Free as a Dodo: UK Politics Welcomes 2021

I'm assuming a lot in Scotland voted SNP - same with farmers - as so many long term SNP strongholds are in those sorts of areas. Hence why a weaselly Weegie like Salmond's constituency was in the North East.

― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, January 15, 2021 10:58 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Salmond is from Linlithgow!

LOL. He's definitely not from Banff or Buchan, put it that way!

they are obv intergalactic vampire aliens and no good will come from eating them

Roll over calz and tell King Henry I the news.

if his old man hadn't eaten so much lamprey, the cunt wouldn't have fallen of his horse and died!

"a surfeit of lampreys against his physician's advice" is the most Real England from the medieval era and also a classic.

There's plenty mention in "1066 and all that "

xps interesting stuff re imports exports but the stuff that's caught in industrial quantities in EU waters, iirc, a lot of it goes to africa and asia. Those guys (again) will not see EU trade manouevres hit them as hard as the likes of fellas shipping live langoustines off to brussels, im not up to speed on this stuff anymore but the big pelagics very likely made out like bandits again at the expense of possible actual sustainable small scale local/quality producers, who've gained no extra rights at all really afaict?

Thats kind of where i think marketing to internal customers might have to be a way forward, other solutions arent yet clear without either a lot of pain or a lot of backtracking and without selling an awful lot of fairly high-end fish to british people very soon, that industry doesnt seem to have a future.

nb all info pulled out my arse i went out on the trawlers for exactly one trip, twasnt for me trevor

An unpopular view, but I struggle with the language of betrayal. The history of 2016- wasn't that ministers hoodwinked naïve fishermen with false promises. It was that the fishing lobby issued hard demands, up no deal if necessary, and ministers paid vague lip service to that. https://t.co/Y8YnuvmpqB

— Matthew Holehouse (@mattholehouse) January 15, 2021

I mean fuck the rest of the country as long as we get freedom from EU quota hegemony is nagl

I don't know which is worse, the single-issue voters like this or the vague, wafty "this will solve everything" types. Both, maybe.

"brexit" was an excellent shorthand promise of everything

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er2M7mKXcCsxsA-?format=png&name=900x900

well this is the last straw for me

Landfill mountain

when did tom waits get his own mag

Mojo and Uncut do special editions on individual artists.

No hurry, it's not like the chazzers are taking donations right now

Rayner: "Thatcher was able to do it because her dad was a small business owner. She told a story behind the business and what it was like... A lot of the time it's about being able to connect and tell the human story." #FEPSFAB21

— LabourList (@LabourList) January 16, 2021

fucking hell Rayner. Were you always such a simpleton?

Like anyone voted for Thatcher because of her human touch. That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

It's so fucking dumb I'm reading it in a Ronald Reagan voice, it must have been difficult for her serving in the "IRA twat's" shadow cabinet all that time when she was a closet Thatcher fan all along.

why must the members of the PLP always have such a hard-on for Thatcher?

because they’re tories

The worst thing about that quote is not the pro-Thatcher sentiment but the clueless ignorance. She'll be banging on about the Winter of Discontent next.

The whole reason there ever was a so-called Red Wall in the first place in recent history was a hatred of Thatcherism. But now we need to challenge that narrative to win it back for Kieth <:-)

I find that pro-Thatcher sentiment is often linked very strongly with mistaken ideas about who she was and what she stood for, especially in people whose job is to know these things.

Even when I thought she might be a useful idiot of some kind - I was always shaking my head at Rayner's terrible and uncritical takes on New Labour. But since Kieth was running the show she's revealed whole new levels of dumbness and horrible fucking politics.

Good on these doctors.

decided to record it because i'm still kinda shocked https://t.co/Jhk0AteZly pic.twitter.com/uscJzsOKYO

— neal (@ne_al_) January 15, 2021

I find that pro-Thatcher sentiment is often linked very strongly with mistaken ideas about who she was and what she stood for, especially in people whose job is to know these things.

I'm not convinced by that. There's nothing opaque about Thatcher and Thatcherism, what you see is what you get, so I've got no idea how you can 'get Thatcher wrong' - unless you're an idiot like Angela Rayner or just a fucking liar, like most of them.

jesus christ, who the fuck would moan about homeless people getting help? that's clip is horrifying, but that doctor is an absolute diamond

There seems to have been a decision taken that the worship of Thatcher is a reasonable stance to incorporate into a political viewpoint, for the reason of attracting the population that have been told often enough that she was the best prime minister of recent history, whatever your political viewpoint.

