who is Bob Lefsetz?

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was june so long ago?

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Sunday, 10 January 2021 02:45 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

lefsetz weighs in

When are we gonna let this guy out of the doghouse?

Let's get very specific here, and leave emotions aside. What Wallen said is vernacular that is used in the black community all the time, the N-word is a part of hip-hop culture and employed on recordings. That does not make Wallen's usage right, but it does speak to intention.

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

"guys it's been TWO WEEK" is certainly a take

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

What did Don Henley sing, that it was about forgiveness?

We need some of that here now.

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

It's been possibly years since I've read anything by that guy, but whoo-boy was that terrible. Not even the (bad) ideas, it's just so terribly written, like a grandparent's facebook screed on something they don't understand. "Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of 'Batman Vs. Superman.' It's too busy and too glum, with erratic editing and a tone out of tune with its comic book origins. But Zach Snyder is the most gifted filmmaker we've had since Michael Bay and Brett Ratner, and if we don't give the guy another chance we'll be missing out on some of the best movies ever made. Plenty of people make bad movies, but do we cancel them? No. This cancel culture is out of control. If we cancelled people for being stupid and making stupid decisions and saying stupid things, then everyone would be cancelled, even me. And then who will write your newsletters?"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

i'm sure lefsetz would be metoo'd by now if anyone gave enough of a shit about him

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

What did Don Henley sing, that it was about forgiveness?

I looked this up. Turns out that what he sang was

We got the bubble-headed bleached-blonde comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye

stilt in the wings (sic), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

i'm sure lefsetz would be metoo'd by now if anyone gave enough of a shit about him

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, February 23, 2021 4:11 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lefsetz is a digusting dweeb, but what makes him even worse is the legion of music industry-adjacent boomers who nod along to his every word

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

industry-adjacent boomers

just found my new band name, tyvm

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

"Black Myself" doesn't qualify for hip-hop world, even though, as the title says, Amythyst Kiah is black herself.

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 27 February 2021 03:47 (three years ago) link

oh boy, i would really appreciate it if he wouldn't write about amythyst kiah

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 February 2021 04:04 (three years ago) link

Once again, once Amythyst starts to sing you're immediately woken up. And sure she's black, and gay, but that's got nothing to do with what you hear on the track, as a matter of fact as powerful as the lyrics are, they're secondary to the power of the track.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 February 2021 04:21 (three years ago) link

And sure she's black, and gay,

i'm reading this is that sarcastic "sure you are" eyerolling tone

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:39 (three years ago) link

oh boy, i would really appreciate it if he wouldn't write

Fixed it for you.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link

lol okay.
no, amythyst kiah is actually great and great live so i don't want him near her

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 February 2021 03:36 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Reinventing The Oscars

1. Include TV

cool

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link

How else can his old man shows like BOSCH and those Israeli dramas get the recognition they need?

beamish13, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

When I used to go to school, and I'm never going back, we never started before Labor Day. School in August? Unheard of. August was still SUMMER!

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

"And we LIKED IT!"
https://i.imgflip.com/1fpg3n.jpg?a452496

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

So I disconnected the Bridge attached directly to the ethernet cable twice, but that didn't work, but then I remembered there was a Bridge hidden on the stereo rack and I unplugged and replugged that and voila! I can hear music! But then the desktop app asks whether I want to update it and I'm worried it's going to install the new app which won't work with one of my old Bridges but I took the risk, and it all worked. I need everything to work. Of course I could have just used the iPhone app, which was up to date and worked fine, but I'm a stickler, I get satisfaction when everything works right, it makes me feel good, it's that extra one or two percent that gets you to the ultimate, which was what I was trying to achieve listening to this new MoFi Ultradisc vinyl Eagles album, but...

It sounded great, but it sounded slow.

Would like to hear Wallace Shawn read today’s letter.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 26 September 2021 05:22 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

And Kelefa Sanneh, the "New Yorker" writer, has a new book about major labels and "Seven Genres." Sanneh was born in 1976, if he wants to write about hip-hop, fine, but what does this guy know about the history of rock and roll, this is the guy who popularized the inane word "rockism." Huh?

