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maybe you, like me, are eating too much ;)

โ€• superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, January 4, 2021 3:03 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

definitely got a case of the covid 15.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

paying close attention to my movements in non-virtual space is the only way I can get the results I want

co-sign mind-body connection, which screens are terrible for. mirrors on the other hand can be really useful ime.

it remains my firm opinion that if you're recording anything on your phone you're doing it wrong.

dean bad (map), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link

I have found mirrors to be very helpful as long as I don't use them constantly ... if I looked at a mirror every time I did a move, my attention would focus too much on my image and not enough on my sensations and proprioception

somebody once told me, "Don't trust the mirror, remember that it shows the reverse of what everyone else sees," and kind of blew my mind

Brad C., Monday, 4 January 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link

lol. i like the mirror for, like, macro corrections during yoga - seeing that a leg isn't really extending as far as it should, for instance. but yes most of the 'meat' of my exercise experience comes from connecting my consciousness to my body.

dean bad (map), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link

hey swoles what is a good way to get protein without resorting to shakes, bars, or a lot of calories. Other than lean meat/eggs/low fat dairy.

Protein holy grail please.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link

Oh and must be delicious obv

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link

you named all the possible sources?

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link

i mean other than beans but i don't like them as a protein source because you need to many calories to get as much protein as i would like

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link

i like costco sliced turkey as a snack that has as much protein as a whole meal would but very little calories

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link

Fish, seafood in general

Brad C., Tuesday, 5 January 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link

cod, tofu, edamame, and seeds maybe.

beard papa, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 00:51 (three years ago) link

goddamnit, plate-loaded dumbbells are still like a fucking million dollars each, why is demand still so high ughghdhghghg

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 18 January 2021 03:52 (three years ago) link

it will prob be faster to get vaccinated and wait for gyms to reopen than to try to source remotely affordable dumbbells

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 18 January 2021 03:52 (three years ago) link

lol ikr itโ€™s insane

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 January 2021 08:28 (three years ago) link

milk jugs and rice imo

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:02 (three years ago) link

but a full milk jug is only like 8 pounds and I want something in the realm of like 20-30 :(

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

ballbearings in a milk jug reinforced with duct tape for maximum dirtbag look?

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

three milk jugs each side, rope, and an old chinese man shouting at you

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

it's the marvel way

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

obsessed with this photo of my grandmother with her weightlifting class from a few years ago (finally, facebook memories shows me something good!) pic.twitter.com/bMiImanysA

— Claire โ€œkick the cops out of the AFL-CIOโ€ Lower (@clairelizzie) February 26, 2021

map ca. 1890 (map), Friday, 26 February 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

<3

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 26 February 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

thought: crossfit and "functional" fitness is more removed from daily usefulness than bodybuilding.

i watched a group of twenty somethings do shit like pull a fake sled with fake weight on it with a fake rope across a fake astroturf "field" and then do some complicated love-making maneuver with a heavy beanbag all while they were cheering each other on. they seemed to be cosplaying starship troopers. the "coach" had on a black t-shirt advertising a gun store. "still not legal in california" the back said.

at least bodybuilding is more honest about its ueslessness. it's somewhat more clued-in that it's decorative in nature. the decoration is the point, and the usefulness. the utility is in the aesthetics. it's fun to look buff. the only exercise that's "useful" to what i do all day in the sense of making sitting at a desk in front of a computer easier, or like doing the dishes, is yoga.

map ca. 1890 (map), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link

iโ€™m appalled you would question the utility of my perfectly sculpted triceps

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link

i agree wholeheartedly. most people don't have the endurance to keep properly doing an exercise for as long as those circuits require. i would rather do something at a reasonable pace like 6-12 times and stop for a while.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

Does anybody have a good lead on affordable adjustable dumbbells? The last year has been utterly disastrous for me between depression and my gym being a very early casualty of the COVID rent squeeze, and while I've tried, I find I kind of hate Ring Fit. I desperately want to lift again but the adjustable db's I'm seeing are either staggeringly expensive or out of stock everywhere :(

