Is it? It guaranteed his family a bunch of dough forever.
this was likely guaranteed long before this deal
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 10:23 (three years ago) link
Because I’m painfully fair, I must amend my above remarks to note that Aswad apparently reports on non-Hipgnosis publishing deals as well.
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Friday, 8 January 2021 07:33 (three years ago) link
(This other company, Primary Wave, is that one that Stevie Nicks made a deal with last year.)
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Friday, 8 January 2021 07:35 (three years ago) link
Is he right about consumers spendling less in point 3? I was under the impression that revenue was actually rising in the streaming era. Official trade body seems to think so https://www.ifpi.org/our-industry/industry-data/ that it’s not necessarily going to the right people is a different story as on the numerous Spotify threads.
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 8 January 2021 08:58 (three years ago) link
Fleetwood Mac's complete and total transformation into the The Eagles is totally sad, but it's probably been a balancing act since The Dance. The writing was on the wall when Stevie and Mick tried to replace Christine fucking McVie with Sheryl Crowe. Members are fungible and profits are all that matter. It's a boomer nostalgia clown show. And I don't that Lindsey is the only trouble maker in the band and deserved to be fired. Stevie chucked a steel chair at Christine in 1987 and has done her fair share of rotten shit.
― HuskerDoolittle, Thursday, 1 April 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link
glad i got to see them all on stage around 2013
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 April 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link
At the least the Eagles still have Joe Walsh. I'm not an Eagles fan, but I'd rather go to their show than a Fleetwood Mac that's been turned into the Stevie Nicks show.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 1 April 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link
As I see it The Eagles have always been very openly corporate. Don and Glenn never try to hide it while FM tried to foster an image of a dysfunctional incestual family, but a family nonetheless. Joe Walsh is the only reason to see The Eagles. Don Henley has always been a wet fart. Mick and Stevie also fired keyboardist Brett Tuggle, who had a close working relationship with Christine and then laughably replaced him with her solo touring keyboardist. It's sad to see that Christine is done. She's a ridiculously good writer and never got her due because her ego wasn't huge and Stevie, Lindsey, or Mick's. She's pretty much retired. RIP Fleetwood Mac.
― HuskerDoolittle, Thursday, 1 April 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link
After Peter Green left, Danny Kirwan and Christine were by far the best things about Fleetwood Mac, and with Kirwan soon gone, she carried the band IMHO. Bob Welch was okay, he had a few songs I really liked, but she was a far better and more consistent songwriter as well as a far more appealing vocalist. You can compile a truly great Christine McVie solo album from the best songs she wrote for FM before Buckingham and Nicks came on board, and afterwards she and Buckingham edged out Nicks as the best songwriters for the group. I can't imagine going to a show if Christine and Buckingham are truly gone, not unless someone else is paying.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 1 April 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link
I once burned a 2 CD comp of Christine's songs in FM and it's just ridiculous how consistently great her songwriting is. The problem is that money is in touring and Stevie puts butts in the seats, therefore she gets to make all the executive decisions. Fleetwood Mac only tours and records an official Fleetwood Mac album when Stevie says so. It's a crime that Christine's last appearance on an official FM release was 31 years ago. Now Mick Fleetwood is trying to put together a ramshackle Fleetwood Mac tour involving all remaining Fleetwood Mac members. Nuts.
― HuskerDoolittle, Thursday, 1 April 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddLKaiGDPIg
fantastic imo
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link
He's such a consistently great writer/arranger/producer/player.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link
Beautiful, he don't miss. Seeds We Sow was his best album yet imo
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
As a Tusk lover who was ambivalent towards Law and Order, which Buckingham album might I like best?
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
Hmm, probably Out of the Cradle. But all the albums after that are great, too, or at least less uneven.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
(Less uneven than the first couple, that is. After those two it's pretty smooth sailing in Buckyland.)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link
Out of the Cradle's a solid intro if you know him as a band member; even though he plays or programs 98% of it himself, it's not as minimalist as the others.
Go Insane is a fascinating boomer-goes-new-wave moment though the songwriting's more wan.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link
Yeah, was going to recommend Go Insane if you haven't heard it. It's about as ambitious as Tusk but completely different sonically--very 80s neo-psych, closer to Tango In the Night
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link
Iirc, very "hmm, what does *this* button do?"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link
I agree, Out of the Cradle is excellent.
BUT, the Solo Anthology is a great compilation, and I'll add that I never thought *that* highly of solo Buckingham until I got that three-disc set and listened to it from start-to-finish. I was skeptical of the whole thing - THREE discs? c'mon - but seeing it on clearance convinced me to give it a chance, and man was I wrong. (To be clear, it's more like a two-disc set with a great live disc as a bonus.)
