It was not chatter - it was verified! He has been like this for a long time. Tragic really!!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link
https://news.avclub.com/just-tim-allen-waxing-poetic-about-his-collection-of-p-1827499171
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link
His paintings are indeed awesome though. I have a really tiny painting of his of a television set (not in the photorealistic style though).
― Evan, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link
Easy for me to separate art from artist here tbh... as disappointing as it is not surprised given his facebook activity in the Obama days. He has since cleaned up that public profile.
― Evan, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link
i do think his art rises above the "this is by a guy in a band i like" gimmicky aspect
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
Yeah and it also generally rises above rich-suburb-art-walk type of stuff too imo. He has great taste as applied to art but it's too bad he has poor taste otherwise. He was also very nice the few times I've corresponded with him. For people with discrepancies like this especially I feel like they're victims of a cult and have been poisoned.
― Evan, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link
was this the thread where someone was putting together a playlist of the good songs from the post-reunion albums? if so, would you mind sharing? if not, would someone remind me what thread that was on?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link
I made this but that was just the first reunion of the og lineup, obv there have been 200 albums since thenhttps://open.spotify.com/playlist/6pNdtcAVo6SVin1hcF594M?si=cRkl_HFZQDS02DupjKzfBw&utm_source=copy-linkhopefully someone else made a more updated one but I don't remember
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link
ok thank you -- still on the search!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link
hey LL I did this but it's not a playlist, proper mp3 mix with edits, dm me if you'd like
https://i.imgur.com/FkPt1Cz.jpg
2017-2020 (1:37)
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link
I made this one last year (two albums ago now):
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1idxGsnYtzSHZY2ipxQSdP
The idea was to make kind of a Human Amusements vol. 2, so there are a few songs from Half Smiles of the Decomposed on here since that album wasn't covered on Human Amusements.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link
Awesome! Thanks y’all.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link
ISOLATION DRILLS came out 20 years ago this month
might prefer DO THE COLLAPSE for GBV Is Produced but 'the enemy' and 'pivotal film' (among others) are undeniable
― mookieproof, Monday, 19 April 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link
xp electric sound of jim's playlist of worthy reunited GBV was this as of 2013, i.e. two dozen albums ago
Guided by Voices - Flunky Minnows (2:11) Guided by Voices - Class Clown Spots a UFO (3:17) Guided by Voices - Everywhere is Miles From Everywhere (3:05) Guided by Voices - Keep It in Motion (2:06) Guided by Voices - The Challenge is Much More (1:48) Guided by Voices - You Can Fly Anything Right (1:54) Guided by Voices - King Arthur the Red (2:14) Guided by Voices - Finger Gang (1:50) Guided by Voices - The Unsinkable Fats Domino (1:53) Guided by Voices - Be Impeccable (2:56) Guided by Voices - Waving at Airplanes (3:13) Guided by Voices - Jon the Croc (2:32) Guided by Voices - Roll of the Dice, Kick in the Head (0:46) Guided by Voices - W/ Glass in Foot (2:20) Guided by Voices - Skin to Skin Combat (3:42) Guided by Voices - No Transmission (2:18) Guided by Voices - Billy Wire (2:03) Guided by Voices - Hangover Child (2:57) Guided by Voices - White Flag (2:14) Guided by Voices - Trash Can Full of Nails (3:30) Guided by Voices - Xeno Pariah (2:03) Guided by Voices - Smoggy Boy (0:34) Guided by Voices - Chain to the Moon (0:59) Guided by Voices - Have a Jug (1:09) Guided by Voices - Chocolate Boy (1:31) Guided by Voices - Islands (She Talks in Rainbows) (2:16) Guided by Voices - Imperial Racehorsing (2:54) Guided by Voices - Waking Up the Stars (2:13)
Isolation Drills is mostly quite good, but, yes, a notch below Do the Collapse; my standout pick would be "Fine to See You".
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 19 April 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
isolation drills is one of my favs
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link
grotesque and arrogantperfect for the experts
― mookieproof, Monday, 19 April 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link
I think the complaints of "overproduction" on those two TVT records were over-emphasized, it's not as the songs themselves were crying out for out-of-tune guitars or hissy overdubs.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 19 April 2021 02:24 (three years ago) link
"Isolation Drills" is miles better than "Do the Collapse". Too much Gillard on the latter.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Monday, 19 April 2021 09:16 (three years ago) link
"brides have hit glass" is a top 10 GBV tune for me
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 19 April 2021 12:20 (three years ago) link
Count me in the Isolation Drills>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do the Collapse camp. Isolation Drills is probably top 5 GbV for me.