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

ugh i'm sorry. they're pretty much all expensive as hell afaict. can you look into another gym?

map ca. 1890 (map), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link

Is yoga really more beneficial than basic weight lifting? both can strengthen your core, help with balance, improve brain function etc

Heez, Monday, 15 March 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

although, sure, what you're referring to as weight lifting is more likely to result in an injury

Heez, Monday, 15 March 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

you're missing two things i said. i didn't say yoga is more beneficial overall but that it's absolutely more beneficial than weightlifting when it comes to sitting at a computer or doing dishes. for instance, spinal extensions and spinal twists--both exercises that help with lower back pain. it's hard to do an effective spinal extension or twist with weights. maybe if you're doing explosive movements but i'm not an olympic weightlifter, are you? strength is important and it's related to range of motion, but weightlifting almost always ends up over-emphasizing the strength over a limited range of motion, which creates problems over time.

also, the weightlifting i was referring to wasn't crossfit, which is bad. it's squats, deadlifts, bench press, etc.

i lift nearly every day and have for years. i do yoga nearly every day and have for years. the more i lift the more i realize that it really tends to exacerbate alignment problems that doing lots of yoga has made me realize i have. the more i see of aging people (mostly dudes) who lift a lot the more it confirms my experience, that unless they've discovered extensive active stretching to go along with it, their bodies are jacked up and their lifting ability is suffering.

the mind-muscle connection that yoga tends to reveal to oneself is monumental, in my opinion, and one that mindful lifting only scratches the surface of.

lifting weights feels great, is great for my mental health, is a great way to focus and redirect aggressive energy, plus looking sw0le is fun. yoga is what i do to tie my body together and keep it mobile.

map ca. 1890 (map), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

I am feeling super excited for getting back to the gym and geting sw0le again

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

๐Ÿ˜Ž

map ca. 1890 (map), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

ME TOO

i am gonna keep cycling on the menu, largely because i bought this stupid bike, but pushing cardio/endurance barriers doesnt have anywhere near the same mental health benefit as squatting heavy. also i like being swole.

map i suspect you are familiar with kathy acker's writing on bodybuilding which is kind of the only good writing on the subject

adam, Monday, 15 March 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

yeah!!!!!!

map ca. 1890 (map), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:26 (three years ago) link

and it really is like the only good writing on the subject and i looked around there for a few years lol.

map ca. 1890 (map), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

interesting, map. i'm in rough shape due to having two kids (1,4) and packing up my home gym for construction. all this led to me herniating a disk in my lower back while lifting a kid and having crippling sciatica for about two months straight. i've only been doing moderate walking and stretching so far but i think i'm ready for some weights. gotta be careful though

Heez, Monday, 15 March 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

and yeah, i agree that lifting without stretching is not a good combo, but i would say i find some of the mind-muscle connections you were referring to in weight lifting as well. i gave up pushing my max with weights a long time ago

Heez, Monday, 15 March 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

ooo yeah i'm sorry to hear about your herniated disc. have you seen a pt specialist? if you can afford it i would recommend looking into it. cat-cow might also be good to try? https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=cat+cow+pose.

map ca. 1890 (map), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

yeah i was referred to a pt specialist. a little hesitant due to the vid, but it's probably still worth it. my wife's pretty hardcore into yoga so been doing cat-cow and some other poses for a bit. it's a lot better but i really can't afford a setback at this point

Heez, Monday, 15 March 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

good luck!

feel like i've really opened up my lower back and hips lately. there's something about increasing my range of motion that feels like encountering a void and creating something there. i get the same feeling when reaching failure .. like i'm crossing over a threshold into a black hole where there's nothing at all, and by doing so i'm claiming it for myself. it's very gratifying.

map ca. 1890 (map), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

it's hard to do an effective spinal extension or twist with weights

hard and also dangerous ... if somebody really wants to do spinal extensions/twists with more than their own bodyweight, cable machines or resistance bands are much safer than hand-held weights

map otm on several points ... part of the problem is the "functional" label becoming a selling point without much clarity or consensus about what it means ... if a baseline is something like "ability to do normal human tasks across the lifespan," yoga is more functional than either CrossFit or bodybuilding

Brad C., Monday, 15 March 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

haha that's what i was trying to say but much more concisely.

map ca. 1890 (map), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

Exercised by Daniel Lieberman was a semi interesting read. Evolutionary anthropology perspective on exercise.

