Ariel Pink

can we make this Type Of Guy extinct now please. they've had enough indulgence from the music press over the last 50 years

I only know him because he played (pretty good!) bass in a friend's band and was pretty lowkey, never heard his own tunes but yeah he seems to be long gone.

RIP

It pretty obvious this guy has always been a scumbag, but it kind of amazes me that he would pick now of all times to blow up his career over Trump.

I feel like Pink indoctrinated Maus into this bullshit. Though perhaps that's my wishful thinking

whats the over/under on him playing a trump rally in 2021

weren't there sexual assault accusations?

I just don't see "For Kate I Wait" blaring from loudspeakers at a MAGA rally.

I used to adore his music but his misogyny has mostly ruined it for me at this point. Everyone who's pointed out that the MAGA stuff is in keeping with his whole contrary asshole schtick is otm. I'm disappointed that I gave him a pass for as long as I did and for not being more critical of Maus by extension. Makes me wonder about Jorge Elbrecht, too.

Wait, he’s got an album called Pom Pom? :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErGLlCaXMAA-uyL?format=jpg&name=medium

is the woman famous in some way?

Ariel's daddy:

https://amp.insurancejournal.com/news/west/2014/02/02/319158.htm

wow holy shit

love the can of yuengling

Always wondered what was going on there... his dad was active on Twitter in the following years: https://twitter.com/marioros?lang=en

Daddy issues appear to be a prerequisite for becoming a (male) alt-right shithead.

This made the LA Times - https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2021-01-07/ariel-pink-attended-trump-rally-capitol-riot

Ariel’s just pissed his Dad lost his inheritance.

— Rich Wyman (@realrichwyman) January 7, 2021

“welcome to the panoptigan,” he tweeted, possibly meaning panopticon

lol brutal

Rosenberg was one of three doctors accused of performing more than 1,000 unnecessary surgeries.

jfc

...including his lobotomy c/o Fox News

gah

*son's

https://www.quilterlabs.com/images/quilterimg/productimages/26/1_-_left_front.jpg

Have the LA Times used this photo because he looks like such a prick here, or are there loads of photos as bad as this?

Indie musician Ariel Pink defended his attendance of Wednesday’s Trump rally in Washington, D.C., that resulted in an assault on the U.S. Capitol. https://t.co/SsetgCVN3v

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) January 7, 2021

He usually looks like even more of a prick.

Jews who hang out with neonazis will never fail to disturb me.

is the woman famous in some way?

― goole, Friday, 8 January 2021 6:59 AM (fifty-three minutes ago)

she's alex moyer, a filmmaker who wants ariel to score her next film apparently

Lol her only directorial credit is an incel doc called TFW NO GF so courting Pink at this point seems on brand

Apparently "Alex Moyer" is also a notoriously annoying roommate to have on The Sims.

https://www.laweekly.com/underage-drinking-on-christmas-eve-with-ariel-pink/

9:22 p.m.: Ariel was bullied when he was younger. He thanks his bullies now, because it taught him to grow a thick skin.

“I was a harmless little pipsqueak,” he says. “But thank goodness I had to experience that stuff. It made me who I am. I don’t want any injustice brought against the bullies. Bullies just don’t know any better. Anyone who is crying about police brutality or victimization as an adult needs to stop it and realize the privileges we have in this country.”

Jesus @ his father, what a piece of shit.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.athwart.org/interview-alex-lee-moyer/amp/
“To me, it just comes down to people who are free thinkers vs. this new soft-core authoritarianism we’re living through, which is mostly just about the mainstream media and not even the general public. People just get called “right wing” anytime they don’t fall in line with the woke/liberal narrative.“

this thread is gonna be at the top of the new answers page all weekend isn't it

oh my god the antiwoke stuff just comes off an assembly line at this point jfc

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJwyTvylGIT/?igshid=vhcg1rw4cky4

lol this is tailor made for inzaniacs

One fun thing is the idea that Ariel Pink will get cancelled over this. He was "cancelled" almost ten years ago, that hasn't stopped him yet.

Still sad about John Maus tho'. Gonna be sad about John Maus for some time.

true. i still listen to "pitiless censors" on the semi-regular

One fun thing is the idea that Ariel Pink will get cancelled over this. He was "cancelled" almost ten years ago, that hasn't stopped him yet.

Tbf, I did see at least one venue on Twitter say yesterday that he's never coming back to their space. Apparently he had an indefinitely postponed show still scheduled from 2020 that was to be made up at some point, but they pulled the plug on it.

This will definitely change how both he and Maus are covered in the indie-rock press which I imagine would not be a trivial change for them

My point is more about why they were letting him play their space in the first place. We all knew he was a misogynist vicious awful bigot already. If they're happy for him to play then, but not when he's a Trump-supporting misogynist vicious awful bigot, well, their politics don't seem that strong to me.

I get it. But finally getting cancelled for a less valid reason is still better than not getting canceled at all, no?

Honestly, I don't know. Right now I'm just feeling a bit fatalist, like, it only matters if people make a big deal of it, and only for the amount of time it's in the news cycle, then everyone forgets again and he goes back to playing and being written about normally, and it's all useless and nothing changes.

The LA Weekly profile on AP is substantially worse than being a Trump supporter imho (nb: that profile suggests there is ANOTHER v. unflattering profile of him in their archives).

I get the pessimism emil.y but short of inventing a time machine to go back and force the issue ten years ago, I think we just have to settle for him being deplatformed a decade too late.

I suspect the avant/arty sheen on his stuff has helped protect him, a lot.

I read most of this thread yesterday and it was v demoralizing to see how far back the calling-out and subsequent hand-waving went. It was also instructive though, showing how '10s culture could be a trojan horse for vile ideas (the 2012 argument I mentioned earlier was about AP espousing what we'd now unhesitatingly call incel ideology in a Wire interview) and how fandom aligns people who might disagree on politics in other contexts but become united through their affection for an artist: you can see posters communing upthread in their enjoyment of the music while their defenses of his public rhetoric range from "he's a creep but I love the tunes, hope he stops doing interviews" to "what he said is fine."

I didn't play videogames when gamergate happened, and found it easy at the time to be unsurprised by and contemptuous of sexist/racist gamers. So while I've never liked AP, it was useful to see the dynamic play out over the years on this message board I know well and feel mostly at home on. TBC: I'm not saying any ilxors were radicalized by AP fandom and I'm not trying to shame anyone for liking his music years ago, I genuinely found it useful to see how culture could operate in this way.

Again I couldn’t care less about Ariel Pink because I didn’t already. John Maus hasn’t released anything that I care about in a decade, but I still think “we must become...” is a great album with many songs I love like “hey moon” or “believer”. There’s many instances where I can separate art from artist but the ideologies from the alt right are so toxic and irredeemable that it becomes a killjoy and it’s naive to blame this on Ariel Pink’s influence over a 40 year old man.

it's telling that even now I still think of AP as a clueless art kid, he's 42 lol

almost an OAP