List some of your favorite records that turn 20 this year

I wasn't listening to these at the time, but glad I belatedly discovered them:

Destroyer - Streethawk: A Seduction
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Ellen Allien - Flieg Mit Ellen Allien
Mihaly Dresch - Quiet As It Is

Three of my all time favorites were released in 2001

Low - Things We Lost In The Fire
The Clientele - Suburban Light
Gillian Welch - Time (The Revelator) (mentioned above)

Point does sound of its time but I think it's aged pretty well, more than Phantasma at least, which I like but is definitely something of a time capsule.

well I think Fantasma was definitely intended to sound that was, felt like the last "Shibuya-kei" album anyone ever needed to make

Pärson Sound - Pärson Sound

This was also the high P2P era when vast tracts of previously innacessible music became explorable.

Kylie Minogue - Fever
Aaliyah - Aaliyah
Björk - Vespertine

... now feels like some kind of untouchable trifecta of vocalmachinepop? I think I basically measure everything that's come since against these three. I struggle to think of any album that's grown more in my esteem since release than Fever

ADULT. - Resuscitation
Felix da Housecat - Kittenz and thee Glitz
Ladytron - 604
The Human League - Secrets

ELECTROCLASH etc. I was completely obsessed with Ladytron at the time as my (then) New Perfect Favourite Band; their subsequent records sounded cleaner and sharper but they were more fun here and just slightly too blank to be twee. Resuscitation IS cleaner and sharper though and sounds all the better for it now. Secrets got a bit buried but is bubbly luxury and comfortably one of the... 3? best HL albums

Also:

The Other People Place - Lifestyles of the Laptop Café
Jim O'Rourke - Insignificance
Stina Nordenstam - This is Stina Nordenstam
Stereolab - Sound-Dust
Kelis - Wanderland

... all still sound glorious

Weezer - Green album
Thursday - Full Collapse
Saves the Day - Stay What You Are

I would say Point made an obvious but very strong case for the promise of digital audio editing that not too many other artists explored to the same degree, in that there's a real ambiguity between looping, quantizing and programming that ultimately retains an element of live tracking and always feels rooted in "performance". It was pretty singular at the time afaik, ans still is. I don't think it's aged badly at all.

Still my favorite record of his/theirs fwiw

Some that haven't been mentionned:

Basement Jaxx - Rooty
Miss Kittin & The Hacker - First Album
Missy Elliott - Miss E... So Addictive

yeah Point is still my favorite too - I don't think it's aged poorly exactly, rather it fits into this scene sometimes referred to as "folktronica" which doesn't really exist anymore

Point seems too singularly unique to be filed under 'folktronica', or 'indietronica' for that matter. You are right in that both don't seem to exist any more. We could do a thread because there are some really good albums that came out under that banner.

Insignificance and Vespertine two 20-year olds that are way high on my all-time list for sure.

Dolly Parton - Little Sparrow
Life Without Buildings - Any Other City
Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American
Destiny's Child - Survivor
Now It's Overhead
Emm Gryner - Girl Versions
Rufus Wainwright - Poses
Lucinda Williams - Essence
Bill Janovitz - Up Here
Janet Jackson - All For You

20 years old this week

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"...that turn 21 this year"

Bertrand Burgalat - The Sssound Of Mmmusic (06.10.2000)

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The Space Cossacks - tsar wars (01 July 2000)

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Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein is 20 this year. *sigh*

2002 Top Ten, as chosen at the time:

Wire - Read & Burn 01/02
Reindeer Section - Son Of Evil Reindeer
Mestar - Porcupine
Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
AC Acoustics - O
Polak - Rubbernecking
Max Eider - Hotel Figueroa
Cinerama - Torino
Wilco - Yankee Foxtrot Hotel
Caitlin Cary - While You Weren't Looking

20 years on, I clearly overrated Mestar (an obscure NZ band though I still like them) and Cinerama (though that album is the last thing from Gedge I care about), that Max Eider is solid but he's done better and I can't remember the last time I listened to Interpol (though I still like that album). In particular, those EPs from Wire are still thrilling and Polak (ex-Adorable) are criminally unknown.

