkelziffer (with Liebezeit) – “Strom” (Edit) – ['Stil Der Neuen Zeit' EP, 1982] (3:03)
16 Czukay, Jah Wobble, The Edge & Francois Kevorkian – “Snake Charmer” – ['Snake Charmer' EP, 1983] (4:07)
17 Gabi Delgado (with Liebezeit) – “Victim” – ['Mistress,' 1983] (3:30)
18 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “The Party” – ['Nowhere,' 1984] (1:31)
19 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Loading Zone” – ['Nowhere,' 1984] (3:50)
20 Dunkelziffer (with Suzuki) – “Watch On My Head” – ['In The Night,' 1984] (2:52)
21 Karoli & Polly Eltes (with Liebezeit) – “Yours & Mine” – ['Deluge,' 1984] (4:28)
22 Karoli & Polly Eltes – “Watch On My Head” (Edit) – ['Deluge,' 1984] (3:47)

[Total Time: 78:37]

If you don't know Liebezeit's Phantom Band, it's worth grabbing this just for an introduction to them (their first album is also up in full at my blog). Get the mix at Musicophilia and the Phantom Band's 1980 s/t LP here.

Soundslike, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 09:33 (fourteen years ago) link

if you don't want this. you have no business being on ILM.

Hamildan, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 12:12 (fourteen years ago) link

it also means I don't have to buy that Eurythmics reissue to satisfy my curiosity. thanks.

Hamildan, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 12:15 (fourteen years ago) link

That mix looks like a lot of fun. Roughly know the first half but hardly anything from the second half. God I love Flammende Herzen.

willem, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link

awesome, thanks.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Echoing thanks.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Still Monster Movie for me.

D. Vance Wimpole (gnarly sceptre), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

that post can mix looks awes. i've heard (and love) 80% of that stuff, but will grab to hear the rest. here are a few things u should also track down. stuff w/Reebop Kwaku Baah and/or Rosco Gee (does that make me blasphemous?)

http://www.discogs.com/Unknown-Cases-Masimba-Bele/release/28572
(afro cosmic)

http://www.discogs.com/Zahara-Flight-Of-The-Spirit/release/1358534
(sorta jammy jazzy with fretless bass)

A. Roddick City (jaxon), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Jaxon--

Thanks for the recommended LPs--far from blasphemous as far as I'm concerned, I love the contributions of Baah and Gee (though especially on that first Phantom Band record). That Unknown Cases album looks exciting!

Hamildan--

I'd like to think you're right--but given that even later Can stuff is generally trashed even by respectable geeks, I have to operate from the assumption that I'm slightly crazy to think everyone who sleeps on this stuff is slightly crazy ; ) But! Please don't let a mix of mine prevent you from making a purchase to support an artist! I'll admit I favor the Liebezeit-centric tracks on that Eurythmics album, but it's definitely an album worth hearing if you like that era generally. I didn't know there was a reissue, wonder if it's got any outtakes or b-sides or whatever. . .

Willem, Pfunkboy, Trip Maker--

I hope you dig it--no guarantees!

Soundslike, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

here's the unknown cases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V7XaCpi05k

and here's a track from the zahara album.
http://www.robotsinheat.com/temp/TotalDune.mp3

i've been meaning to start a rosko/reebop s/d thread forever. maybe tomorrow.

A. Roddick City (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link

o, apparently Unknown Cases is ex members of Dunkelziffer

A. Roddick City (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Soundslike - Dont worry. I dig on the Can so much, I'll eventually buy the solo CDs. just working thought getting all the SACDs right now.

The best thing about late era Can is that you are always presently surprised, rather than disappointed. All gates are open has a classic Can groove.

also Holgers' gig at the roundhouse has made me venture further into solo can than just movies & Cannaxis.

Hamildan, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 08:40 (fourteen years ago) link

The best thing about late era Can is that you are always presently surprised, rather than disappointed. All gates are open has a classic Can groove

On the money. I voted for 'Can' (1979) as I'm enjoying it so much at the moment. I can't understand the bad rep this recd has - surely anyone who really rates, say, Future Days, would love this album?

Dr.C, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 09:00 (fourteen years ago) link

kneejerk prog disdain in julian cope's krautrocksampler has cast a long shadow over the later stuff

kamerad, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link

"Can" doesn't have a bad reputation, "Out of Reach" does. Most people agree "Can" was a return to some sort of form.

Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think any of their albums are particularly hated, apart from "Out of the Reach"... and, even then, hated by the band themselves mostly

Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh Ok, maybe I'm mistaken. But the sleevenotes for the SACD version refer to it not being liked much by Canfans - haven't got it to hand, but I'll check later. I'm gonna have to go up to Fopp later and get Rite Time, I think!

Dr.C, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Who wrote the sleevenotes? I suppose, in 1979, no-one was very interested in a new Can album.

Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I like "Can" better than Out Of Reach, Saw Delight or Flow Motion FWIW

someone who is ranked fairly highly in an army of poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

It's good, but then it's got that "Can Can" crap at the end, that ruins it a bit

Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I love Can Can. I'd rate Can and Saw Delight as the best 'late period' albums and Flow Motion probably the worst (although obv 'I Want More' is great). I haven't heard Out of Reach though - did that make it to SACD? I've never seen it.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

No, the band don't want it re-released. It's not too good, but it's not terrible either.

Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

'Can' would be top four Can albums for me, as long as you lop off the closing--I have to agree, "Can Can" is a pretty sad way to go out. But "Safe," that track is fantastic--especially the ominous swarm-of-locusts sound that slowly sneaks up through the track.

Speaking of late-Can, for any who're curious but haven't looked past 'Babaluma' (because of Julian Cope or whatever reason)--I also did a late-Can comp a while back, from the last 5 albums including 'Out of Reach' (which is almost as odd in its being-maligned-by-the-band as Kraftwerk re: their first several albums--just silly to be kept out of print, and definitely on par with at least 'Saw Delight' and 'Flow Motion'.)


Can – The Church of Latter-Day Can, Book One (1975-1979)

01. Can – Red Hot Indians [Landed, 1975] (5:38)
02. Can – Half Past One [Landed, 1975] (4:39)
03. Can – Smoke [Flow Motion, 1976] (5:20)
04. Can – I Want More [Flow Motion, 1976] (3:34)
05. Can – Animal Waves [Saw Delight, 1977] (15:30)
06. Can – Sunshine Day And Night [Saw Delight, 1977] (5:51)
07. Can – Give Me No Roses [Out of Reach, 1978] (5:21)
08. Can – One More Day [Out of Reach, 1978] (1:37)
09. Can – Serpentine [Out of Reach, 1978] (4:03)
10. Can – All Gates Open [Can, 1979] (8:19)
11. Can – Aspectacle [Can, 1979] (5:52)
12. Can – Safe [Can, 1979] (8:36)

[Total Time: 74:20]

I think on the whole I prefer the post-Can compilation, but there's a lot of great stuff on this one. [b]Get it here at Musicophilia[b]. (Both have streamable samples if you are too skittish to even download ; )

Soundslike, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Love "Give Me No Roses"!

Nuts, whole hazelnuts, HEEUUUUUUUURGGHHH! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

ACR totally ripped off that bassline from Aspectacle for one of their early-ish tracks. Can't bloody remember exactly which one though - Waterline possibly, or something off Sextet?

Dr.C, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey Soundslike, thx for those Church of Latter-Day Can mixes, had missed those the first time around. I'm definitely in the "don't know much beyond Babaluma" camp, so I'm looking forward to checking them out.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I gave another listen to Rite Time last night. It's not bad--Mooney makes the album, everybody else is pretty restrained.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't actually heard Out Of Reach in full or 'Can'. Must rectify that.
is it ok to post links to Can bootlegs i found on a blog?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree, I prefer Can to Saw Delight and Flow Motion.

Have yet to track down the Rite Time remaster, though.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I quite like Saw Delight,Animal Waves is a track ive always liked.
Im playing Out Of Reach now and quite enjoying it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Another vote for Delay 1968 here! Gonna spin it now!

Mooney >>>>>>>>> Suzuki!

I AM MALCOLM MOONEY!

The Sunburned Hand of Manfredd Man (Rombald), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

there hasnt been a malcolm vs damo poll has there?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

There's no need for one. It's obvious, ain't it?

The Sunburned Hand of Manfredd Man (Rombald), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

its obvious who would win

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i vote damo

bong hitzvah (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

The Can Live 71-77 set is pretty excellent-- I haven't heard it discussed too much for whatever reason.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

lotsa votes again

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

it's tago mago, if you add the previous poll

Zeno, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

also had original future days/tago mago pressings. polls results otm. my housemate is playing drums with damo in a fortnight. i ought to go...

meaulnes, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link

all the annoying handwringing upthread about "bamyasi"'s meaning crucially misses that it is not an "i" but a dotless "i" in Turkish: bamyası

...but can't fault the anglophones for not picking up on that subtle nuance though.

Top 3 vote-getters are in my contention for desert island discs with order fluctuating between Ege/Tago at the top, Future Days is a step lower but still god-tier.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Life just got more complicated:
Can’s Live Shows Will Be Heard at Last, Thanks to a Bootlegger in Big Pants
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/arts/music/can-live-albums.html?campaign_id=53&emc=edit_ms_20210514&instance_id=30896&nl=louder®i_id=81891736&segment_id=58137&te=1&user_id=f8fdcfc45acdadaba09de99d8bc20460

dow, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

POLLS just got more complicated

dow, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

Pants just got bigger

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 14 May 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

Absolutely love that they're on Bandcamp now because I never did get around to getting the remastered CDs from a decade back -- so I bought them through the site and now I have them both that way and properly streaming. (And per their Bandcamp page a few of those CDs were down to the last copies of whatever Mute US had around so hey.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:36 (two years ago) link

hopefully the quality is alright. I have the Live Box and it kicks ass but the recording is so grainy that I barely listen to it. hearing that the guy was walking around in some sort of Nathan Fielder-esque bootleg suit doesn't inspire confidence but they work a lotta magic with mastering these days...should be better than any of the boots out there I hope

frogbs, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link

it sounds great — genuinely surprised it's an amateur recording. maybe not exactly high definition, but it really puts you in the hall. Liebezeit is amazing on this, no surprise. unstoppable.

tylerw, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link

there's a clip, it sounds good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da6bXpkbwzs

global tetrahedron, Friday, 14 May 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link

And speaking of their Bandcamp: the remaining albums are now all up as of today, including Unlimited Edition and the 40th anniversary Tago Mago:

https://canofficial.bandcamp.com/music

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 May 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link


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