have you quit the labour party yet?

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Chakrabarti’s Amendment 1 to the covert human intelligence sources bill in the House of Lords: content 153, not content 309. Chooses not to move Amendment 2. Labour told peers to abstain on the changes, which sought to remove the advance immunity proposed for undercover agents.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) January 11, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 11 January 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link

Tommy Corbyn Tweeted about "Keith" today and it made him seem like a bit of a knobber, really.

He was Tweeting about Starmer wearing a purple tie, which seemed (to Tommy) to be a terrible thing.

I do think there were better things to slag Starmer off for today.

djh, Monday, 11 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

It’s ‘Kieth’ - surprised Tommy got that bit wrong.

scampopo (suzy), Monday, 11 January 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

* checks *

He definitely typed "Keith". And his dad was definitely fond of a purple tie.

djh, Monday, 11 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

Tommy Corbyn got jumped on by every aggro centrist out there for tweeting this, I think Starmzy can handle an incredibly mild dig about his tie

Remember when people slated my Dad for leading protests against this fascist instead of attending a state banquet with him? Funny that. https://t.co/mGHFALrOUB

— Tommy Corbyn (@TommyCorbyn) January 6, 2021

scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 11 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

I'd be disappointed in Tommy if he didn't either call him "Kieth" or "Keith" or "Sir Haircut" or even just "wanker" will do fine.

calzino, Monday, 11 January 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

he's only a citizen like anyone on here, being Corbyn's kid isn't exactly celeb status and he doesn't owe anything to the Labour Party, he's got just as much right to call him Keith as anybody has!

calzino, Monday, 11 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

Maybe? It seemed a waste.

djh, Monday, 11 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

It's only a frivolous post on twitter, and it's not as if a more pointed attack on Kent Starmer from crobywins son is going make a great deal of difference on this current labour shitshow

calzino, Monday, 11 January 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link

He’s very sweetly protective of his dad and called Uncle Piers a knobber on social media.

scampopo (suzy), Monday, 11 January 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

lol poor Uncle Piers

calzino, Monday, 11 January 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link

when Corbyn was first elected as LOTO there was a short interview with Piers on Today and he sounded like a perfectly reasonable chap!

calzino, Monday, 11 January 2021 21:42 (three years ago) link

I had an Uncle a bit like him as in a total commie in the 60's-70's then a bit of a crackpot in his later years but he definitely wouldn't have been an anti-lockdown loon had he lived into this pandemic era.

calzino, Monday, 11 January 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

3 days of food for 1 family...
Just not good enough. pic.twitter.com/Y7FJEFFAma

— Marcus Rashford MBE (@MarcusRashford) January 11, 2021

Marcus is still doing Kieth's job for him and all the dreadful nutrition experts with union jacks on their profiles in the replies clearly know fuck all about trying to survive on poverty money. It's not the LOTO's job to pander to arseholes like this, if you aren't brave enough to challenge a Tory govt on austerity then you aren't fit for the fucking job.

calzino, Monday, 11 January 2021 22:14 (three years ago) link

https://play.acast.com/s/mandatory-redistribution-party/mandatoryredistributionparty.podbean.com%2F25dc012f-600f-527b-8a4f-be12f3cfa264

this podcast is from last year but it came to my attention earlier when people were posting about when Prescott punched the farm worker guy with the mullet who egged him. It's not terrible and makes some very good points.

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link

Piers is will represented in this documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erp2utEgZp4

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:05 (three years ago) link

... and also Tony Wakeford from Death in June/Sol Invictus!

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

Marcus is still doing Kieth's job for him and all the dreadful nutrition experts with union jacks on their profiles in the replies clearly know fuck all about trying to survive on poverty money.

Strikes me that with the current labour leadership we basically need a Rashford for every issue - any footballers wanna tackle not giving the homeless shelter during lockdown?

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:10 (three years ago) link

if only there were more prem footballers with 4m followers on twitter that aren't complete arses who have worked out how to shame and put political pressure on Tories, but Marcus is as rare as principled and decent MP's in the Labour Party.

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:20 (three years ago) link

It turns out Rashford's complaint is not true, because one of the companies involved says so.

There are a lot of people seeking to whip a storm up on Twitter tonight. Too much to hope in age of instant outrage to wait for the facts before jumping in. DfE are likewise investigating. https://t.co/XxExbHgSzx

— Simon Clarke MP (@SimonClarkeMP) January 11, 2021

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:24 (three years ago) link

I can't imagine some shady Tory donor company who are making a killing from poverty, lying out of their arses when they've been accused of immoral and corrupt practise .. no way.