Other albums that turn 20 this year that I still dig:
Neko Case - Blacklisted
The Black Watch - Jiggery-Pokery
Astrid Williamson - Carnation

Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
Iron & Wine - The Creek Drank the Cradle
Tom Waits - Alice
Tom Waits - Blood Money
Damien Rice - O
Paul Westerberg - Stereo
Koop - Waltz for Koop
Aimee Mann - Lost in Space

Sigur Ros - ( )
Jets To Brazil - Perfecting Loneliness
Sonic Youth - Murray Street
Trail of Dead - Source Tags & Codes
N.E.R.D. - In Search of
El-P - Fantastic Damage
The Streets - Original Pirate Material
Missy Elliot - Under Construction
Opeth - Deliverance
Clipse - Lord Willin'
Comets On Fire - Field Recordings from the Sun

Boards of Canada - Geogaddi
Lambchop - Is a Woman
Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man - Out of Season
Low - Trust

(basically everyone released their best album in 2002 and it was autumn-flavoured)

Xinlisupreme - Tomorrow Never Knows & Murder License (and then nothing, for years and years)

Neko Case - Blacklisted

^this one for sure

Nothing else coming immediately to mind. Lean year?

stuff I liked at the time, not so much now:

Of Montreal - Aldhil's Arboretum (somewhat embarrassingly the first thread I ever started on this board was about this album, not going to link it)
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
The Apples in Stereo - Velocity of Sound
Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow
Astrobotnia - Part 01
Meshuggah - Nothing

stuff I liked at the time and still like:

Sonic Youth - Murray Street

stuff I discovered a bit later and still like:

F.M. Knives - Useless & Modern
Mihaly Dresch Quartet / Archie Shepp - Hungarian Bebop
Ellen Allien - Weiss.Mix
Opeth - Deliverance

ILX had a poll that year: The ILX Readers Poll 2002 - RECORDS OF THE YEAR

1. THE STREETS - Original Pirate Material (217 points)
2. VARIOUS ARTISTS - 2 Many DJs: As Heard On Radio Soulwax Part 2 (110 points)
3. SLEATER-KINNEY - One Beat (70 points)
4. VARIOUS ARTISTS - Boom Selection Issue-01 (64 points)
5. BOARD OF CANADA - Geogaddi (63 points)
6. FARBEN - Textstar (59 points)
7. WILCO - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (58 points)
8=. LOW - Trust
MISSY ELLIOT - Under Construction
SONIC YOUTH - Murray Street (all 55 points)
11. THE DELGADOS - Hate (54 points)
12. FLAMING LIPS - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots (52)
13. THE BOOKS - Thought For Food (50)
14. INTERPOL - Turn On The Bright Lights (48)
15. DJ SHADOW - The Private Press (47)
16. METRO AREA - Metro Area (44)
17. TOM WAITS - Alice (43)
18. BLACKALICIOUS - Blazing Arrow (42)
19. SAINT ETIENNE - Finisterre (38)
20. SIGUR ROS - () (37)
21. MY COMPUTER - Vulnerabilia (35)
22. BEACHWOOD SPARKS - Make The Cowboy Robots Cry (32)

23=. IMMORTAL - Sons Of Northern Darkness
MAX TUNDRA - Mastered By Guy At The Exchange
NEKO CASE - Blacklisted
PAULINA RUBIO - Border Girl (30 each)

27. VARIOUS ARTISTS - The Best Bootlegs In The World...Ever (29)

28= BLACK DICE - Beaches And Canyons
ROCKET FROM THE TOMBS - The Day The Earth Met The Rocket From The Tombs (26 each)

30=. ANDREW WK - I Get Wet
VARIOUS ARTISTS - Hustle! (25 each)

32=. AND YOU WILL KNOW US BY THE TRAIL OF DEAD - Source Tags And Codes
THE BEES - Sunshine Hit Me (23 each)

34=. BETH GIBBONS AND RUSTIN MAN - Out of Season
RECLOOSE - Cardiology
VARIOUS ARTISTS - Total 4 (22 each)

37=. BALLBOY - A Guide For The Daylight Hours
EKKHARD EHLERS - Plays
GOLDEN BOY/MISS KITTIN - Or
MEKONS - Oooh!
NINA NASTASIA - The Blackened Air
PRIMAL SCREAM - Evil Heat
SPOON - Kill The Moonlight
THE NOTWIST - Neon Golden (20 each)

45=. DJ YODA - How To Cut And Paste Vol.2
MONTGOLFIER BROTHERS - The World Is Flat
UNDERWORD - 100 Days Off (18 each)

