(Also, I briefly worked in online music journalism very long ago, and so I guess I wish it were “better” or different today in some ways… but I know that’s a big “who cares.”)
― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 01:47 (three years ago) link
Feels very weird to see a link to this very website in a Pitchfork article:
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/start-a-virtual-listening-club-itll-change-your-life/
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
Congrats, we're "now-fabled"
― jaymc, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link
😎
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link
amazing that the first thing the pfrk reader sees when clicking through is this thread title
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link
We’re no Steve Hoffman tho.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link
it's still early
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link
From the heyday of now-fabled message boards to contemporary Twitter threads, online music discussions tend to descend quickly into competition or argument, mansplaining or dick-waving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PakAiTZWAs
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link
ILXor being called out as a cesspool of toxic masculinity by the site that said Ginger Spice looks like a (slur redacted), you truly love to see it
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
one thing any pitchfork reader should know is that everyone on ILM knows MUCH more about music than any pitchfork reader, and that everyone on ILM thinks that
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link
we gotta stir things up around here, this could be the big influx the ILM community needs
i'm just goofing, sorry. it is funny, though, that anyone clicking that link might find a thread with this title, with over 17,000 posts on it
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
ffs Whiney, putting slurs in square quotes does not make it acceptable to use them.
― braised cod, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link
*scare
Sorry, mods are free to asterisk it out!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link
Just wave your dick in front of the offending words
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link
Don’t wave your dick on a weekly Zoom sesh, though (or at least keep it out of frame)!
― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link
I read the link and it doesn’t link the terms at all, it’s a generalised and imo true comment about online music discussion
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link
I can't imagine that ILM would be very alienating to a friendly newcomer (the discussion here is usually pretty good)... but I also can't imagine joining a Zoom chat full of strangers to discuss a Kenny Rogers album, so whatever floats one's boat.
― one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link
I was going to disagree, then started questioning whether I could do so without arguing or mansplaining, then flew into a mental vortex.
― Inside there's a box and that box has another box within (Sund4r), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link
^^typical
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link
The thing about a Zoom chat is, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link
...know when to wave a dick,know when to run
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link
I want to go on and talk about whether Kenny was a New Jersey
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link
Huh, their Twitter feed is crazy active (multiple tweets per hour); but they’re tweeting out a mix of recent and older—from 2019, in some cases—articles & reviews.
I just clicked a link to an article about Joni Mitchell rarities assuming it was something to do with the collection released in the last few months but instead it was a link to an article from 2017 with a majority of dead YouTube links.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 21 January 2021 09:28 (three years ago) link
the palberta review today is dumb. they don't really sound much of anything like sleater-kinney aside from being an all-women guitar trio. it feels like an early pitchfork review where they didn't have many writers so sometimes they'd have a writer trying to write about something that was outside their frame of reference. but in this case the frame of reference is something that should be in the wheelhouse of any indie music critic. you could compare them to the raincoats and the slits and it would still be lazy and sexist but it would be more accurate than sleater-kinney. oh and the repetition absolutely works.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link
a week late but that listening club piece was co-written by (iiuc) a fairly long-term former ilxor
― rob, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link
Nice of them to finally get around to reviewing that Trees box set now that it's already out of print.
I mean, it's a nice, thoughtful review, but about two months too late.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
it's being re-pressed: https://treesearth.bandcamp.com/album/trees-50th-anniversary-edition
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link
Not the CD version though.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link
rough! does seem like labels really are underestimating the demand for these sets — that Neil Archives box, the Richard & Linda Thompson thing, this ...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link
Yeah, seems to be a theme. Which I get, it's a weird time for physical media. I just get frustrated by the labels that won't press more after realizing their projections fell short.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link
why are we "now-fabled"? ILM still exists
― treeship., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link
ha, jokes on you, board was locked years ago and you've just been talking to yourself
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link
jon I feel you, some of my very favorite albums of the last few years I don’t even own because they’re OOP and expensive as heck. it just feels weird.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link
otoh CDs esp from indie labels seems to be pretty cheap these days?
― brimstead, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link
while they’re out there
― brimstead, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ILRYP5iV7ME/UWnVv54aYsI/AAAAAAAACIE/vW6m3DXJzH8/s1600/st-elsewhere_tommy-westphall-snow-globe.jpg
rare photo of treeship "posting" to "ILM"
― rob, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link
it feels like that sometimes tbh.
― treeship., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link
true, not sure what it says about me that I imagined all these people with awful taste
― rob, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link
i think you'd have to be a real weirdo to sign up for a zoom listening club with strangers.
― treeship., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
no disrespect to the people discussed in that article. but message board posting feels more, um, like something regular to do.
i mean, if it helps people feel less alone it's ok. i feel bad about those posts now.
― treeship., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link
Yeah, it definitely feels weird. Things seem super limited these days and if you don't order the instant they go on pre-sale, that's it, you've missed it already. Which seems... short-sighted, to say the least.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link
i think you'd have to be a real weirdo to sign up for a zoom listening club with strangers.― treeship., Tuesday, January 26, 2021 3:49 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― treeship., Tuesday, January 26, 2021 3:49 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I actually like the idea a lot, but would probably be too anxious/self-conscious to actually do it.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link
I'm listening to the Palberta album now, and I agree it sounds nothing like any Sleater-Kinney I've ever heard (though perhaps I've never heard "early, self-titled Sleater-Kinney").
― You have treated my messenger with contempt. (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link
lol wasn’t Chatroulette exactly that?
― brimstead, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:47 (three years ago) link
xp
tbf there will likely be equal amounts of jerking it
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link
I’m frustrated by artists and labels who won’t do a CD issue but will do an LP run, but I know no one else cares.
― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link