"was the last one in some regional dialect"
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link
Why are you learning Finnish, btw?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link
Yes, the last one was regional. Can't remember where I found it again.
― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
I have a language learning hobby/compulsion/addiction and Finnish seemed interesting.
― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
After doing it for a little while I started to hear it in my head a bit "Anteeksi! Kittos!"
― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
Seems slightly easier than Hungarian, although maybe the grass is greener.
― Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link
https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/40208948/%E2%80%93-No-mit%C3%A4-kuuluu-%E2%80%93-Ei-kai-t%C3%A4ss%C3%A4-mit%C3%A4%C3%A4nWonder if the link will work. In any case there is an exchange of someone how another person is and the other person responding Ei kai tässä mitään, which seems to be some kind of idiomatic expression.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 03:43 (three years ago) link
Then there is also No ei se mitään
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 03:45 (three years ago) link
This one is a music referencehttps://forum.duolingo.com/comment/40273407/Laulussa-nainen-juoksee-yl%C3%B6s-tuota-m%C3%A4ke%C3%A4
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:12 (three years ago) link
Sorry for bothering you butKukaan ei ole seppä syntyessään.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link
No entä sitten?
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link
Valot, kamera, käy!
― The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 June 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link
https://uusikielemme.livejournal.com/5206.html
― My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 July 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link
https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/52895482/The-beds-are-in-a-hotel
― My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 11:27 (one year ago) link
https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/40715149/S%C3%A4ngyt-ovat-hotellissa
― My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link
https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/49786038/Ruoka-on-t%C3%A4%C3%A4ll%C3%A4
― My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 11:45 (one year ago) link
https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/40040461/It-is-quiet-in-the-empty-hotel
― My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 July 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link
Hän ei panne rikkaa ristiin minua auttaakseen.
― Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 December 2022 10:38 (one year ago) link
https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/39952634/grandma-and-grandpa
― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 January 2023 13:22 (one year ago) link
I recently finished every single thing in the Duolingo Finnish tree. Not that this means I know something.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:11 (five months ago) link
And Duolingo froze and then closed all those old forum posts.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:12 (five months ago) link
If I want to continue I guess I will use Clozemaster combined with some other things. Can’t really find a great dictionary anywhere though, at least in English, but did find on okay Swedish-Finnish done.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:13 (five months ago) link
On=an
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:14 (five months ago) link
https://kaino.kotus.fi/finsk-svensk/
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:15 (five months ago) link
Seriously considering giving the duolingo Finnish course a go. Did you consider it a difficult language to learn?
― emil.y, Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:26 (five months ago) link
Sure it’s difficult, because there is almost no vocabulary in common with any other language somebody might know.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:38 (five months ago) link
Pronunciation is not that bad at all though.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:39 (five months ago) link
Grammar is kind of challenging but Duolingo spoonfeeds you a selected set of cases.
Course gets tedious pretty quickly though
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:40 (five months ago) link
So I learned something, not sure what exactly. Now that I am officially finished with Duolingo Finnish I am graduating myself to Clozemaster.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:41 (five months ago) link
I've wanted to learn it for some time. My dad's mom spoke it as her first language (her parents came from Turku) and it stuck with her till the day she died. I still remember the sign she had on the kitchen wall that said "Tervetuloa meidän kotiimme."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:46 (five months ago) link
Perhaps weirdly, its isolation on the linguistic family tree is part of the appeal to me. I've never become fluent in other languages but am fairly capable at picking up vocabulary words - Finnish being so remote makes it a real challenge and a chance to pick up something completely new. The thing that tends to fuck me over with languages is grammar, so I always end up giving up once I've learnt a little and I doubt it'd be much different here.
― emil.y, Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:50 (five months ago) link
I have no idea whether Finnish relies more on word order, case declension or something else for its grammar.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:52 (five months ago) link
Okay then, give it a go!(xp)
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:53 (five months ago) link
Lots of cases, mostly.
