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Another thing I don't get is, does Superman not exist in 1984? Wouldn't he be flying around trying to do something about the impending nuclear apocalypse?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link

I did yell "WHERE IS SUPERMAN" several times at the television

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

Even assuming he's a kid still hiding his powers, you'd at least expect Batman to pop up somewhere

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

The global meltdown doesn't happen until after the kid wishes for Lord's greatness and Lord's connection to it is not mainstream knowledge at any point of the movie until he beams himself into every television in the world, so what basis would the mother have to invite legal repercussions upon herself by violating the custody agreement?

I just looked, and the final time the kid is dropped off with his dad (who is bleeding from the ears) people are literally rioting in the streets outside the office. It's around 90 minutes in. If he was dropped off, then his mom literally had to push through looters and lunatics and burning piles of stuff to get there. And then the very next scene is Max getting into his car, and the crowds being so thick with crazies (there for him, because he and his company is totally mainstream knowledge) that he has to have the driver wish they would part out of the way to get to the White House faster.

This movie is so stupid and bad.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 January 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link

I liked the final Cheetah look, but all the action/plot quibbles mentioned already, plus the escalator gag in the mall robbery and the preface of young Diana learning The Power of Truth had me grimacing. Thankfully, free with HBO/Comcast, so no buyer's remorse.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 4 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

I did yell "WHERE IS SUPERMAN" several times at the television

tbf, this works for almost every show

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link

xp to alpaca:

Thankfully, free with HBO/Comcast, so no buyer's remorse.

Julia Alexander expounded on this point recently:

Consumers are far less forgiving in a theatrical setting. On streaming services, however, that form of experimentation and possible lesser quality isn’t an automatic dealbreaker. Even if a movie is bad, the library should make up for the monthly price tag. Consistency and new titles are exciting, but the library retains subscribers.

The Mandalorian on Disney+ is part of the offering, but it’s not the whole product. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker is the entire product people are paying for in theaters. When Rey learns she’s Palpatine’s granddaughter in The Rise of Skywalker and people audibly groan, that’s a feeling of an $80 loss. When Luke Skywalker appears for one minute in The Mandalorian’s second season finale, it’s an eye-roll for some, but people are unlikely to stop subscribing to Disney+ — especially since The Mandalorian is almost universally praised for just about everything else. But The Rise of Skywalker and Solo may make some audiences more wary to go see the next Star Wars movie in theaters instead of waiting to watch it at home. (I use “may” because this is still Star Wars and, even though The Rise of Skywalker didn’t hit analyst expectations, it still passed $1 billion.)

https://musingsonmouse.substack.com/p/star-wars-nostalgia-fatigue-and-marvels

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link

Solo is basically the only good Star Wars movie made post-1983

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

FP

Nhex, Monday, 4 January 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

lol well there goes a lot of diligent avoidance of Rise of the Skywalkers spoilers so I could go into the movie with a semi-open mind

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

forks did you a favor there tbh

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Monday, 4 January 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link

Washington DC geography nitpicking: After Diana and Steve leave the White House (1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW), why do they go to the Navy Memorial (700-900 Pennsylvania Ave.) to witness the riot and for Diana to renounce her wish? If they're on their way to Diana's apartment, they've gone in the wrong direction. Pennsylvania Ave. at that time was open to traffic and was a regular destination for protesters.

(Presumably the contemporary powers that be wouldn't allow the production to film in front of the White House.)

Otherwise I'm quite amused at the production's attention to the details of a bygone DC. Pity the reconstructed Commander Salamander (across the street from the historic storefront!) couldn't have reopened for a promo popup.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

Another thing I don't get is, does Superman not exist in 1984? Wouldn't he be flying around trying to do something about the impending nuclear apocalypse?

Assuming WW84 is canonically continuous with Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, how old would Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne have been in 1984?

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link

Do those movies even have years attached to them?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

I thought Affleck was playing older than his actual age, given the artificially-greyed hair, so he would have been near the beginning of his bat career

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:12 (three years ago) link

forgot which thing mentioned it but he probably wished for his parents to be alive and then lost 'em all over again

Nhex, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

lmao I would have liked to have seen that

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

It would have been like that sequence in Teen Titans Go! To The Movies

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

ha, yes!

Nhex, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

Best superhero movie, that

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

there goes a lot of diligent avoidance of Rise of the Skywalkers spoilers

it's been out for over a year!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

“people audibly groan” / “an eye-roll for some” doing a lot of work in that... amusing analysis. Guess she’s not a Star Wars fan!

Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

she's been an entertainment reporter for The Verge and Polygon for the past five years with a specialty focus on Disney; i daresay she's watched and knows more about star wars than you or i do!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

I’ve only read the paragraphs you quoted but they don’t seem to make sense (the jibes at SW aside). Disney is investing hugely in new content for D+ specifically because “the library” alone doesn’t retain members. The library is thin... if you’ve had D+ for a year and have kids, you’ve seen it all already!

Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link

you know who really has that D+? Steve Trevor, amirite

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link

Steve Trevor's hapless 80s avatar, you mean

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

so like if he took over someone else's body, were they just along for the ride, with no body autonomy?

if so, I guess the only enjoyable parts were sexxin' with Wonder Woman, the rest abject terror.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link

lmao I would also watch that movie

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH oh hey sexy time AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link

Seriously. Body swap victim dude probably woke up with some really impressive bruises.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link

"I had this really weird dream where I was getting the shit kicked out of me by... Rumpleteaser?"

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link

Steve Trevor's hapless 80s avatar, you mean

I didn't even make it to Trevor getting mentioned, but if she's still pining for the D after one ride on it 70 years ago...

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link

Hey, come on, D+.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

It's D+ now

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link

I see some factions have started to insinuate people who don't like the movie are sexist.

― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Sunday, January 3, 2021

saddest stans

lol i didn't realize Maxwell Lord was in this. is he a presence in the JLA movie too?

― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, January 4, 2021

nah they use his name for no obvious reason and burn him to the ground in this one

Solo is basically the only good Star Wars movie made post-1983

― thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Monday, January 4, 2021

won't FP bc i'm sure you meant Rogue One

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link

I’ve only read the paragraphs you quoted but they don’t seem to make sense (the jibes at SW aside). Disney is investing hugely in new content for D+ specifically because “the library” alone doesn’t retain members. The library is thin... if you’ve had D+ for a year and have kids, you’ve seen it all already!

i think you're missing her point there, which is kinda close to yours: she's arguing that the size of the library is more important than the quality, whereas quality is more important than "is boba fett in it" in the theaters. that formula means disney can take more chances/do blatant fanservice/do dumb shit with greater impunity than if they try the same thing in a tentpole movie

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link


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