if there's a better compiler than Bob Stanley out there, I'd sure like to know...

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The Cafe Exil comp is fantastic, really does take you on a journey.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link

Drunk thought: I wonder how long Bob (and collaborators) spend compiling these?

(I'm not really sure how widely he can draw from?)

djh, Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link

I did discuss an idea with him (online) which happened about 2 years later. I don't know if he'd already thought of it before, but.

Mark G, Sunday, 17 January 2021 10:15 (three years ago) link

anyone else stuck between not wanting to buy CDS any more but finding it hard to justify £29 for the LP? :-(

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Sunday, 17 January 2021 11:01 (three years ago) link

I’m not quite at the ‘no more CDs’ stage but yeah the price is driving my format choice in the case of these Ace comps

Jeff W, Sunday, 17 January 2021 13:30 (three years ago) link

New comp done with Tim Burgess

https://acerecords.co.uk/tim-burgess-bob-stanley-present-tim-peaks-songs-for-a-late-night-diner

Finally picked this one up at the end of last year and it's so great - concept/execution etc. Hadn't given ISAN much thought for 15 years but in context it's perfect.

The second CD of The Trip *still* gets a monthly airing, pretty much

technopolis, Sunday, 17 January 2021 13:58 (three years ago) link

I've managed to avoid paying £29 for the doubles, but yeah.

One on ebay was £12, because the seller "was expecting something else" when buying it. Nm, his loss, my gain (it's great - the three-day-week one).

Mark G, Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

> Hadn't given ISAN much thought for 15 years but in context it's perfect.

that track is about 23 years old (which is about 8 years older then i'd've guessed) was a single in '98

koogs, Monday, 18 January 2021 10:05 (three years ago) link

Think I first heard it on the excellent Blue Room mix cd that came with the October 2002 edition of Muzik magazine

https://www.discogs.com/Chris-Coco-Rob-Da-Bank-The-Blue-Room-70-Mins-Of-Lazy-Space-Grooves/release/63182

groovypanda, Monday, 18 January 2021 10:56 (three years ago) link

ISAN are worth keeping up with. I like this from last year: https://wiaiwya.bandcamp.com/album/nothing-picked-and-placed-nowhere

djh, Monday, 18 January 2021 13:23 (three years ago) link

Thanks - will investigate. I've just realised how much ISAN product there is from the past 20 years...

Cafe Exil also now acquired and is a joy

Another favourite from a few years back is: https://acerecords.co.uk/saint-etienne-present-songs-for-the-carnegie-deli. You sense he could churn these out in his sleep, but the hit rate here is incredibly high and it's low-key glorious throughout

I think my very favourite Bobcomps are those where he's trying to evoke an incredibly vague ill-defined mood, rather than the sort of 'primer in genre X' ones. But maybe they're all this really, to some extent

technopolis, Monday, 18 January 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link

My favs of this recentish crop that I haven't seen receive much acclaim: State Of The Union (the squares react to the social changes of the 1960's, in a liberal rather than reactionary mold - semi socially conscious tracks from Sinatra, Dean Martin, Elvis) and 76 In The Shade (very much in that vague mood setting technopolis mentions, just these lazy, hazy grooves from all sorts of mid 70's sources).

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 10:50 (three years ago) link

I'm super jealous of Bob Stanley, and dig what he does.

Is there really almost anyone else who gets to do what he does, these days? Make comps (not like Numero does, of mostly-unheard, primary-source stuff, but of good stuff of all levels of known-ness) that get pressed into physical media? I've got a few dozen Musicophilia mixes I'd love to see go legit like that...

Soundslike, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Oh hello

I'm working on a compilation of 98bpm tracks, all from 1990/91 - hypnotic, post -acid, neo-psych (at least that's how I hear it), ... does this sound even have a name? Things like this by One Dove... it'll be beautiful. https://t.co/nnxDVJXpZH

— bob stanley (@rocking_bob) April 13, 2021

groovypanda, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:30 (three years ago) link

street soul revival is firmly underway!

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 11:54 (three years ago) link

is that track Stanley posted street soul?

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 09:27 (three years ago) link

I feel like I should know the answer to this ... but is there significance to 98bpm?

djh, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 09:35 (three years ago) link

Was a bit of a thing at the time

http://www.oakenfoldmixes.com/press-articles/mixmag-october-1995

In 1990, Paul Oakenfold bailed on house music. "The scene split, the scene went rave and I didn't feel comfortable with rave music. The noises were more cheesy and we were more song-oriented. Where I wanted to go was keep the energy and go downtempo. We'd be caning it for four years, we were ready to go out on a different vibe.
"That's the kind of person I am musically. I could have made a fortune out of being a big rave DJ - I played all those Biology's and Sunrise's - but it wasn't about that for me."
So began his 98bpm movement, a combination of dance grooves, indie rock and hip hop that ended up finally reappearing as indie dance with old Future regulars, the Happy Mondays and Stone Roses, at the helm. And on his releases as Movement 98, top slowed up groovers like 'Joy And Heartbreak'.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 09:40 (three years ago) link

Thanks groovypanda.