Xpost "But you have been told by the govt very clearly not to help the homeless, what gives you the right or justification to go against that?"

i really hate that roger guy. he used to do the sport on 'south today', obviously he's weaseled his way up from that, arse-kissing prick that he is

Unlike the Conservatives, Labour is serious about protecting the public finances.

A Labour government would ask the NAO for an annual update on public spending and act on its recommendations.

That's our cast-iron commitment to delivering value for money for the British people.

— Anneliese Dodds 💙 (@AnnelieseDodds) January 17, 2021

cautiously talking up austerity and regurgitating/repackaging the failed 2015 manifesto again at a time when the govt needs to print much more money than it currently is doing just so people can get by is fucking lousy messaging. Yeah I can't sleep at night worrying that fucking British taxpayers aren't getting value for money that's why I'll vote Labour in 2024 ...Not!

jfc this is pitiful, back to voting for the Vape Party I guess

It’s deeply stupid messaging, regardless of whatever nuance she’s making in the actual fleshed-out policies. People are in very precarious situations rn and like, is this really the fucking time?

"we've got four years lads, shall we spend it redefining what's economically possible in a broken post-pandemic country or shall we cosplay branch managers at Barclays?"

So finished with these oblivious bourgie cunts

tbf, there is a strong argument that the current government have um, spaffed a lot of money up the wall on a lot of wasteful shit - huge contracts going to mates and donors, poor value for money in return. look at everything from school meal vouchers to track and trace. and johnson's obviously got form there - water cannons, the garden bridge etc. it's not the worst angle to come at them from. except in practice it always comes down to following an agenda set by the tabloids, cutting services to the less well-off, being paranoid about benefit cheats etc, and letting all the real stuff slide

I'm not convinced by that. There's nothing opaque about Thatcher and Thatcherism, what you see is what you get, so I've got no idea how you can 'get Thatcher wrong' - unless you're an idiot like Angela Rayner or just a fucking liar, like most of them.

I mean yes, it's stupid and it makes no sense, I agree, they do seem to be idiots and/or duplicitous callous careerists.

xp

you don't need to be a seer to see where Starmer Labour are going to go with that kind of "VFM for British people" messaging, especially when she's already trashed the New Labour spending legacy, she's basically attacking her own party with the same lines that the tories used against them in 2010. She's such an insipidly melty minded mediocrity and doesn't seem to have a clue what she is doing.

xps to NickB that’s all true and a good point, but why would your messaging lean on VALUE FOR MONEY and not, idk, the obvious corruption of the government? Why does the New York fucking Times have to call this shit out when the shadow chancellor is looking at George Osborne for tips?

You can't inspire people people with talk of managerial competence rn, especially when your party leader is a shifty lying cunt who has run roughshod over every pledge he made last year and has not one policy to his name other than execrable shit like his Family Agenda speech!

better auditing is not gonna end poverty

"end poverty" might be a good baseline mantra for the alleged party of the working class tho

I see a few more bad polls dropped in the last few days, lol when Boris totally pwns Kieth by saying Rashford does a better job of opposition than him, this is mainstream UK thought now - the die is cast!

listening to Kieth's family agenda speech made me think about the time a work colleague got thrown out of a pub for persistently swearing too much. The manager said "This is a family pub" and he retorted "I'm from a family you fucking dickhead!"

Xps, hey i wouldn't defend that shower, just noting that the government wouldn't stand up to any sort of scrutiny on spending. Boris commissions things like he's in charge of the events soc at Eton. Stick him in charge of the catering and it would be £300 to some tory cheese twat for an entire wheel of parmesan, just cos that was the first guy on his contacts

this govt can get away with murder.. literally, and still be strongly polling at 40%+. A bit of cronyism/corruption/inefficiency is not going to touch them.

Well if neither corbynism or cronyism are going to take boris down, labour might have to miss another turn and get some new letters out of the bag

Sorry I've not had much sleep

In statuary news:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/17/robert-jenrick-statues-must-be-protected-from-baying-mob

“Local people should have the chance to be consulted whether a monument should stand or not. What has stood for generations should be considered thoughtfully, not removed on a whim or at the behest of a baying mob.”

People had been trying to get that Colston statue removed for decades you twat! Ignored by all and sundry to boot! Throw every statue into the sea if you ask me, even the ones of Gandhi and Mandela. Horrible things.