Bill Evans: Classic or Dud?

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*about straight ahead

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 00:58 (three years ago) link

Gomez and Morrell were both fantastic. I think they lived in the shadows of LaFaro and Motian, unfortunately, and also the fact that, as you said, they became prominent when no one cared about straight ahead piano trios.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link

When it comes to Bill Evans I'm more Riverside Recordings 56-63 till the death! Although from that later trio the live in Italy 1969 - Autumn Leaves album is a really good set, probably should check out some more at some point.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link

I always have been too, but got curious about the later stuff.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

man, been listening to that Tokyo set all afternoon and it is a+++, thanks for the rec Austin

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 7 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

it is really nice

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 January 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link

awesome. glad you guys are digging it.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 8 January 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link

One of my problems with Bill Evans (and I mean in the sense of "my problems" not a problem I have with *him*) is that I tend to really sink into and get lost in his music and that's not always ideal when I have work and family responsibilities. Something about it really sucks me under.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 8 January 2021 02:39 (three years ago) link

he has that effect at times, yes.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 8 January 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link

fwiw I've also been dabbling around in The Last Waltz - The Final Recordings at Keystone Korner 1980. Even those are excellent, maybe not breaking new ground for Evans but in no way phoning it in either, full of wonderful energy.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 8 January 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link

that's mostly second sets, as he was playing two per evening. here's the other half. it's just as good.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 8 January 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

Just read this today. It's a really nice interview. Bill Evans is not only a wonderful musician but incredibly eloquent and insighftul about music.
https://jazz.fm/rare-interview-with-bill-evans-recounts-the-story-of-miles-davis-and-kind-of-blue/

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 9 January 2021 02:57 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

the live set set from argentina 1973 made it to streaming recently, so listening today. nothing revelatory of course, but it's the morrell+gomez band, so you know it's good. all the calling cards are here: "re:person i knew", "waltz for debby", "my romance", etc etc. the bobbie gentry tune it's titled after was still in the setlist, so that shows up as well. just ... big sigh. always such a pleasure to hear this band.

But Beautiful is still in my regular rotation (never left since it arrived), so i am super pumped for this. thanking you austin

Karl Malone, Saturday, 27 August 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

"two lonely people" is a monster loneliness jam, glad to see it on this set as well

Karl Malone, Saturday, 27 August 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

eddie gomez takes a bowed solo on that one.β™₯

Thanks Austin, enjoying this one!

The last Bill Evans thing that blew my mind was Symbiosis, his 1974 third stream suite with lightly funky grooves and long, snakelike horn lines. Nothing else sounds quite like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwlG4OciNm4

J. Sam, Saturday, 27 August 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/H5yFP6l.png

Karl Malone, Sunday, 28 August 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

"hey baby, ya like minor sevenths?"

three months pass...

you know what? i will not apologize for being a total cliche but i think it would be in everyone's best interest if we could all just cool the fuck down for a minute. please and thank you.

that being said: FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY.

tl;dr- affinity, co-billed to bill + toots thielsmans from 1979, is wonderful music and highly recommended for the season.

thank you for listening.

it's getting to be that time of year where i start hearing christmas music around and about. again.

i know i've kind of memed myself in the past over it and i would like to make absolutely clear here: i do not like holiday music for reasons that have to do with mental health issues. i am a person living with a mindfuck of a psychiatric disorder so severe that i am ashamed to say by this point, however: yes i am clinically "triggered" by the song santa claus is coming to town.

and when i say "triggered" it means i'll probably physically remove myself from the immediate area without communicating anything. please do not try to stop me. i need to gtfo basically. i'll probably be babbling incoherently the whole way. i'm not proud of this and it's extremely distressing while it's happening. but it's a part of life for me.

and it's only *one* of the "holiday classics" to inspire that sort of involuntary (but necessary) reaction. that's just the heaviest hitter.

