have you quit the labour party yet?

Dunno about that pic.twitter.com/S5ct5w7uWM

— Linus (@LinusRII) January 11, 2021

if gotchas on how long Johnson's been on his bike are the standard for UK political debate I think I'll skip the news for a bit

Strong whiff of Labour 96 to it

lol

Some very odd things going on around Starmer's Telegraph column. I happened to be on their website stealing content (disable JavaScript to stop the paywall) and saw his article. Ten minutes later it was gone. So I did some digging so buckle up: THREAD. But first the article. 1/?? pic.twitter.com/eSpmIyYfBy

— It's real 🍊 🍊 🍊 (@StefGotBooted) January 17, 2021

Latest from me: on a huge social & political moment, & the smallness of Labour's current response https://t.co/EFrqojkxFQ

— John Harris (@johnharris1969) January 24, 2021

And yet, you... but you...

In the eyes of most voters, the Labour leader is clearly a vast improvement on Jeremy Corbyn.

No effort to quantify or justify this whatsoever.

We'll see come May, yeah?

I couldn't quite work out what he was trying to say in the second paragraph, I thought 'union jacks' might be some derogatory term for a trade union leader.

christ almighty Harris gets stupider by the week

It's an odd mix of emotions this, that their handpicked guy has revealed himself to be essentially a small time gammonesque lawyer with no vision, principles or energy, but can take minutes in a meeting; my horror of it all mingles with schadenfreude and black amusement very discomfortingly. Harris talks about the smallness of Labour's response, but does not mention how towering Corbyn and McDonell were in the first few months of 2020, in Parliament no less. It's impossible to take him seriously without that comparison.

i don't hate myself enough to line by line that piece but next to the casual dismissal of Corbyn is a lot of guff about Kieth's so good at PMQ's it's a cliche - it's not a cliche, there's nothing obvious about it, and nobody who matters gives a shit. for a man of the people Harris can't help showing his disinterested sports politics insiderdom at every turn

Sometimes I think about Johnny Mc’s speech to conference and get devastatingly sad, like even more so than usual.

There’s an old trade union saying that “the cause of labour is the hope of the world”. Here in Britain it’s the Labour Party carrying that hope. The hope of a world where the riches of our planet are shared. The hope of a world with the chance for everyone to fulfil their full potential.

We won’t build that world overnight. And let nobody tell you it will be easy. Or that we won’t face enormous resistance.But I believe our time is coming. Time to start work on our historic mission to lay the foundations of that new world.

When they ask you some time in the future:

“Where were you when people were left to sleep on our streets?
“When families queued at food banks to survive?
“When the Tories tried to sell out our country to Trump”
“When climate change threatened our planet and our very existence?”
I want you all to be able to say

“I built the homes and public services our people needed”
“I made sure everyone was fed and cared for.”
“With nobody forced to endure poverty
“I saved the planet by tackling climate change
“I helped lay the foundations of a new society
“Foundations so deeply rooted that the Tories can never break them up”
And when they ask “how did you do that?” You can tell them: “I supported Labour, I joined Labour, I voted for Jeremy Corbyn. That’s how.”

Solidarity.

Kieth is the opposite of forensic on PMQ - he's lame as fuck. He often picks the wrong line of attack and then fails to land a blow. Not that it really matters, but it's his diminishing fan club that keep insisting he's like some crack shot SAS sniper calmly taking down his targets.

It's a truth unexaminable to them that things would in every circumstance be worse under Jeremy Corbyn. I mean, how couldn't they be?

the Starmer twitter account has started turning off the replies, not only is Labour 5 pts behind in the latest poll to drop, he's also way too thin skinned for such a high profile role. Corbyn got a much more personalised and sinister level of abuse on social media and this cunt is crying because people call him Kieth and mock him as a conservative ham - often more out of despair than hatred, well I actually despise him tbf and others probably do, but everything Corbyn posted including RIP's was always thousands deep in the replies with much worse slurs than he ever gets.

Which of the following individuals do you think would be the better Prime Minister?

Johnson (CON): 43% (+1)
Starmer (LAB): 31% (-3)

Johnson (CON): 39% (=)
Sunak (CON): 31% (=)

Sunak (CON): 39% (=)
Starmer (LAB): 32% (-1)

via
@RedfieldWilton
, 25 Jan

(Changes with 18 Jan)

it seems basing your electoral strategy on mainly trying to appeal to floating Tory voters and all those apocryphal Corbyn haters *on the the doorsteps* is bad electoral math if you are really serious about winning power.

I bet even jeremy cunt would beat Starmer

I asked for the third time to be taken off a party mailing list and was asked why I had left the party, here is a c&p of what I got back, enjoy.

Hi (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

The allegations you refer to are being investigated by an independent inquiry (the Forde inquiry) and should hopefully report soon. Starmer and Rayner have made it clear that all actions proposed in that report, including the expulsion of any members found guilty of actions such as racist abuse will follow swiftly. Likewise the sacking of staff members guilty of any offences that have brought the Party into disrepute.

As for the Overseas Operations Bill, the Party abstained so that it could introduce amendments that would have substantially reduced the worst aspects of the bill in terms of potential human rights violations. Regrettably, those amendments were voted down by the Tories.