I was trying to work out in my head if there would be a particular physical sensation related to it. It's sort of top of resting heart rate or maybe bottom of moderately exercising heart rate in a young un'.

djh, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 10:45 (three years ago) link

"Joy And Heartbreak" is such an incredibly perfect song

boxedjoy, Thursday, 15 April 2021 09:15 (three years ago) link

Anyway, to answer your question, Jon Savage's latest collection 1972-1976 is one I'm currently on. It might be because it's the only correct reissue of the Faust polydor 7" of "So Far", um, so far.

Mark G, Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

Waltz Darling doesn't fit genre-wise but the BPM and the era work just about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOGX-x9UlLs

piscesx, Friday, 16 April 2021 01:05 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

New from Ace Records: ‘Chocktaw Ridge’, compiled by Bob with Martin Green
https://acerecords.co.uk/choctaw-ridge-new-fables-from-the-american-south-1968-1973

Jeff W, Sunday, 13 June 2021 08:38 (two years ago) link

Best songs from Elvis' 60s movies. That's what a colleague of mine reckons will be a Bob Stanley compilation project in the future.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 June 2021 09:31 (two years ago) link

Followed by the best songs from Cliff Richard movies.

speaking the language of goals, going forward (Matt #2), Sunday, 13 June 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link

Lol

AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 June 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

A guy's gotta pay the rent.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 June 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

remembered the 98bpm chat earlier this week and the mention of a compilation being put together.
well, it has just been announced :

https://acerecords.co.uk/fell-from-the-sun-1

mark e, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:41 (one year ago) link

He has an Oh Brother I haven't heard yet too. JUst getting the John Leckie one starting at the moment.

Stevolende, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

So that new comp is about out -- meantime Bob had a few separate single-artist/producer comps out over the past few months as well:

https://www.acerecords.co.uk/the-more-things-change-film-tv-studio-work-1968-1973

https://www.acerecords.co.uk/looks-like-stormy-weather-1969-1975

https://www.acerecords.co.uk/psychedelic-soul-produced-by-norman-whitfield

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 July 2022 03:51 (one year ago) link

Loving 'Fell from the Sun' and adding more tracks to it. It's like a bit like a sequel to this all-time great "Volume 1" comp that never had a volume 2:
https://i.discogs.com/gxfEk4ZuG1E1cB4JfwPdaPZKsWIf5PHjNTBCsIvByOE/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:599/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE0NDUz/NS0xMTc3NTg5OTU2/LmpwZWc.jpeg
https://www.discogs.com/release/144535-Various-Classic-Balearic-Mastercuts-Volume-1

Spencer Chow, Friday, 1 July 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

I wish Movement 98 "Joy & Heartbreak" was on it, it would slot in perfectly

boxedjoy, Friday, 1 July 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

Fell from the Sun is so good. Just spent a pleasant Saturday morning listening & reading the sleevenotes (status: fully ascended Mojo dad) which have a nice 'Rock Family Trees: Chart Show edition' feel.

(Feeling old moment - realising we're twice as far away from this stuff as this stuff is from his 76 in the Shade comp.)

woof, Saturday, 2 July 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Two thirds through Let's Do It and the one big complaint I have so far is the lack of coverage of Latin music, which was surely very influential to this period (enough for Bing Crosby to record "South America, Take It Away"); so far the only references to it I've seen in there are a British bandleader claiming to have lived in Brazil and Duke Ellington recording a latin novelty song, which is shown as evidence that he was in a creative slump. Hoping he'll give Bossa Nova its due at least.

There's also a bit of a problem in making it about both US and UK pop. I get why he does it - UK pop is underexplored and a book solely about it would sell less - but it's really not fair, these huge developments in the US and then every time it goes back to Britain the scenario feels much the same as anywhere else in Europe (in fact I think histories of pre-Rock French and Italian Pop might have more juice!).

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 7 October 2022 11:01 (one year ago) link

Excellent points, Daniel. I read it over the summer and if memory serves, there's a paragraph at the very beginning, possibly in the foreword, about how there was clearly a story to tell about non-English-speaking pop but for the purposes of the book he'd restricted himself (and his comprehensive research) to UK/US pop.

giraffe, Friday, 7 October 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

I think that's fair and certainly a book on all pop worldwide in the pre-rock era would be far too daunting, but it doesn't imo let him off the hook for the latin thing, as the influences of mambo, latin jazz and bossa nova to give just a few examples were huge on English speaking pop of that time.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 7 October 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

New punk-era compilation, Winter of Discontent, about to drop:

https://acerecords.co.uk/winter-of-discontent

lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 5 January 2023 11:09 (one year ago) link

Post-punk rather than punk.

