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ALL OF THAT SAID fizzles your bread is beautiful and the crumb looks sensational and i bet it tastes great

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 January 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link

ha ha it *is* great but i love the tips and am looking forward to applying them all and coming back here when things aren’t quite satisfactory for more tips until it is PERFECT.

Fizzles, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

worth saying some people don’t turn down the heat for the dry phase, and bake for less time. they just keep it blasting. if i do that my loaves are a little gummy inside.

Thanks for this tip, tracer. I had done this the last few times because I liked the brown crust, but was getting some gumminess so I think I will stop.

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

yeah! if you reduce the heat to about 230C and bake for maybe 10-15 minutes longer than you usually do that should get you there. i too like it very 'bien cuit'

by the way, my last two loaves i pre-shaped and left of the counter for the usual 20 minutes or so before final shape and into the bannetons.. except.. i ended up playing two and a half hours of NBA2K21. i let out a yelp when i went to the kitchen. the dough had developed a bit of a skin. i shaped as normal, put into the bannetons, which went straight into the frige, baked the next morning per usual.... and they were absolutely fine

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link

suggest banneton

superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 14 January 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link

haha had an almost identical experience a couple of months ago after deciding to find out what World of Warcraft was like nowadays.

woof, Friday, 15 January 2021 12:34 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

by no means perfect - the leaven was somewhat lacking in... jouissance, so it's not quite as buoyant as i'd like, and it's overfloured, but this loaf is great. crust is crackly and delicious as is the crumb. tracer's shaping video is really great for the pre-shape, and decided on woof's timings of half an hour in dutch oven and 15 minutes uncovered.

because the leaven hadn't risen quite as much as i'd hoped in the morning, i gave it another couple of hours in a warm area. this didn't make it any more bouncy as such, in fact it became a rather elasticated, not v holey substance, so i was worried about the outcome. i've heard i think that the longer you leave the leaven the more sour your bread tastes? If that's the case the leaven may not have been great for bounce, but was fantastic for taste.

https://i.imgur.com/nDnsEls.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/xgEQKxG.jpg

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Monday, 1 February 2021 12:57 (three years ago) link

that looks EXCELLENT

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Monday, 1 February 2021 13:07 (three years ago) link

yeah the “aeration” in there is magnificent

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 February 2021 13:09 (three years ago) link

Looks great, bet it will toast really well in a few days when you’re down to the last of it

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 1 February 2021 13:10 (three years ago) link

it’s nice getting back into the rhythm of doing a loaf a week habitually. really got to work on my final boule shaping which is a bit slapdash (surreptitiously looks to tracer for more magic videos or tips).

might start trying some other loaves and options soon as well.

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Monday, 1 February 2021 13:15 (three years ago) link

Slightly frustrated - my head's not in the game. Just went back to Forkish's White bread with poolish - which I've successfully made a few times & is delicious - and had a flat disaster. Barely any rise.
Unripe poolish I think - normally I'd wait & maybe give it a little heat but I just threw it in, barely checking.
Now I must eat a dense, ugly loaf before I can trying again. This is my punishment.

woof, Thursday, 4 February 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

the only way to learn is to eat the mess you’ve made, no question.

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Thursday, 4 February 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I neglected my starter in the run up to xmas, thought I got it going again but baked over the weekend and it felt closer to a ciabatta rather than a boule. Think I need to keep feeding that little dude even more than I thought.

colette, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link

people say you can let it go a month but ime if you leave it longer than maybe 10 days you really have to work to get it strong and active again

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link

We were away for a few days after Christmas. Forgot to put the starter in the fridge & I suspect the kids had the heating on full blast, because there was pink mould on top once I got back. No smell, and very liquid. Seemed dead.

Got a couple of tbsp from the bottom and fed it a good mix of wholewheat, white and rye. Nothing after 24 hours. Tried to convince myself that it would be healthy and unsentimental to start a new starter from scratch & that I should get better at baking with instant yeast anyway.

But then! Tiny little bubbles the next day. Took about a week to actually recover, but it's alive & is baking as well as ever.

Taken it as a warning - I slowed down on baking since I got a dog, but I enjoy it & I was so glum when I thought the starter was gone. Made me realise I need to pick up the rhythm again.

woof, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:05 (two years ago) link

(& of course I discarded & fed every day till it was back to its usual winter self - sluggish, 8-10 hours to ripen)

woof, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:10 (two years ago) link

pink pink pink pink
pink mold

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:13 (two years ago) link


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