have you quit the labour party yet?

pom before Corbyn there were times when the Lib Dems were to the left of Labour on some positions, and not because the Lib Dems were good

Fair enough. I def wasn't paying attention to British politics during the Blair years, which all boiled down to complicity in the Iraq War when viewed from Canada.

Blair praised Thatcher, failed to address her assaults on the welfare state or trade unions and joined in several foreign adventures with death tolls in the millions which maybe offers some context to our feelings about Corbs

Starmer is auditioning for boris job, just not the way ppl would have imagined perhaps

Its not just that he’s terrible opposition at a time when opposition is easier & more needed than ever - I’m not even convinced he would have handled the pandemic much better in Johnson’s place tbh

The Leader of the Opposition should not be viewed as an audition opportunity, especially when there are elections in 3/4 years time. Why not press the government on what they are getting wrong on their response to the pandemic?

You could argue that national unity and all that rot had to prevail for the first couple months for purely strategic reasons but it's been almost a full year now, ffs. The death toll is staring you in the face.

Exactly, I thought I was going out of my mind when ppl brought up 2024 as a defence for “constructive opposition” bollocks. Kim there’s people that are dying!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErYM-eGXUAAWDdJ?format=jpg&name=large

Kieth you've really changed for the worst I'm afraid... I just don't love you anymore!

The free movement pivot is just milliband racist mugs b/w it was only ever about stopping Corbyn

80k dead is a larger amount than your average parliamentary constituency.

Size of constituencies by electorate

The number of people able to vote (the electorate) differs by constituency. The Office for National Statistics gives the average electorate across constituencies of about:

72,200 in England
67,200 in Scotland
68,300 in Northern Ireland
56,000 in Wales

he's alienating or taking for granted the support of young/BAME/putatively lefty/Remain voters (who make up the greatest number of the membership that elected him leader) to signal he's very conservative to people in so called Red Wall constituencies that mostly will just vote Tory or whatever latest Farage right-wing pressure group is called anyway.

it's outrageous that this week our health service is looking at breaking point in multiple regions and only last weekend Kieth and his melt-idiot shadow education minister were still insisting schools needed to open and Green was even engaging in some good old population blaming/shaming for how bad the rona is. Astonishingly forensic.

As Starmer has abandoned one part of this pledge, be very worth asking him if he still sticks by "Full Voting Rights for EU Nationals" who are in the UK , and the closure of Immigration Detention Centres #AnotherFutureIsPossible https://t.co/RrK81657oc

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) January 10, 2021

lol ofc he doesn’t. he’d take away my voting rights if he thought it would help him win over a racist pensioner in chingford

straight after winning the leadership of the party he said hated selling himself to the membership and was much more comfortable leading rather than campaigning. Another point where one's shady Tory-cunt warning system was ringing loud enough to deafen one!

Ha

1/ Think there are two ways of looking at Starmer saying there's "no argument for opening the [freedom of movement] aspects of the treaty".

— Paul Cotterill (@Bickerrecord) January 10, 2021

The first way is believe he's done a forensic reading of those aspects of the treaty and knows that it was worded in such a way that freedom of movement can return quietly in the next few years, and that it's best to let sleeping racists dogs lie in this respect.

can't tell if he's joking!

Chakrabarti’s Amendment 1 to the covert human intelligence sources bill in the House of Lords: content 153, not content 309. Chooses not to move Amendment 2. Labour told peers to abstain on the changes, which sought to remove the advance immunity proposed for undercover agents.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) January 11, 2021

Tommy Corbyn Tweeted about "Keith" today and it made him seem like a bit of a knobber, really.

He was Tweeting about Starmer wearing a purple tie, which seemed (to Tommy) to be a terrible thing.

I do think there were better things to slag Starmer off for today.

It’s ‘Kieth’ - surprised Tommy got that bit wrong.

* checks *

He definitely typed "Keith". And his dad was definitely fond of a purple tie.

Tommy Corbyn got jumped on by every aggro centrist out there for tweeting this, I think Starmzy can handle an incredibly mild dig about his tie

Remember when people slated my Dad for leading protests against this fascist instead of attending a state banquet with him? Funny that. https://t.co/mGHFALrOUB

— Tommy Corbyn (@TommyCorbyn) January 6, 2021

I'd be disappointed in Tommy if he didn't either call him "Kieth" or "Keith" or "Sir Haircut" or even just "wanker" will do fine.

he's only a citizen like anyone on here, being Corbyn's kid isn't exactly celeb status and he doesn't owe anything to the Labour Party, he's got just as much right to call him Keith as anybody has!

Maybe? It seemed a waste.

It's only a frivolous post on twitter, and it's not as if a more pointed attack on Kent Starmer from crobywins son is going make a great deal of difference on this current labour shitshow

He’s very sweetly protective of his dad and called Uncle Piers a knobber on social media.

lol poor Uncle Piers

when Corbyn was first elected as LOTO there was a short interview with Piers on Today and he sounded like a perfectly reasonable chap!

I had an Uncle a bit like him as in a total commie in the 60's-70's then a bit of a crackpot in his later years but he definitely wouldn't have been an anti-lockdown loon had he lived into this pandemic era.

