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The illusion of control is the biggest conspiracy theory of them all imo

Telly Salivas (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

The trusted journal Fortean Times had a recent editorial about how the mainstream media is treating current conspiracy theories as a new form of moral panic (specifically Q-Anon, 5G, Vaccine chips, etc.), thus giving marginal fringe groups much more coverage than they probably warrant... and disseminating their influence far more widely than some back alley message board ever could.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link

I also think there's a growing cadre of voices, from Trump on down, yelling that mainstream media sources are fake, and so other 'news' sources, from Newsmax and OANN to randos on youtube, are being sought out as the alternative. My neighbor is a well educated attorney and a very nice person in most instances, but she's totally down the 5G/vaccination rabbit holes.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link

Yeah I think balkanazation of the news media, which is part of a larger trend of mistrust in authority and expertise, feeds the growth. It's funny to witness, after decades of it being the Left denouncing Big Brother, don't trust anyone over 30, the govt started AIDS etc...to see the patriotic Right get on the bandwagon. And steer it straight towards Crazy Town obv.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link

in other news, there is some kind of crackpot theory that Helen Keller was a fraud (?) apparently taking root w kids? idk what is this world anymore

thread here:

Guys, something insane happened to me today.

I am on a text chain with my teenage nieces and nephews along with my mom (their grandma) and today my mom asked them if they knew who Helen Keller was...

And their response was that Helen Keller was a fraud who didn't exist.

— Daniel Kunka (@unikunka) January 5, 2021

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link

A whole ton of comments under that story pointing out that this particular poster has a history of trolling though, so I'm gonna proceed with caution.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:29 (three years ago) link

The Georgia Guidestones... wt actual f?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

I'd never heard of this until yesterday when I was talking with a friend about how she'd gone for a coffee with an old friend of hers and how the conversation had turned somewhat weird. Now, she's known this friend for years but they only catch up with one another every now and again, this friend has always been religious but is now super religious. So, they were talking about Brexit (of course) when the friend said Brexit was just a smokescreen for what is really going on in the world - the smokescreen being a product of an elite of the Vatican(?!), global bankers (naturally) and, er, some other people she couldn't remember, the clue to all of this being the Georgia Guidestones. I think my friend sort of nodded along politely but I think when she was told the 2004 tsunami was manmade because some scientist in the early 20th century had shown you could manufacture tsunamis by drilling into the earth and dropping some sort of device into the earth's crust and the whole thrust of the Georgia Guidestones and the elites behind it is to drastically reduce the world's population, she demurred. Apparently her friend invited me and her to visit at her house out in Sussex, I said if you think I'm spending a weekend with an insane person you can forget it.

There have been developments in this story, this friend of my friend is now a rabid anti-lockdown activist and anti-vaxxer - apparently she is refusing to take the COVID vaccine because it changes your DNA and also because Bill Gates. They've been keeping in touch and she wanted my friend's email address so she could send her 'background information' on the pandemic - I advised strongly against this! Anyway, so they chatted recently and my friend said she was happy to give her email address but she didn't want sent any stuff on the pandemic and they agreed, but her friend asked her if she didn't mind if they talked about what she was going to send her instead. One of her big things is Agenda 21, which I don't think has been mentioned itt yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

You can google it and find out that it's a favourite among right wing loons, the gist of it being the usual one world government/ one religion stuff, but with added niceties like people being forced off their land to live in boxes (literally) in cities. This woman's main brainworm though - which is connected to Agenda 21 but also to the Georgia Guidestones in some way - is that the elites are working to reduce the world's population to 500 million people (or something) by any means possible. Also, there is some connection to the Illuminati and the Book of Daniel. You know what they say, you can choose your family but you can't choose youur friends.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:18 (three years ago) link

apparently she is refusing to take the COVID vaccine because it changes your DNA

Did she cite any peer-reviewed papers to back this assertion up?

fish quits shock (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link

It's true, I took Moderna's and now I'm a toad

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link

*croak croak*

Not used to hearing wildlife emit mating calls on ILX.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

(xxp) I'm sure it would be among the emails sent to my friend. By the way, another one of her friend's dad, who is in his 70s, is also refusing the vaccine because it changes your DNA.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

... so it's out there somewhere and people are believing it.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:35 (three years ago) link

Peer-reviewed? More like Piers Corbyn-reviewed! amirite

fish quits shock (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link

Yeah, it's among the chief 'concerns' being cited by anti-vaxxers at the moment.