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:29 (three years ago) link

Going out on a limb here but think the current horrible mess we're in is not as a result of two people having a socially distanced walk with a cup of tea or someone stopping to sit on an empty park bench for 5 minutes. https://t.co/R6hbY55eR2

— tom jamieson (@jamiesont) January 11, 2021

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:43 (three years ago) link

Dunno about that pic.twitter.com/S5ct5w7uWM

— Linus (@LinusRII) January 11, 2021

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:43 (three years ago) link

if gotchas on how long Johnson's been on his bike are the standard for UK political debate I think I'll skip the news for a bit

Strong whiff of Labour 96 to it

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 12:40 (three years ago) link

lol

Some very odd things going on around Starmer's Telegraph column. I happened to be on their website stealing content (disable JavaScript to stop the paywall) and saw his article. Ten minutes later it was gone. So I did some digging so buckle up: THREAD. But first the article. 1/?? pic.twitter.com/eSpmIyYfBy

— It's real 🍊 🍊 🍊 (@StefGotBooted) January 17, 2021

Un tranquillo posto di scampagna (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 January 2021 14:02 (three years ago) link

Latest from me: on a huge social & political moment, & the smallness of Labour's current response https://t.co/EFrqojkxFQ

— John Harris (@johnharris1969) January 24, 2021

And yet, you... but you...

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 24 January 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link

In the eyes of most voters, the Labour leader is clearly a vast improvement on Jeremy Corbyn.

No effort to quantify or justify this whatsoever.

We'll see come May, yeah?

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 24 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

I couldn't quite work out what he was trying to say in the second paragraph, I thought 'union jacks' might be some derogatory term for a trade union leader.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

christ almighty Harris gets stupider by the week

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 January 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link

It's an odd mix of emotions this, that their handpicked guy has revealed himself to be essentially a small time gammonesque lawyer with no vision, principles or energy, but can take minutes in a meeting; my horror of it all mingles with schadenfreude and black amusement very discomfortingly. Harris talks about the smallness of Labour's response, but does not mention how towering Corbyn and McDonell were in the first few months of 2020, in Parliament no less. It's impossible to take him seriously without that comparison.

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 24 January 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link

i don't hate myself enough to line by line that piece but next to the casual dismissal of Corbyn is a lot of guff about Kieth's so good at PMQ's it's a cliche - it's not a cliche, there's nothing obvious about it, and nobody who matters gives a shit. for a man of the people Harris can't help showing his disinterested sports politics insiderdom at every turn

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 January 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link

Sometimes I think about Johnny Mc’s speech to conference and get devastatingly sad, like even more so than usual.

There’s an old trade union saying that “the cause of labour is the hope of the world”. Here in Britain it’s the Labour Party carrying that hope. The hope of a world where the riches of our planet are shared. The hope of a world with the chance for everyone to fulfil their full potential.

We won’t build that world overnight. And let nobody tell you it will be easy. Or that we won’t face enormous resistance.But I believe our time is coming. Time to start work on our historic mission to lay the foundations of that new world.

When they ask you some time in the future:

“Where were you when people were left to sleep on our streets?
“When families queued at food banks to survive?
“When the Tories tried to sell out our country to Trump”
“When climate change threatened our planet and our very existence?”
I want you all to be able to say

“I built the homes and public services our people needed”
“I made sure everyone was fed and cared for.”
“With nobody forced to endure poverty
“I saved the planet by tackling climate change
“I helped lay the foundations of a new society
“Foundations so deeply rooted that the Tories can never break them up”
And when they ask “how did you do that?” You can tell them: “I supported Labour, I joined Labour, I voted for Jeremy Corbyn. That’s how.”

Solidarity.


And you look at small and mean this crowd is by comparison, with a hundred thousand dead and the government getting away with it.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 24 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

Kieth is the opposite of forensic on PMQ - he's lame as fuck. He often picks the wrong line of attack and then fails to land a blow. Not that it really matters, but it's his diminishing fan club that keep insisting he's like some crack shot SAS sniper calmly taking down his targets.

calzino, Sunday, 24 January 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

It's a truth unexaminable to them that things would in every circumstance be worse under Jeremy Corbyn. I mean, how couldn't they be?