3 days of food for 1 family...
Just not good enough. pic.twitter.com/Y7FJEFFAma

— Marcus Rashford MBE (@MarcusRashford) January 11, 2021

Marcus is still doing Kieth's job for him and all the dreadful nutrition experts with union jacks on their profiles in the replies clearly know fuck all about trying to survive on poverty money. It's not the LOTO's job to pander to arseholes like this, if you aren't brave enough to challenge a Tory govt on austerity then you aren't fit for the fucking job.

https://play.acast.com/s/mandatory-redistribution-party/mandatoryredistributionparty.podbean.com%2F25dc012f-600f-527b-8a4f-be12f3cfa264

this podcast is from last year but it came to my attention earlier when people were posting about when Prescott punched the farm worker guy with the mullet who egged him. It's not terrible and makes some very good points.

Piers is will represented in this documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erp2utEgZp4

... and also Tony Wakeford from Death in June/Sol Invictus!

Marcus is still doing Kieth's job for him and all the dreadful nutrition experts with union jacks on their profiles in the replies clearly know fuck all about trying to survive on poverty money.

Strikes me that with the current labour leadership we basically need a Rashford for every issue - any footballers wanna tackle not giving the homeless shelter during lockdown?

if only there were more prem footballers with 4m followers on twitter that aren't complete arses who have worked out how to shame and put political pressure on Tories, but Marcus is as rare as principled and decent MP's in the Labour Party.

It turns out Rashford's complaint is not true, because one of the companies involved says so.

There are a lot of people seeking to whip a storm up on Twitter tonight. Too much to hope in age of instant outrage to wait for the facts before jumping in. DfE are likewise investigating. https://t.co/XxExbHgSzx

— Simon Clarke MP (@SimonClarkeMP) January 11, 2021

I can't imagine some shady Tory donor company who are making a killing from poverty, lying out of their arses when they've been accused of immoral and corrupt practise .. no way.

Going out on a limb here but think the current horrible mess we're in is not as a result of two people having a socially distanced walk with a cup of tea or someone stopping to sit on an empty park bench for 5 minutes. https://t.co/R6hbY55eR2

— tom jamieson (@jamiesont) January 11, 2021

Dunno about that pic.twitter.com/S5ct5w7uWM

— Linus (@LinusRII) January 11, 2021

if gotchas on how long Johnson's been on his bike are the standard for UK political debate I think I'll skip the news for a bit

Strong whiff of Labour 96 to it

lol

Some very odd things going on around Starmer's Telegraph column. I happened to be on their website stealing content (disable JavaScript to stop the paywall) and saw his article. Ten minutes later it was gone. So I did some digging so buckle up: THREAD. But first the article. 1/?? pic.twitter.com/eSpmIyYfBy

— It's real 🍊 🍊 🍊 (@StefGotBooted) January 17, 2021

Latest from me: on a huge social & political moment, & the smallness of Labour's current response https://t.co/EFrqojkxFQ

— John Harris (@johnharris1969) January 24, 2021

And yet, you... but you...

In the eyes of most voters, the Labour leader is clearly a vast improvement on Jeremy Corbyn.

No effort to quantify or justify this whatsoever.

We'll see come May, yeah?

I couldn't quite work out what he was trying to say in the second paragraph, I thought 'union jacks' might be some derogatory term for a trade union leader.

christ almighty Harris gets stupider by the week

It's an odd mix of emotions this, that their handpicked guy has revealed himself to be essentially a small time gammonesque lawyer with no vision, principles or energy, but can take minutes in a meeting; my horror of it all mingles with schadenfreude and black amusement very discomfortingly. Harris talks about the smallness of Labour's response, but does not mention how towering Corbyn and McDonell were in the first few months of 2020, in Parliament no less. It's impossible to take him seriously without that comparison.

i don't hate myself enough to line by line that piece but next to the casual dismissal of Corbyn is a lot of guff about Kieth's so good at PMQ's it's a cliche - it's not a cliche, there's nothing obvious about it, and nobody who matters gives a shit. for a man of the people Harris can't help showing his disinterested sports politics insiderdom at every turn

Sometimes I think about Johnny Mc’s speech to conference and get devastatingly sad, like even more so than usual.

There’s an old trade union saying that “the cause of labour is the hope of the world”. Here in Britain it’s the Labour Party carrying that hope. The hope of a world where the riches of our planet are shared. The hope of a world with the chance for everyone to fulfil their full potential.

We won’t build that world overnight. And let nobody tell you it will be easy. Or that we won’t face enormous resistance.But I believe our time is coming. Time to start work on our historic mission to lay the foundations of that new world.

When they ask you some time in the future:

“Where were you when people were left to sleep on our streets?
“When families queued at food banks to survive?
“When the Tories tried to sell out our country to Trump”
“When climate change threatened our planet and our very existence?”
I want you all to be able to say

“I built the homes and public services our people needed”
“I made sure everyone was fed and cared for.”
“With nobody forced to endure poverty
“I saved the planet by tackling climate change
“I helped lay the foundations of a new society
“Foundations so deeply rooted that the Tories can never break them up”
And when they ask “how did you do that?” You can tell them: “I supported Labour, I joined Labour, I voted for Jeremy Corbyn. That’s how.”

Solidarity.