pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

ffs Whiney, putting slurs in square quotes does not make it acceptable to use them.

*scare

Sorry, mods are free to asterisk it out!

Just wave your dick in front of the offending words

Don’t wave your dick on a weekly Zoom sesh, though (or at least keep it out of frame)!

I read the link and it doesn’t link the terms at all, it’s a generalised and imo true comment about online music discussion

I can't imagine that ILM would be very alienating to a friendly newcomer (the discussion here is usually pretty good)... but I also can't imagine joining a Zoom chat full of strangers to discuss a Kenny Rogers album, so whatever floats one's boat.

I read the link and it doesn’t link the terms at all, it’s a generalised and imo true comment about online music discussion

I was going to disagree, then started questioning whether I could do so without arguing or mansplaining, then flew into a mental vortex.

^^typical

The thing about a Zoom chat is, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em.

...know when to wave a dick,
know when to run

I want to go on and talk about whether Kenny was a New Jersey

Huh, their Twitter feed is crazy active (multiple tweets per hour); but they’re tweeting out a mix of recent and older—from 2019, in some cases—articles & reviews.

I just clicked a link to an article about Joni Mitchell rarities assuming it was something to do with the collection released in the last few months but instead it was a link to an article from 2017 with a majority of dead YouTube links.

the palberta review today is dumb. they don't really sound much of anything like sleater-kinney aside from being an all-women guitar trio. it feels like an early pitchfork review where they didn't have many writers so sometimes they'd have a writer trying to write about something that was outside their frame of reference. but in this case the frame of reference is something that should be in the wheelhouse of any indie music critic. you could compare them to the raincoats and the slits and it would still be lazy and sexist but it would be more accurate than sleater-kinney. oh and the repetition absolutely works.

a week late but that listening club piece was co-written by (iiuc) a fairly long-term former ilxor

Nice of them to finally get around to reviewing that Trees box set now that it's already out of print.

I mean, it's a nice, thoughtful review, but about two months too late.

it's being re-pressed: https://treesearth.bandcamp.com/album/trees-50th-anniversary-edition

Not the CD version though.

rough! does seem like labels really are underestimating the demand for these sets — that Neil Archives box, the Richard & Linda Thompson thing, this ...

Yeah, seems to be a theme. Which I get, it's a weird time for physical media. I just get frustrated by the labels that won't press more after realizing their projections fell short.

why are we "now-fabled"? ILM still exists

ha, jokes on you, board was locked years ago and you've just been talking to yourself

jon I feel you, some of my very favorite albums of the last few years I don’t even own because they’re OOP and expensive as heck. it just feels weird.

otoh CDs esp from indie labels seems to be pretty cheap these days?

while they’re out there

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ILRYP5iV7ME/UWnVv54aYsI/AAAAAAAACIE/vW6m3DXJzH8/s1600/st-elsewhere_tommy-westphall-snow-globe.jpg

rare photo of treeship "posting" to "ILM"

it feels like that sometimes tbh.

true, not sure what it says about me that I imagined all these people with awful taste

i think you'd have to be a real weirdo to sign up for a zoom listening club with strangers.

no disrespect to the people discussed in that article. but message board posting feels more, um, like something regular to do.

i mean, if it helps people feel less alone it's ok. i feel bad about those posts now.

jon I feel you, some of my very favorite albums of the last few years I don’t even own because they’re OOP and expensive as heck. it just feels weird.

Yeah, it definitely feels weird. Things seem super limited these days and if you don't order the instant they go on pre-sale, that's it, you've missed it already. Which seems... short-sighted, to say the least.

i think you'd have to be a real weirdo to sign up for a zoom listening club with strangers.

― treeship., Tuesday, January 26, 2021 3:49 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I actually like the idea a lot, but would probably be too anxious/self-conscious to actually do it.

I'm listening to the Palberta album now, and I agree it sounds nothing like any Sleater-Kinney I've ever heard (though perhaps I've never heard "early, self-titled Sleater-Kinney").

lol wasn’t Chatroulette exactly that?

xp

tbf there will likely be equal amounts of jerking it

I’m frustrated by artists and labels who won’t do a CD issue but will do an LP run, but I know no one else cares.

Now you might be wrong about that

(That said, vast majority of my music purchases are strictly digital via Bandcamp these days.)

OK - you and me against the world.

I’m frustrated by artists and labels who won’t do a CD issue but will do an LP run, but I know no one else cares.

― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:34 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I care, too! I was actually contemplating buying that Trees box and, in an unlikely turn of events, the very good Pitchfork review is what convinced me I needed to buy it, only to find that it's already sold out. Oh well

I would like to see more CD runs too. AIUI the profit margin on LPs is so much better that lots of labels see a CD run as a load of extra work for a reduced return, but the (apparently) artificially short print runs on CD issues is bewildering.

friend of mine who owned a small label once told me

if you press 1,000 you'll sell 400

if you press a 500 "limited edition" you'll sell out

also they end up with houses or apartments just filled with boxes and boxes and boxes of used CDs

i probably took like 600 cds to the dump of my old band

pitchfork loves to give "underrated workhorses" a 6.9

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friend of mine who owned a small label once told me

if you press 1,000 you'll sell 400

if you press a 500 "limited edition" you'll sell out

I'll find out for myself next month...hope your friend is right! (My break-even point is somewhere in the 225-250 copy range, but obviously if I only sell that many I'll have a roomful left over, which will suck from a living-space standpoint.)

I mean, of course printing any run of physical media in 2021 is a gamble. I get it. And I totally can understand why a small label wouldn't want to take on the risk. It's fair. But in my experience, it's even mid-size labels that presumably have warehouses and distribution channels that are printing tiny runs.

My annoyance kicks in when I read or hear about an album that came out two months ago, only find out it's already out-of-print and going for ridiculous money on discogs on both LP and CD format. I just don't see how that serves any artist to have something go out of print that quickly. I'm not talking about some obscure record from 17 years ago that I can't track down, I'm talking albums that are still currently in their promotion period, getting published reviews, that are already completely out-of-print. I don't see how that works well for anyone.

it’s another case where the review is better than the score but peewee deserves better