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

the Starmer twitter account has started turning off the replies, not only is Labour 5 pts behind in the latest poll to drop, he's also way too thin skinned for such a high profile role. Corbyn got a much more personalised and sinister level of abuse on social media and this cunt is crying because people call him Kieth and mock him as a conservative ham - often more out of despair than hatred, well I actually despise him tbf and others probably do, but everything Corbyn posted including RIP's was always thousands deep in the replies with much worse slurs than he ever gets.

calzino, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link

Which of the following individuals do you think would be the better Prime Minister?

Johnson (CON): 43% (+1)
Starmer (LAB): 31% (-3)

Johnson (CON): 39% (=)
Sunak (CON): 31% (=)

Sunak (CON): 39% (=)
Starmer (LAB): 32% (-1)

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@RedfieldWilton
, 25 Jan

(Changes with 18 Jan)

it seems basing your electoral strategy on mainly trying to appeal to floating Tory voters and all those apocryphal Corbyn haters *on the the doorsteps* is bad electoral math if you are really serious about winning power.

calzino, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:23 (three years ago) link

I bet even jeremy cunt would beat Starmer

calzino, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:26 (three years ago) link

I asked for the third time to be taken off a party mailing list and was asked why I had left the party, here is a c&p of what I got back, enjoy.

Hi (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

The allegations you refer to are being investigated by an independent inquiry (the Forde inquiry) and should hopefully report soon. Starmer and Rayner have made it clear that all actions proposed in that report, including the expulsion of any members found guilty of actions such as racist abuse will follow swiftly. Likewise the sacking of staff members guilty of any offences that have brought the Party into disrepute.

As for the Overseas Operations Bill, the Party abstained so that it could introduce amendments that would have substantially reduced the worst aspects of the bill in terms of potential human rights violations. Regrettably, those amendments were voted down by the Tories.

I hope to welcome you back one day. The Tories are doing terrible damage to this country, and Labour is the only Party that can save it from their corruption, incompetence and greed.

Best wishes

(Labour Party Guy)

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 January 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link

"the Party abstained so that it could introduce amendments that would have substantially reduced the worst aspects of the bill in terms of potential human rights violations"

lol, well done adults

calzino, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

yeah, total rake in face stuff

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 January 2021 23:36 (three years ago) link

"and Labour is the only Party that can save it from their corruption, incompetence and greed."

to roughly quote the great Cornel West : " I might be a prisoner of hope, but I wasn't born last night!"

calzino, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:14 (three years ago) link

"if a moment of crisis, institutional failure and rising despair is not a time to think big, when will be?" Quite.

lol when the John Harris quote about you is otm, that's when Kieth really needs to start worrying. But fuck it instead of thinking big let's just project an even more timorous version of Milibandism while a 1000 people are dying a day and millions of people are falling through the cracks of an inadequate social security system. Does team Starmer think he's so special that he can succeed where Ed + Broon failed? let's just try it again anyway because he can eat a bacon sandwich like an authentocrat and even looks like bacon

calzino, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 08:27 (three years ago) link

It's worth remembering that at this stage of his leadership Ed was miles ahead in the polling and it makes you wonder how fragile Starmer Labour will be when his friends at the Torygraph start putting the boot in and he'll be all sadface: c'mon lads ..it's me. When the Graun starts cuddling up to Jeremy Cunt as opposition that is a strong indictment of not just the lousy fucking Graun, but also Starmerism.

calzino, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 09:01 (three years ago) link

If you can take questions about the "Great Replacement' from Gemma in Ibiza for Talk Radio you can leave your comments on, good Sir Knight. https://t.co/H5A5HZcydM

— KateMcK (@TheKateMcK) January 25, 2021

calzino, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 11:03 (three years ago) link

"Starmzy"

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 11:25 (three years ago) link

This is broader than Kieth but for the last few days i've been thinking that any government or would be government worth its salt should be starting to develop their vision of what reconstruction will look like for a state that's been economically and socially ravaged. That would be good material for a genuine opposition to start selling themselves to the public and hammering Johnson and co.

The Kiethite reality is that the electorate don't want vision or a better world, even a better world than the mouldering corpse of the UK in two or three years time. Expecting jobs and services and hope is, well, not what grown-ups do

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link

Was it you who boiled Kiethism down to TIG-esque "I'll do it better, just let me do it" and nothing more? Because I think that every time I see him now.

stet, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:38 (three years ago) link

(Especially important never to go anywhere near what "it" is or might be, obv)

stet, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:38 (three years ago) link

Things can only get better!

Exclusive: Labour Expects ‘Vaccine Bounce’ For Boris Johnson Ahead Of May Electionshttps://t.co/HxLGRuqKC6

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) January 26, 2021

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link


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