48=. A CERTAIN RATIO - Early
ANTIPOP CONSORTIUM - Arryhthmia
ASTROBOTNIA - Part 1
BRYAN FERRY - Frantic
DEERHOOF - Reveille
NERD - In Search Of...
OUTHUD - S.T.R.E.E.T.D.A.D.
PREFUSE 73 - 92 vs 02
SUGABABES - Angels With Dirty Faces (15 each)

57. DAVID HOLMES - Come Get It I Got It (14)

58=. DIGITAL - Dubzilla
LADYTRON - Light And Magic
ROYSKOPP - Melody AM (12 each)

61. CLIPSE - Lord Willin' (11)

62=. ELVIS COSTELLO - When I Was Cruel
WIRE - Read And Burn 01 (10)

Of the list Beth Gibbons and Rustin Man is my pick.

Totally forgot about that Beachwood Sparks EP. Love those guys but had no idea they got any ILM love at all. Kind of wild to see them place so much higher than, say, Clipse or Underworld.

Two that haven't been mentioned:

Heathen, David Bowie
Walking With Thee, Clinic

Bed - Spacebox
Bowness/Chilvers - California, Norfolk
Dictaphone - m=addiction
Echolyn - Mei
Headphone - Work in Progress
Don Li - Live Vols 1 and 2
The Notwist - Neon Golden
Frankie Sparo - Welcome Crummy Mystics
Tape - Opera
The White Birch - Star is Just A Sun
Susuma Yokota - The Boy and the Tree

immer
all that glitters
cardiology
southern hummingbird
my way

Everything mentioned so far is fine but you’re missing the most important album of 2002:

BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE - YOU FORGOT IT IN PEOPLE

Most people think of it as a 2003 album, though since it wasn’t released worldwide until then.

Albums I liked then, that I still play now:

Jim O'Rourke - Insignificance (released November 2001 in the US, but didn't hit the UK until early 2002)
Solomon Burke - Don't Give Up On Me
Herrmann & Kleine - Our Noise

ballads
sheer hellish miasma
suicide invoice
plays

jun ray song chang

Is it really deemed too taxing to include the artist's names with these posts? If so, lie down, save your strength, and consult a physician.

Greatest Hits

hard to believe it's classic rock nowadays

I found my contemporaneous list of my favorite albums of 2002 on my PC:

1. The Party Of Helicopters - Space...And How Sweet It Was (Troubleman Unlimited)
2. Theatre Of Tragedy - Assembly (Nuclear Blast)
3. Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf (Interscope)
4. Ikara Colt - Chat And Business (Epitaph)
5. Kidneythieves - Zerøspace (Extasy)
6. Andrew W. K. - I Get Wet (Island)
7. Chevelle - Wonder What's Next (Epic)
8. Dälek - From Filthy Tongue Of Gods And Griots (Ipecac)
9. High On Fire - Surrounded By Thieves (Relapse)
10. Manda & The Marbles - More Seduction (Go-Kart)
11. Lacuna Coil - Comalies (Century Media)
12. Hatebreed - Perseverance (Universal)
13. Death Of Marat - All Eyes Open (Stickfigure)
14. Speedealer - Second Sight (Palm Pictures)
15. Soilwork - Natural Born Chaos (Nuclear Blast)
16. Filter - The Amalgamut (Reprise)
17. Paradise Lost - Symbol Of Life (Koch)
18. Sheavy – Synchronized (The Music Cartel)
19. The Heroine Sheiks - Siamese Pipe (Rubric)
20. The Used - The Used (Reprise)
21. Jucifer - I Name You Destroyer (Velocette)
22. In Flames - Reroute To Remain (Nuclear Blast)
23. The Paper Chase - Hide The Kitchen Knives (Beatville)
24. Dead Poetic - Four Wall Blackmail (Tooth & Nail)
25. Paul Westerberg - Stereo (Vagrant)
26. Coinmonster - Tilton Johnson (Bandaloop)
27. Shadows Fall - The Art Of Balance (Century Media)
28. N.E.R.D. - In Search Of... (Virgin)
29. Steve Von Till - If I Should Fall To The Field (Neurot)
30. The Jazz June - Better Off Without Air (Initial)
31. Foo Fighters - One By One (RCA)
32. Steve Earle – Jerusalem (Artemis)
33. Otto's Daughter – Renew (Angelwhore)
34. The Black Keys - The Big Come Up (Alive)
35. Lo-Hi - Say It More (Tiger Style)
36. Thee Michelle Gun Elephant - Rodeo Tandem Beat Specter (Alive)
37. Audioslave – Audioslave (Epic)
38. The Walkmen - Everyone Who Pretended to Like Me is Gone (Star Time)
39. Medication - Prince Valium (Locomotive)
40. The Giraffes - Helping You Help Yourself (Ape Sauce)
41. Vader – Revelations (Metal Blade)
42. Killingbird – Killingbird (2K Sounds)
43. Discharge – Discharge (Sanctuary)
44. Flogging Molly - Drunken Lullabies (Side One Dummy)
45. CKY - Infiltrate, Destroy, Rebuild (Island)
46. Arch Enemy - Wages Of Sin (Century Media)
47. Bluebird - Hot Blood (Dim Mak)
48. Otep - Sevas Tra (Capitol)
49. Loudermilk - The Red Album (Dreamworks)
50. Electric Wizard - Let Us Prey (The Music Cartel)

