Are you considering purchasing a gun?

Shooting at the range or having access through a neighborhood safe that is NOT IN YOUR HOUSE takes away most people's supposed justification for having guns IN THEIR HOUSE, which is, someday the zombies/people I look down on will come for my family and I will be Liam Neeson when the fact is no one is coming for them and they and their entire family are way less safe with a gun in the house.

Noobs.

"like, i fucking LOVE coffee, "

I said this same argument wrt playing basketball and milo replied with some bullshit about how Chinese workers died making basketballs or something

like, i fucking LOVE coffee, and i would give it up today and suffer terrible headaches and fatigue and crankiness for months on end if i knew that coffee was very bad for everyone else, and that coffee was only available because me and my whiny coffee-loving friends paid dues to a lobbying organization to corruptly keep it available for me, just me, for me me me, because they loved coffee so fucking much that they didn't care what it did to other people

― Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 January 2021 20:32 (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well i mean start listing

Drugs
Alcohol
Animal fats or whatever

Shooting at the range or having access through a neighborhood safe that is NOT IN YOUR HOUSE takes away most people's supposed justification for having guns IN THEIR HOUSE, which is, someday the zombies/people I look down on will come for my family and I will be Liam Neeson when the fact is no one is coming for them and they and their entire family are way less safe with a gun in the house.

exactly! the reason the "rent-a-gun" idea doesn't fly is because that's not the primary reason to have a gun. it's an excuse

NB im not making an argument for guns im just not sure about that argument against them but obv feel free to disregard

no, i gotcha - it's not the most solid argument. but please, see some of my earlier, better arguments. i am more of a tracks poster than an album poster

Lol <3

Lmao Karl

Doesn't that make you more of an album poster?

i guess i mean that my albums are really too long, but some of the individual tracks are ok, you just have to sift through the garbage a bit to get to it

90s still a top decade imo so you have my full support.

I feel the same way about guns as I do about nukes - I'd rather no one have any but if they must exist I don't only want (cops/the USA) to have 'em. but I don't have any dependents and don't care THAT much if I live or die so I'll probably never buy one.

My point re: lived experience around guns and in a gun friendly culture (which is... very not-rural) - an innate terror response to the idea of being in proximity to a gun is not the norm among Americans and expecting/demanding one isn't going to get you very far in whatever your goal is, likewise to the idea that anyone owning or considering the purchase of a gun has to be prepared to become Charles Bronson.

Gun laws up to private ownership of guns are not in my top 30 political issues either way - ban them, don't, godspeed. I have no intention of owning a gun again, unless I'm given a hermitage in the woods where I'll be required to hunt for meat.

No, but i'm considering purchasing a nug

an innate terror response to the idea of being in proximity to a gun is not the norm among Americans and expecting/demanding one isn't going to get you very far in whatever your goal is, likewise to the idea that anyone owning or considering the purchase of a gun has to be prepared to become Charles Bronson

I think everyone is aware this is the reality. and here we are

man alive just going to shoot people in the legs presumably

american gun culture seems totally normal and fine

leftist gun clubs

It's an education, this thread.

well, for some. others just seem to carry on assuming that whatever culture they grew up in is a norm seemingly without challenge

You think American gun laws are bad but then look at SWITZERLANDDDDDDDDD we should aspire to be more like Switzerland why aren't we all like the Swiss why oh why.

I have wondered a few times what the attitude toward the parkland teens is since a lot of the us left decided the whole gun thing in america was fine actually

American gun laws are inextricably tangled up with white supremacy and patriarchy/masculinity and the whole toxic broth is too much for me to be interested in. But then I know no one is coming for me (probably) so I guess that's easy for me to say.

I expect the Biden admin to close the ‘gun show loophole’* which is a good law (if only partially effective) and was (as of a couple of years ago) supported by a majority of gun owners. Plus you can sell it to gun dealers as free money since they can charge $25 to do a little paperwork and make a phone call.

That’s the kind of thing that can be built on, I’d think.

*barring Manchin and Sinema interference

an innate terror response to the idea of being in proximity to a gun is not the norm among Americans and expecting/demanding one isn't going to get you very far in whatever your goal is

America is a large diverse country. ... A couple months back a young woman with a baby in the car was killed in a drive by shooting. Not sure the baby lived either. She was pregnant, and the fetus also died. No idea why she was shot. Then there are all the people killed by police with guns. ... It is just too easy to kill people with guns. ... So, Karl, where can I order one of those nuclear warhead coffee tables? I think it would go well with my industrial boho interior design aesthetic

oops - killed a block away from my friend's house. He was one of the first people to respond.

leftist gun clubs

50/50 as to whether I'd be in one if I was amurrican

What if you were Albertan.

Man alive, does your webmail work?

I feel the same way about guns as I do about nukes - I'd rather no one have any but if they must exist I don't only want (cops/the USA) to have 'em. but I don't have any dependents and don't care THAT much if I live or die so I'll probably never buy one.

― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Saturday, January 9, 2021 4:05 PM (four hours ago)

lmao hell yeah we are gonna equality our way outta this pickle

xp man alive -- I would take the class(es) and then make up your mind whether you indeed want to be a gun owner. Seriously.

― sarahell, Saturday, January 9, 2021 2:51 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

In seriousness, this is more likely the path I would take, if I start down that road at all. Obivously seeing people storm the capitol in 6MWE and "Camp Auschwitz" tees is a bit shaking, and my post was a reaction to that.

Man alive, does your webmail work?

― Pere Legume (the table is the table), Saturday, January 9, 2021 6:37 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh shit, I haven't checked it in like a year, have to see if I remember the pw

answer: yes, it works

pertinent
https://thenib.com/mlk-vs-rfw/

https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/03/11/gun-owners-welcome-a-new-addition-to-the-club-liberals/

20 minutes later: conservative gun owners kick out new addition to club liberals

a sign with weapons spelling out “Love.”

Could have at least gone for Live Laugh Love, maybe with a different kind of gun for each word.

you'll have my love when you pry it from my cold dead hands

If you can't beat 'em, shoot 'em.

lol

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/05/us-gun-ownership-black-americans-surge

I am hopeful that this current surge in gun ownership will defy all prior experience and actually lead to a reduction in gun deaths

surely this etc

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/04/08/npr-as-asian-americans-seek-safety-from-a-rise-in-attacks-some-look-to-guns

has there ever been a thread to share your experiences of having guns pulled on you? i'm always surprised how many ppl have a experience with this

I had a guy flash a chrome semi-auto at me in traffic once, the woman in the car with him proceeded to hit him with her purse (for being a dumbass, presumably).

damn, hope that Biden zinger was worth it

saw a dude in front of me in line at Burger King adjust his sweatpants and he had pistol jammed in the back of his waistband. my main thought was how the hell does he keep it from falling into his pants?

the power of the purse trumps most things xxp

Not pulled on me, but on two different occasions I've been sitting on the CTA train and had a guy walk slowly up and down the train car, pulling up his t-shirt to reveal the handle of a gun in his waistband, clearly trying to make sure everyone saw it.