Don’t try and learn them all (at once)
I guess "syntax" might be a better word than "grammar."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:54 (five months ago) link
There is one interesting word order thing though that is pretty important, I think.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:54 (five months ago) link
Because there is no definite article, a thing is shown to be definite by putting it towards the beginning of the sentence.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:56 (five months ago) link
For vocabulary you can also use drops or even dict.cc.
Definitely something fun about learning such a different language it’s true.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:00 (five months ago) link
I seem to enjoy it more than Hungarian.
Finns are, in general, more enjoyable than Hungarians.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:00 (five months ago) link
See, this is fascinating to me as a fact, I love learning stuff like this about languages. But you can bet if I ever tried to speak a sentence to a Finnish person I would forget it in an instant and produce a terribly incoherent mess.
― emil.y, Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:00 (five months ago) link
"I am with cheese, head fist."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:01 (five months ago) link
I bet their goulash is worse, though.
― emil.y, Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:02 (five months ago) link
The Duolingo Hungarian course is also notoriously bad so the Finnish approach is definitely an improvement.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:06 (five months ago) link
xp Right, Finnish goulash is not a thing.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:07 (five months ago) link
Finnish vodka, though
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:08 (five months ago) link
Saunas
Or maybe not, at least not in this case.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 19:03 (five months ago) link
Here’s a interesting word I just learned: luku, which means number but also means chapter and has something to do with reading.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 October 2023 19:45 (five months ago) link
Wiktionary seems to be pretty good for Finnish.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 October 2023 15:44 (five months ago) link
oh hi, I took two solid years of Finnish in college, ama
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 29 October 2023 19:50 (five months ago) link
plusses: every letter is always pronounced the same!accent is always on the 1st syllableno gender!
minuses:no prepositionswords derive meaning by tacking on suffix after suffix, it can be hard to parse
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 29 October 2023 19:53 (five months ago) link
I used to have an excellent Finnish-English dictionary but my college buddy who was also obsessed with the language appropriated it, I'm pretty sure it was a classbook.
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 29 October 2023 19:54 (five months ago) link
words derive meaning by tacking on suffix after suffix, it can be hard to parse
see also: Quechua
Ha, my good friend and neighbor is doing some serious Kichwa studies right now.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 October 2023 21:00 (five months ago) link
such a cool language, and weirdly very similar to Finnish in some ways! (letters always pronounced the same, accents in same place, suffixes add meaning)
my personal pet theory is that it's all from an original Mongolian source (Finnish, Hungarian, Quechua)
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 29 October 2023 21:02 (five months ago) link
Lot of extra texture detail in Wiktionary like this:Etymologyostaa + -os. Coined by Finnish author and journalist Pietari Hannikainen.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 October 2023 22:29 (five months ago) link
Note the use of the connegative with the negative verb:tulepresent active indicative connegative of tullaEn/et/ei/emme/ette/eivät tule.I/you/he/she/it/we/you/they don't come.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 October 2023 22:45 (five months ago) link
Käsi käden pesee.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 October 2023 22:47 (five months ago) link
Turpa kiinni!
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 October 2023 23:15 (five months ago) link
En voi muutakaan.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 October 2023 23:20 (five months ago) link
I can see from the leaderboard that people are really making use of Clozemaster for Finnish.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 October 2023 23:23 (five months ago) link
https://www.kielitoimistonsanakirja.fiMonolingual Finnish dictionary. Not for the faint of heart.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:08 (five months ago) link
Has everything and is superfast though.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:10 (five months ago) link
Oletko hullu?
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 October 2023 15:28 (five months ago) link
Neljä vuodenaikaa, kevät, kesä, syksy ja talvi.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 October 2023 18:42 (five months ago) link
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/v%C3%A4ri
Ihanko totta?
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:39 (five months ago) link
lämpöEtymologyBack-formation from lämpöinen. Coined by Finnish physician and author Samuel Roos and Finnish professor, poet and scholar August Ahlqvist in 1845.
― My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 15:52 (five months ago) link