These are albums I evidently didn't get into until later and I really wish I could put them higher on this list then, say, Audioslave...

Agalloch - The Mantle
Johnny Cash - American IV: The Man Comes Around
Dälek - From Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots
Mclusky - Mclusky Do Dallas
Reverend Bizarre - In the Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend
The Streets - Original Pirate Material
The Mooney Suzuki - Electric Sweat
The Sounds - Living in America

Actually McClusky and The Sounds are two of my favorite albums of any year! How sad I didn't know it when they came out...

Party of Helicopters!

Everything mentioned so far is fine but you’re missing the most important album of 2002:

BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE - YOU FORGOT IT IN PEOPLE

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 9 January 2022 12:51 (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

weekly rotation

& mirah - advisory committee

Tindersticks – Waiting for the Moon
Lucinda Williams – World Without Tears
Gillian Welch – Soul Journey
Kathleen Edwards – Failer
Esbjörn Svensson Trio – Seven Days of Falling
Sun Kil Moon – Ghosts of the Great Highway
Jesse Sykes & The Sweet Hereafter – Reckless Burning
Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra – "This Is Our Punk-Rock," Thee Rusted Satellites Gather + Sing
Kraftwerk – Tour de France Soundtracks
The Necks – Drive By

I found a list I made of my favorite albums of 2003 made contemporaneously:

1. The Sounds - Living In America
2. Cursive - The Ugly Organ
3. The Mars Volta - De-Loused In The Comatorium
4. Atmosphere - Seven's Travels
5. The White Stripes - Elephant
6. Stiffed - Sex Sells
7. Helios Creed - On The Dark Side Of The Sun
8. Electric Six - Danger! High Voltage
9. Killing Joke - Killing Joke
10. Drive - By Truckers - Decoration Day
11. Widow - Midnight Strikes
12. The Shins - Chutes Too Narrow
13. Death Cab For Cutie - Transatlanticism
14. Arch Enemy - Anthems Of Rebellion
15. Glass Candy - Love Love Love
16. Outkast - Speakerboxxx / The Love Below
17. Party Of Helicopters - Don't Believe It
18. Soul Position - 8,000,000 Stories
19. Neurosis & Jarboe - Neurosis & Jarboe
20. Ryan Adams - Rock N Roll
21. Children Of Bodom - Hate Crew Deathroll
22. Peaches - Fatherfucker
23. Dimmu Borgir - Death Cult Armageddon
24. An Albatross - We Are The Lazer Viking
25. Black Moustache - Black Moustache
26. Fefe Dobson - Fefe Dobson
27. Hamell On Trial - Tough Love
28. Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance
29. The Apes - Oddeyesee
30. Grafton - Blind Horse Campaign
31. Laibach - WAT
32. Placebo - Sleeping With Ghosts
33. Hatebreed - The Rise Of Brutality
34. Daughters - Canada Songs
35. Martin Rev - To Live
36. Lisa Germano - Lullaby For Liquid Pig
37. Wehrwolfe - Godless We Stand
38. Jane's Addiction - Strays
39. Ladytron - Softcore Jukebox
40. The Kills - Keep On Your Mean Side
41. Old Man's Child - In Defiance Of Existence
42. Intro5pect - Intro5pect
43. Supersuckers - Motherfuckers Be Trippin'
44. Cobra Verde - Easy Listening
45. Mando Diao - Bring 'Em In
46. T. Raumschiere - Radio Blackout
47. Yeah Yeah Yeah's - Fever To Tell
48. Buzzcocks - Buzzcocks
49. The Agony Scene - The Agony Scene
50. British Sea Power - The Decline Of British Sea Power
51. The Black Dahlia Murder - Unhallowed
52. Aereogramme - Sleep And Release
53. Ministry - Animositisomina
54. Zyklon - Aeon
55. The Black Keys - Thickfreakness
56. S.T.U.N. - Evolution Of Energy
57. Liz Phair - Liz Phair
58. Chimaira - The Impossibility Of Reason
59. Dead Meadow - Shivering King And Others
60. Vital Remains - Dechristianize
61. The Blood Brothers - Burn Piano Island, Burn
62. Ex Models - Zoo Psychology
63. The Sun - Love & Death
64. Superjoint Ritual - A Lethal Dose Of American Hatred
65. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - Take Them On, On Your Own
66. The Hidden Hand - Divine Propaganda
67. Paloalto - Heroes And Villains
68. Fireball Ministry - The Second Great Awakening
69. Asmegin - Hin Vordende Sod & Sø
70. Turbonegro - Scandinavian Leather
71. Goatwhore - Funeral Dirge For The Rotting Sun
72. Camarosmith - Camarosmith
73. TRS - 80 - Shake Hands With Danger
74. The Strokes - Room On Fire
75. Diverse - One A.M.