I am looking forward to a long-delayed return to running and lifting after a repeat knee surgery in two weeks. Rehab will be either 10 days or 6 weeks lol

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

anyone have any experience with periodization? i don't really follow a strict timeline with it but it's something like 2 heavy weeks, 1 light week. i just finished a light week and it was pretty necessary, i was getting ragged. definitely starting to notice some mechanical wear and tear these days. skullcrushers give me tennis elbow. my runs are starting to do things like make a small muscle above one inner ankle tender and upset. going back on the manual treadmill last week made my hamstrings angry. went running in the park yesterday, it was warm and sunny, adrenaline got me through some sprints. but today is a much needed rest day. think i'm ordering thai food for dinner tonight. i have been doing things like cutting out dairy milk and cutting down to one yolk instead of two for my eggs every morning in order to trim up a little bit. going to roleplay being a poolside palm springs daddy king in three weeks.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Monday, 29 March 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link

i had the best results of my life using variations of the 5/3/1 program. i am hesitant to recommend it or its creator or any website about it because something about lifting programs really brings out the intellectual gym bros and man they have lots of opinions. not just about lifting but their thoughts on life, or political correctness, or all lives mattering.

i had my second best results with the 1.0 version of greg nuckols' unfortunately named "average to savage" program. idk if its freely available but i enjoyed it. dude seems ok as a human being so i am more comfortable recommending.

nb i fucking love spreadsheets, making them and tracking stuff and adding formulae and tweaking stuff so i respond well to those kinds of programs. others may not find their joy in the same place as me.

adam, Monday, 29 March 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link

haha that's cool. i always go more by feel but that's probably not great for seeing the forest from the trees and giving me the benefits of forced variety.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Monday, 29 March 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

i make my own plan and rotate it every 4-6 weeks. make one that has all things that don't make your joints angry. i like walking lunges or bulgarian split squats (even with no weight these are brutal but don't hurt me), and swiss ball hamstring curls, any butt exercise of course. walking instead of running, whatever. after a month you will feel super fresh.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, 29 March 2021 23:35 (three years ago) link

back to the big box gym after working out in a crossfit gym for the last year. it's a lot closer. i was sick of driving 7 miles on a really shitty stretch of the freeway.

of course i commit a major sw0le pas on my first morning. the calf machine. i overloaded it a bit and on my second set, couldn't get it back up to the little platform it rests on. could not pull it back up and the machine is so designed that you can't slide plates off of it when it's down off its little platform. eventually i just sauntered away shamefully. :(

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

my cheap big box gym is kinda skanky but i love 1) the 5 hammer power racks with personal mirrors and 2) the fact that from 7-8 am on weekday mornings the huge group fitness room is empty, meaning i have it all to myself for yoga.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 16 April 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link

it's kind of funny how when i was younger i used to be a little intimidated by gym bros but now that 1) i'm 38 and 2) lifting heavier than almost all of them, i could not give one fuck and i stare past them all vacantly in between sets. helps to have huge-ass headphones on at all times. i do not understand the people who are just like yammering away constantly.

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 16 April 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link

this is a little embarrasing but i have been steroid-curious a few times over the last couple of years. that has come to an end after i ran across a series of excellent videos by a doctor who treats steroid users who are now sick to varying degrees. i'm posting one of the videos here just in case anyone else has thought about it. for a man my age it's basically asking to shut down my hypothalmic-pituitary-gonadal axis for life and take on a particularly sad addiction situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmbhz-L9mLY

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 30 April 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link


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