xp

pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link

Changes it how?

fish quits shock (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link

Why am I asking

fish quits shock (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:38 (three years ago) link

Another connection, she's involved with the same anti-lockdown group that Piers Corybn is involved with though she seems considerably madder than even Piers.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:39 (three years ago) link

Good luck explaining the difference between mRNA and DNA. Apparently a now-deleted hour-long YouTube video by a 'natural healing consultant' is responsible for this particular brainworm.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link

Trying to get a CRISPR Mills joke in here

fish quits shock (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:43 (three years ago) link

Sounds like she's one step away from stalking a member of the royal family

fish quits shock (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:44 (three years ago) link

I came across this one last night and it felt oddly comforting – a callback to a simpler, gentler time:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/kuouoa/i_know_someone_that_works_for_noaa_the_disclosure/

pomenitul, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link

The pharmacist in Wisconsin who purposely destroyed 500 doses of the vac believed the "changes your DNA" thing.

nickn, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link

There is some shitty new movie on Netflix with roughly the same plot as that reddit thread so this is some JJ Abrams level astroturfing.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 03:41 (three years ago) link

Netflix Hulu

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 03:43 (three years ago) link

Hunu

Ole Blueyes Solskjaer (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link

ctHulu

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 03:57 (three years ago) link

Lol

Ole Blueyes Solskjaer (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 04:00 (three years ago) link

Lol Albert

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 04:27 (three years ago) link

That DNA theory sounds suspiciously like an ignoramus having read or heard about the Pfizer vaccine using synthetic messenger RNA to teach the body how to combat the virus and morphing that correct information into it 'changing your DNA', because all that DNA/RNA stuff is all so complicated and confusing to people who don't understand the first thing about it.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 05:11 (three years ago) link

Which would make you wonder who had access to the vaccine storage areas. I thought you did need to have clearance tied in to previous medical training.
& you would hope that training might get rid of superstitious ignorance.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 07:52 (three years ago) link

I'm a little surprised that Agenda 21's not cropped up here before, it's in some ways a really mainstream conspiracy theory, a heightening of "powers elsewhere are interfering with your life / your traditional lifestyle"

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:16 (three years ago) link

Agenda 21 a bit bland as names for global conspiracies go, should've gone with something more like Codex Alimentarius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alimentarius#Controversy

ledge, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 12:03 (three years ago) link

Population control seems to be a big thing in conspiracy circles.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 12:38 (three years ago) link

I'm a little surprised that Agenda 21's not cropped up here before, it's in some ways a really mainstream conspiracy theory, a heightening of "powers elsewhere are interfering with your life / your traditional lifestyle"


Planners have to deal with this shit all the time. Even putting in a bike lane is like, a step toward the One World Government.

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link

Conspiracy loons I've checked in on are talking about it mostly as "The Great Reset" rather than Agenda 21.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:26 (three years ago) link

"traditional lifestyle" of course being "what I'm used to within my lifetime"

fish quits shock (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link

There’s someone in my office building parking garage with a vanity license plate that says “End A21”.

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

where's "stevie wonder can see"

― the typo doer (Simon H.), Monday, October 5, 2020 4:47 AM bookmarkflaglink

I finally ran into one of these idiots last year

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

with a bicycle

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

Agenda 21 seems like they'd have a good happy hour

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

A really dumb dude in high school told me that Iggy Pop secretly died filming a “got milk?” commercial because of previously unknown lactose intolerance.

brimstead, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

A really dumb dude in high school told me that Iggy Pop secretly died filming a “got milk?” commercial because of previously unknown lactose intolerance.


OMG that's awesome. Why can't more conspiracy theories be as delightful?

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:14 (three years ago) link

that’s actually true, “Iggy Pop” has been played by former Vogue editor Carine Roitfeld since the lactose incident

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

Jennifer Aniston surely.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link

that’s what they want you to believe

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link

OMG that's awesome. Why can't more conspiracy theories be as delightful?

― Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, January 12, 2021 1:14 PM (sixteen minutes ago)

don't make me tap the sign

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link

I thought Aniston was in the Five, not the Stooges:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CA1EqsDUgAAcPpt?format=jpg&name=900x900

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

dumb false equivalence in the article, but the important thing is: Jewish Space Lasers.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 29 January 2021 11:23 (three years ago) link


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