I hope to welcome you back one day. The Tories are doing terrible damage to this country, and Labour is the only Party that can save it from their corruption, incompetence and greed.

Best wishes

(Labour Party Guy)

"the Party abstained so that it could introduce amendments that would have substantially reduced the worst aspects of the bill in terms of potential human rights violations"

lol, well done adults

yeah, total rake in face stuff

"and Labour is the only Party that can save it from their corruption, incompetence and greed."

to roughly quote the great Cornel West : " I might be a prisoner of hope, but I wasn't born last night!"

http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.com/2021/01/timidity-as-clever-clever-politics.html

"if a moment of crisis, institutional failure and rising despair is not a time to think big, when will be?" Quite.

lol when the John Harris quote about you is otm, that's when Kieth really needs to start worrying. But fuck it instead of thinking big let's just project an even more timorous version of Milibandism while a 1000 people are dying a day and millions of people are falling through the cracks of an inadequate social security system. Does team Starmer think he's so special that he can succeed where Ed + Broon failed? let's just try it again anyway because he can eat a bacon sandwich like an authentocrat and even looks like bacon

It's worth remembering that at this stage of his leadership Ed was miles ahead in the polling and it makes you wonder how fragile Starmer Labour will be when his friends at the Torygraph start putting the boot in and he'll be all sadface: c'mon lads ..it's me. When the Graun starts cuddling up to Jeremy Cunt as opposition that is a strong indictment of not just the lousy fucking Graun, but also Starmerism.

If you can take questions about the "Great Replacement' from Gemma in Ibiza for Talk Radio you can leave your comments on, good Sir Knight. https://t.co/H5A5HZcydM

— KateMcK (@TheKateMcK) January 25, 2021

"Starmzy"

This is broader than Kieth but for the last few days i've been thinking that any government or would be government worth its salt should be starting to develop their vision of what reconstruction will look like for a state that's been economically and socially ravaged. That would be good material for a genuine opposition to start selling themselves to the public and hammering Johnson and co.

The Kiethite reality is that the electorate don't want vision or a better world, even a better world than the mouldering corpse of the UK in two or three years time. Expecting jobs and services and hope is, well, not what grown-ups do

Was it you who boiled Kiethism down to TIG-esque "I'll do it better, just let me do it" and nothing more? Because I think that every time I see him now.

(Especially important never to go anywhere near what "it" is or might be, obv)

Things can only get better!

Exclusive: Labour Expects ‘Vaccine Bounce’ For Boris Johnson Ahead Of May Electionshttps://t.co/HxLGRuqKC6

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) January 26, 2021

expects nay demands

i wish i was dead

sometimes I find it hard to comprehend how a liberalism which isn't permanently apologetic and terrified of its own shadow hasn't been able to get itself together yet. then I start thinking that such a thing would probably end up resembling corbynism more than any kind of nu-blairism

In fact we could and should blame Jumps Canbin for frightening the Liberal establishment reluctantly rightwards

even on the day official deaths pass 100k the best he can offer is "we'll have to take a look into this at some point".

christ, even around likely Tories i've been saying "we need to find out exactly what went wrong and why, without necessarily scapegoating", but maybe that's tankie rhetoric idk

No rush lads, not as if anyone’s died

I've had labourites literally telling me the problem was not enough police enforcement of lockdown rules so I have no hope that even a more forthright response from this party would be a good one

if Kieth doesn't want to look like he's point-scoring off death he should still be pressing the "maybe it's important to know why so many people have died" line

my fave part of public inquiries is when they fearlessly point the finger at high profile govt ministers and send them to the gallows rather than finding low-level scapegoats and also the speed at which they erm .. execute them. Just waiting for the Pendle Witch Inquiry to conclude this week.

if Kieth doesn't want to look like he's point-scoring off death he should still be pressing the "maybe it's important to know why so many people have died" line

We (well Pieths Morgan) already established that the official govt response is 'too old and/or fat" iirc

well?

Forde Inquiry report delayed indefinitely, chair tells Labour Party – full story here: https://t.co/LvWwgUzXh4

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) February 11, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMSNVgQgctE

gotta imagine some of those 9 "never!!" votes must have shifted by now

I'd say never! about football club affiliation and all sorts of other inconsequential nonsense, but never about membership to a moribund political party led by a tory cunt with 90% of their MPs being rotten useless garbage that could just have easily joined the LibDems or UKIP

I’d hope at least some of the people taking the EHRC report fallout in good faith would have understood what the rest of us are saying by now.

I almost wish I hadn't quit the party last year so I could tell them I'm leaving tonight.

I wished I'd left sooner after finding out how my monthly subs was being wasted and taken for granted by these worthless scumbags

has a major political party ever destroyed itself so wilfully and methodically like this it's almost impressive

They did it in Scotland first.

The Scottish Labour leader, Anas Sarwar, has promised to offer “credible alternative” to the SNP over the next five years, despite the party’s poorest Scottish results since devolution.

he's only lost two seats I think, give a disreputable millionaire labour candidate a chance!