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link
(And to be fair, a lot of Out of the Cradle is on Solo Anthology - it really is an excellent album)
yeah it’s great.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
“street of dreams” haunting af
I almost nailed the acoustic intro to “don’t look down” years ago
― brimstead, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link
My new self-titled album is one I’ve been intending to get out for a couple of years now, but on more than one occasion, unforeseen circumstances necessitated a postponement of plans. Now that we’re back in gear, I’m thrilled to finally be sharing this new music with my listeners!
In other words, "my new album is once again stuff I'd been sitting on for potential use on a new Fleetwood Mac album, but now that they've gone their own way, I'm keeping them for myself."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link
how many buckingham solo albums that could have been parts of a respectable enough late career FM album if he'd been able to get the others on board are we up to now lol? & of course he managed to get everyone except stevie on board for buckingham mcvie
will also rep for out of the cradle & go insane, both very enjoyable stuff. love "don't look down"
― ufo, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 00:58 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcOZfU4PVCg
looked up the out of the cradle tour and why does he have 5 guitarists lmao. great performances though
― ufo, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link
that's how many it takes to duplicate his one guitar and mullet
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 01:14 (two years ago) link
xpost His fabled guitar army! Iirc, he infamously didn't play "Countdown," the single, on the tour. But here it is (with house band) doing it on Letterman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzVtMdpxYWM
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 01:36 (two years ago) link
That Center Stage thing, btw, I know people who were at that show, and apparently no one was allowed to leave, with some songs getting multiple perfectionist takes.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 01:41 (two years ago) link
Letterman With The Longbox!
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:00 (two years ago) link
Whatever bubbles bubbles up
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link
Lol
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link
Tix on sale tomorrow for a rescheduled show that we were supposed to see in May 2020 but will now be September 2021. Seen him solo twice before (along with once with FM), he's one of those guys I'll pretty much go see every time he comes around.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:31 (two years ago) link
Does he ever do his crazy picked version of "Big Love"?
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link
He does. He also often does "Holiday Road" replete with dog barks.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link
i've seen him do the fingerpicked "big love" literally every time i've seen the mac and him solo, to the point where i'm like idk man maybe retire it and translate "murrow turning over in his grave" to solo guitar instead
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:39 (two years ago) link
jk the fingerpicked "big love" is amazing, hits every time
I remember pulling up the tab when I was 16, not having heard that version yet, and thinking I had it.
Then pulled my mom's copy of The Dance out and realized he was playing at 4 times the speed I had learned it at.
Love that piece but yea I guess it'd get old after a while!
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:50 (two years ago) link
I was bored with acoustic "Big Love" by late '97 when I saw him live -- so much so that the programmed Mac version is underrated.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:50 (two years ago) link
Not big on synth version. I need fingers
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:51 (two years ago) link
Nah. Just one finger to program.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link
Plus: Arthur Baker!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfpPUsfmVO4
Yeah seeing him multiple times some of the shtickier stuff gets old, but he's still a blast to just watch and listen to.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 05:02 (two years ago) link
Meanwhile, I started clicking on headlines about his divorce to see how many used some version of "going his/her own way," and the answer is all of them.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 05:05 (two years ago) link
Quick reminder LB’s girlfriend during the Rumors/Tusk period wrote about his abuse in her autobiography.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 05:58 (two years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, June 8, 2021 8:34 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
sorta assumed he was referring to his recent health issues here
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 09:15 (two years ago) link
I think, as a decades long master of passive aggression, that he means both health *and* getting fired by Fleetwood Mac. Hence the addition of "on more than one occasion." Ie, lest you think this was just about health, here's a bonus fuck you to FM. But certainly from "Tusk" on, every FM album has been filled out with more or less solo Lindsey tracks. Maybe not "Mirage," that one seemed to be a conscious attempt to return to a "band" album, but after saving their bacon so many times I think he had had enough after that and went into full time FM mercenary mode. Which was probably healthiest for everyone concerned, until it wasn't.
I've seen him live solo a few times, with FM once, and on that McVie tour. The differences between him solo and with the others was nominal, he just does his thing and does it well and everyone else falls in line. There's a reason both times they've had to replace him with *two* ringers. Speaking of which, that new song sounds like something Neil Finn would write ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 12:04 (two years ago) link
Yikes, divorced again? It's not like I know them, but given all the photos and upbeat messages both of them posted since his emergency heart operation, it didn't seem like a split was coming anytime soon.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link
And after 22 years or something right? Also sounds like she filed for divorce from him. Maybe that's why he sold his gajillion dollar Bel Air mansion. Going to get a bachelor pad.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link