Aw naw, no' an Antonioni wan oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 January 2023 12:17 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

More goodness on the way: https://acerecords.co.uk/tribal-rites-of-the-new-saturday-night

giraffe, Monday, 22 May 2023 12:12 (ten months ago) link

That looks pretty solid!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:13 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, these things just keep getting better and better. Wonder if Ace has a Bob Stanley Plan you can sign up for.

henry s, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:57 (ten months ago) link

Looks amazing.

Is there a site where all these Saint Etienne/Bob Stanley comps listed? It's tough to keep up!

omar little, Monday, 22 May 2023 15:59 (ten months ago) link

Here you go: http://www.saintetiennedisco.com/index2.html

Tim, Monday, 22 May 2023 20:57 (ten months ago) link

four weeks pass...

he's got a new Bee Gees bio out which sounds quite good

Number None, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:44 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

Various Artists
Latin Freestyle New York / Miami 1983 - 1992
Ace

Another stunning compilation compiled by Bob Stanley. Latin Freestyle was a dizzying, passionate, ultra- modern music. It was the aural equivalent of a can of thirst-quenching Quatro or a Spanish Harlem dance-off, and it became the electronically constructed bridge between disco and house. Freestyle grew out of the electro sound of the early 80s, combined clean staccato rhythms with morse code synth hooks, and topped them off with emotive, usually female, frequently Latina vocals. There was plenty more going on besides: proto- house piano lines, Cuban percussion, high emotion and synth hooks to die for. Put together and annotated by Bob Stanley (who also compiled the acclaimed The Daisy Age and Fell From The Sun), Latin Freestyle is the first compilation to cover the whole gamut of Freestyle from its early 80s breakthrough to its early 90s revival. So many classics... Lisa Lisa made the UK top ten with the 808 joy of ‘I Wonder If I Take You Home’. Stacey Q’s cosmically great ‘Two Of Hearts’ came out in 1986, while 1987 saw the likes of Company B’s ‘Fascinated’ and Exposé’s ‘Point Of No Return’ become huge UK club hits. Today, Freestyle is a scene with a solid collector’s market, and rarities like Janelle’s ‘Don’t Be Shy’ sell for hundreds of dollars. It’s a classic summer soundtrack, finally condensed in one Ace Records compilation – Latin Freestyle.

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 22 July 2023 11:15 (eight months ago) link

I approve. Some good choices in there. Interesting that he went with "Let's Go" by Nocera which is slightly less known than her "Summertime, Summertime," but I love both. He went with all female singers, which is a choice. There are two or three Cynthia tracks I'd pick before "Thief of Heart," but there are no losers here.

I would have a hard time choosing only that number of tracks for an all-encompassing freestyle comp, even going with just one track per artist.

Josefa, Saturday, 22 July 2023 13:53 (eight months ago) link

Looking again at his 16 selections on this comp, I think my own freestyle comp would include exactly eight of those 16 tracks. And then I could come up with eight better ones.

Alfred to thread. I know he’s posted a best of freestyle list here.

Josefa, Saturday, 22 July 2023 18:01 (eight months ago) link

How's the Bee Gees book?

I was kind of thinking "It's Bob! Maybe I've just not really got the Bee Gees and this might convince me otherwise?" but the excerpt in the Guardian didn't convince me to part with money.

djh, Sunday, 23 July 2023 19:46 (eight months ago) link

I enjoyed the Bee Gees book a great deal, their story is unusual and interesting, sometimes bewildering and sometimes sad. I thought I knew a bit about the Bee Gees but didn't know the half of it. IT looks like a thick book but it skips along at a pace, there's a lot of Bee Gees to get through. I am pleased that he gives proper attention to the brothers' production work in the 80s.

Bob observes at the start that the Bee Gees have never really been a fashionable name to drop, haven't been the subject of much of a critical re-evaluation (compared to The Beach Boys or The Kinks, both of whom have had periods in and out of fashion). He doesn't ever really get to why he thinks that is, aside from a few observations about how they never really fitted in to the pop world, and often seemed to shy away from any kind of cutting edge. I'm quite glad the book doesn't give a direct answer to that question, but I'd pay to read Bob music on why the Bee Gees seem immune to being a cool name to drop.

Tim, Monday, 24 July 2023 16:04 (eight months ago) link

Thanks Tim.

djh, Monday, 24 July 2023 20:17 (eight months ago) link


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