We were addicted to the radio, to music in a way almost no one is today. And we didn't go to the show to shoot selfies, it wasn't about us, but them, the people on stage.

... (Eazy), Monday, 25 October 2021 02:47 (two years ago) link

christ what an asshole

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 25 October 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link

"if he wants to write about hip hop, fine" is pretty fucking odious

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 25 October 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link

Wow fuck that

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 October 2021 03:07 (two years ago) link

WOW

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 October 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link

What does this guy know about the history of Rock'n'Roll, this guy who is <checks notes> 45 years old?

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 October 2021 04:45 (two years ago) link

really gross

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 25 October 2021 10:10 (two years ago) link

lefsetz says some silly inelegantly-expressed things but he doesn't strike me as a bad person. popism was a not so thinly-veiled attack on boomers so let's not head for our fainting couches when a boomer gets ticked off.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 25 October 2021 12:45 (two years ago) link

are you a boomer yourself

Murgatroid, Monday, 25 October 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link

And you were fans of certain acts and bought their new albums without hearing them first. But then you listened to FM radio to find out what else was great. That was the culture, you needed to know, the country ran on music, maybe the entire world. The musicians were testing limits, pushing the envelope, and then it all imploded. It was a golden era and you only know this if you lived through it and most people did not and get it all wrong.

This feels to me like someone who judges the current state of literature by what books are sold in his supermarket

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link

Based on what I saw in said section yesterday in Walgreens, it's a lot of shirtless cowboys.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 October 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link

But I like Cormac McCarthy

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

how does this guy make his money

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

first they came for the boomers and i did nothing, for i was not a boomer

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link

how does this guy make his money

Doesn't he give expensive speeches to tech executives and corporate scumbags older than himself who want to feel clued-in?

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link

I wonder if he gets a percentage of the streaming money for “Fuck Like A Beast”

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link

Sanneh was born in 1976, if he wants to write about hip-hop, fine

sanneh's next article: why hiphop exposes all previous genres (and their fans) to be the assholes that they are.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link

There’s “out of touch Boomer,” and then there’s “telling a Black music critic he should stick to hip hop.”

... (Eazy), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

are you a boomer yourself

i guess? 63? old enough to think that deliberately misreading his (admittedly silly) comment on age as being about race is disingenuous.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 25 October 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link

ok boomer

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 October 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link

the rap against ageism

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 October 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link

I just finished the Sanneh book. It's good, and it's nothing if not well-researched. It's about more than just one generation's perception of rock 'n' roll, which may be what throws Lefsetz. Also, it's explicitly about the evolution of the major genres from 1970 on so it's not trying to tell the whole history of rock 'n' roll (although there's some backtracking to provide relevant context).

Not being that familiar with Lefsetz's schtick, I would be curious when exactly in his opinion "it all imploded."

Josefa, Monday, 25 October 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

when exactly in his opinion "it all imploded."

When they stopped playing Doobie Brothers deep tracks on the radio.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 25 October 2021 20:51 (two years ago) link

the exact moment he crossed the 50% baldness threshold

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 October 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

When he caught WRKI I95 NOT playing three Led Zeppelin sings in a row without a commercial break on “Get the Led Out Monday.”

Typo? Negative! (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 00:48 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

it's important to remember who the real victim is here!

So this ignorant punk uses the N-Word. He's so dumb and uninformed that he doesn't realize only Black people can utter it, like Dave Chappelle at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony. But Wallen, like the rest of young America, has listened to a zillion rap songs, he's invested in the culture, because hip-hop is American culture, but since he's living in the boonies he doesn't know how to behave, what he can say or what he can't. It's not like he used the N-Word as a put-down, in fact it was as a term of endearment. That doesn't justify its use, but the penalty here far outweighs the crime.

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

i think i'd like to start an online harassment campaign to get this fucking dunce to just shut up. I'VE HAD ENOUGH DAMMIT.

please don't refer to me as (Austin), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link

lefsetz can't be canceled because nobody knows what the hell he does

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link

that's what i mean, i don't want him to be "CANCELLED" or whatever — just stop talking, friend. we're all tired of it.

please don't refer to me as (Austin), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link

nobody knows what the hell he does

Professional Cloud Yeller At-er

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link


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