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 11:57 (three years ago) link
Although, I saw them on the pre-Isolation Drills tour where they opened the set with a good chunk of the yet-to-be-released record, and the first song they played was "Run Wild", and I will never forgive them for not making that the opening track of the record.
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 11:58 (three years ago) link
I saw them on the Universal Truths tour, my first time seeing them (I was 17), and they were still performing a lot from Isolation Drills. It was my first GBV record, I think, so I have some deep affection for it.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:13 (three years ago) link
Love Isolation Drills, but I'm a sucker for an album where an artist's "real" life bleeds legibly into their art
― Fine ham abounds, mom (stevie), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:36 (three years ago) link
I saw them in 2000 where they played "Glad Girls" twice, Pollard saying, "this is the song that'll make us as big as Radiohead!"One of the things I like about Do the Collapse is the production filigrees help it stand out in a catalogue where a lot of songs sound a lot like a lot of other songs.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:41 (three years ago) link
Also, bonus points to Elliot Smith for the most superfluous guest appearance of all time.
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:47 (three years ago) link
It's a nice organ part!
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:50 (three years ago) link
Mitchell > Gillard
― calstars, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 13:18 (three years ago) link
^^^This. Isolation Drills production served the songs, but Do the Collapse seemed that it just added a couple keyboard presets to some of the songs.
― i bought biden some thin mints with my stimmy (PBKR), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 13:50 (three years ago) link
Isolation Drills was my favorite those late-period (pre-reunion) albums for years, but the last couple times I listened to it it felt kind of monotonous in a way the others aren't. I think it's a combination of the production and the songs themselves. Still don't love the production on Do the Collapse, but I think the songs themselves are generally more interesting. "Bride Have Hit Glass" is all-time though, of course.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:50 (three years ago) link
On Isolation Drills, a lot of the expensive production seems to consist of "let's overdub the same rhythm guitar part eight times", which contributes to a monotonous sound.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link
To me that's preferable to eight overdubs of Doug Gillard running through his favourite licks.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:05 (three years ago) link
Which Do the Collapse songs do you feel have this particular problem?
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link
I think he overplays throughout the entire album basically. I'm sure that's more down to Ric Ocasek thinking, "Oh this guy can actually play, I should use him wherever possible".
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link
Poor man's Ohio indie The Who < collection of basement anthems bookended by weirdo lo-fi cut and paste tape experiments.
― Evan, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link
i like Do the Collapse way better than Isolation Drills personally.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link
I mean I love a lot of the Gillard era stuff but I took my old VOT/Prop CD with me driving up to in-laws at the weekend, and was just astonished again at how brilliant those albums are, how unique and constantly inspired. Felt like I was transported back to hearing them for the first time as a teen again.
― Fine ham abounds, mom (stevie), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link
“And oh, mesh gear fox”
― calstars, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link
There’s just no comparing pre and post 96. Original stuff shits all over gillards robotic playing and mainstream production. Same planet, different worlds.
― calstars, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link
teenage fbi is all time, chasing heather crazy is good
― brimstead, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link
never really listened to those albums though never listened to mag earwig either
New album Earth Man Blues can be listened to here: https://www.grammy.com/grammys/news/2021-guided-by-voices-earth-man-blues-premiere-remote-recording
First impression: this could end up being my favorite post-reunion album? I don't know, I really loved Surrender Your Poppy Field. That album felt kind of like a musical to me, which is something Bob's explicitly aiming for with this one. It also kind of gives me Mag Earwhig vibes, probably just because I always thought of that one as a loose concept album about growing up in Dayton, and that's supposedly the concept here.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
I've heard only good things about this record so far.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 29 April 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link
xp As someone whose favorite post-reunion record is by far Surrender Your Poppy Field, I am very excited to read that.
― cwkiii, Thursday, 29 April 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link
OK yeah, after one listen, this is definitely top tier for this lineup. Much better than the last two records.
― cwkiii, Friday, 30 April 2021 12:28 (two years ago) link
oooooh this one sounds genuinely different. I can't help but wonder if Pollard heard the Heidecker bit and decided to mix it up lol
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 30 April 2021 12:41 (two years ago) link
I genuinely wondered that
― PaulTMA, Friday, 30 April 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link
Hmm I wasn’t too enthused by it. I had the same reaction I’ve had to most of the recent stuff—excited for the first few tracks but it starts to become tedious as it goes. It’s just... more.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 30 April 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
Needmore records was their early “label” if I recall
― calstars, Friday, 30 April 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
I think it was their/his publisher, as in Needmore Songs. Named after a street in Dayton.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Friday, 30 April 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link