Tour de France Soundtracks is the one that's really messing with me because I remember all the hoopla about how it was Kraftwerk's first album in 17 years

get rich or die trying

Marconi Union - Under Wires & Searchlights
Movietone - The Sand and the Stars
No-Man - Together We're Stranger
Piano Magic - Troubled Sleep
David Sylvian - Blemish
Robert Wyatt - Cuckooland

John Fahey - + (Red Cross, Disciple of Christ Today)
Viktor Vaughan - Vaudeville Villain
Explosions in the Sky - The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place
The Magnolia Electric Co. - Magnolia Electric Co.
Sleep - Dopesmoker
Loose Fur - Loose Fur
M83 - Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts
The Cinema Orchestra - Man With a Movie Camera
King Geedorah - Take Me To Your Leader
Paddy McAloon - I Trawl the MEGAHERTZ
Ulrich Schnauss - A Strangely Isolated Place
Four Tet - Rounds
The Hidden Cameras - The Smell of our Own
Steve Roach - Mystic Chords & Sacred Spaces
Belle & Sebastian - Dear Catastrophe Waitress
Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - Master & Everyone
Dizzee Rascal - Boy in da Corner

This was my list at the time:
1. Justin Sullivan - Navigating By The Stars
1. Killing Joke - Killing Joke [2003]
3. Snow Patrol - Final Straw
4. Clearlake - Cedars
5. Pernice Brothers - Yours, Mine & Ours
6. Ryan Adams - Love Is Hell Pts. 1 & 2
7. Radiohead - Hail To The Thief
8. David Sylvian - Blemish
9. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - Take Them On, On Your Own
10. I Am Kloot - I Am Kloot

I've probably listened to the Radiohead, Pernice Brothers and Ryan Adams albums once or twice in the intervening years and that Snow Patrol album was, indeed, the final straw for them. I'd swap those out for:
Lucero - That Much Further West
Sun Kil Moon - Ghosts Of The Great Highway
The Fall - The Real New Fall LP

The rest I still love.

I really didn't like Hail To The Thief much at the time but have been playing a reconstructed version of it a lot more in the past couple of years. I'd include that version in my top albums for 2003 except that it officially doesn't exist.

Gallowsbird's Bark
Fever to Tell

ya I'm sure this has been said a lot but HTTT is a really great record if you delete like a third of it

M. Ward, The Transfiguration of Vincent
Cat Power, You Are Free
My Morning Jacket, It Still Moves
Ted Leo & The Pharmacists, Hearts of Oak
Songs:Ohia, Magnolia Electric Company
Radiohead, Hail to the Thief
The Books, The Lemon of Pink
The White Stripes, Elephant
Steely Dan, Everything Must Go
Joe Strummer & the Mescaleros, Streetcore

Paddy McAloon - I Trawl the MEGAHERTZ

Oooh, yeah, missed that one. That record is just pure heartbreak.

Some that haven't been mentioned yet:

Lilys - Precollection
Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks - Pig Lib
Ween - Quebec
Guided by Voices - Earthquake Glue
Momus - Oskar Tennis Champion
Broadcast - Haha Sound
Blur - Think Tank