(no, i do not want to see christmas music banned or only allowed in certain spaces or whatever else. it's my issue and i need to acknowledge it and cope. just keep going.)

did you know bill evans--

--the guy who inspired me to start using the term "therapy through music"--

--the guy who played so gorgeously, but with such ingenuity, that even miles davis put up with him for a while--

--the initial person who inspired me to seek refuge in a world i'm ill-equipped to understand or deal with by diving into music and following one's own heart as enthusiastically as possible--

--only ever played one christmas tune?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbnF-xyQInc

"santa claus is coming to town" (1964)

despite the overbearing plastic facade of most christmas music not really blending well into bill's idea of music, this one made it into the setlist for a while. he is basically like the musical buddha or dalai lama to me. how did this happen? alas, so be it.

but anyway.

there's two (wrong) cliches about bill evans: 1. he played sad music and 2. by the 70s all he ever played in was the trio, so it all sounds the same.

1 is subjective, so i'll get to it.

2, otoh, is only true if you're listening to live stuff exclusively - and, even then, there's a few things in there that are not just the trio. i mean first of all, the multiple duets albums with eddie gomez. smirk

but seriously: most of his 70s studio albums expand the band or find him playing with a different group entirely. he used the studio in the 70s to do things he either wasn't able to or didn't feel comfortable with live, collaborate, or just try different ideas.

i want to have music on in most situations. when i was employed at an elementary school, i played music in my room as much as possible. other staff relied on work internet for music, so when the district decided to block streaming sites i was already running my own setup. it just happened to be december and i was playing this album and one of the older staff who made me extremely uncomfortable happened into the room and asked how i was able to get christmas music playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW7ohttsfng

"the other side of midnight (noelle's theme)" (1979)

"sorry. . .what??" was all i could muster.

i guess they heard the combination of sappy chords and a wistful mood and assumed it was holiday music? idk. it was weird. i was flustered but doing my best. subsequently, it was a totally frustrating boomer moment for them- not understanding what a personal digital music player i brought from home is, how it works, and, most importantly, sorry idk how to put it but this isn't even christmas music.

"well it sounds like it could be!"

does it? idk. what does christmas music sound like if you can't hear the words or there aren't any words? if all you have is a title and that's the only identifier that it's christmas music - well, what if it doesn't sound like it otherwise? and what about this case? nothing to do with a holiday theme whatsoever, and yet.

i don't know. all i know is that similar things have happened with affinity on more than one occasion.* recorded in new york city in the fall of 1978 with toots thielsmans and larry schneider sitting in with the working trio of the time, it is a damned gorgeous album. sometimes bill plays this fender rhodes run through a very bubbly phaser and he duets with toots' heavily reverbed harmonica; it's easy to love i suppose. "tomato kiss" is a bit of an outlier, but otherwise they just cool tf down and play some seriously mellow music, with some seriously good vibes. heck, they even do a harmonica rendition of "blue in green."

it helps me.

can't recommend it enough. play it year round, but fool yourself into thinking you're a normal person who likes "christmas music" by listening to it in december.πŸ‘πŸ»

*this has also happened once with bjΓΆrk's vespertine

ten months pass...

Found this buried in a 'to-read' list and damn it's good: Steve Silberman writing about his obsession with 'Nardis' https://www.thebeliever.net/broken-time/

A mild warning that it Leans pretty heavily into the 'tragedy of Bill' narrative*, including a pretty graphic description of his death (*pretty hard not to if you're going to tell his story, I guess).

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 28 October 2023 20:52 (five months ago) link

read this on the train today and really enjoyed it, thanks for sharing, also made me miss The Believer in a big way

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 30 October 2023 14:06 (five months ago) link

five months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/GqmEUZ5.jpeg

brimstead, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:40 (one week ago) link

man. ahmad jamal rocked tf outta similar-looking plaid suits around the same time.

not something just anybody can pull off. maybe it's a piano player thing?

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 7 April 2024 17:58 (one week ago) link


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