Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

The knobs who’ve pushed all in on the idea of DSA careerism are amazing.

I already joined the dsa and attended their general. It was filled with careerist speakers and ngo representatives. They made no attempt at greeting new members or reaching out personally to anyone. It was an entirely cliqueish affair. Totally dysfunctional org

— talk about unions now please (@dirtbag_atx) December 31, 2020

what do i do if i enjoy matt's politics takes but his art/culture takes make me want to never go on the internet again?

the safe answer is probably just to never go on the internet again

whenever he says "squib" skip ahead 15 minutes

https://newrepublic.com/article/160738/modern-monetary-theory-left-debate

(about Chapo adjacent internecine podcast drama, not just MMT)

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, December 31, 2020 4:03 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

it makes sense that a large portion of the US left would eat up some anti-tax pro-workfare snakeoil but it’s still depressing to me

As one listener put it on Twitter, their podcasts have “just enough Heidegger to confuse the economists. just enough economics to confuse philosophers. all of it not specific enough to even be wrong. an interdisciplinary mish mash making even the film theorists blush.” Likewise, another wrote, “*MMT humanities bro rips bong* MMT bro: the ontologic historical problematic mediates and reifies through the univocal application of a transhistoric monetary epistemology that mediates the primordial ooze that is ‘your hand’ and ‘toothpaste.’”

loool this is accurate

i like this substack a lot tho https://vebaccount.substack.com/p/production-dsirante-and-the-investment

this tweet quoted in the piece says it all really

*love* the MMT humanities guys. just enough Heidegger to confuse the economists. just enough economics to confuse philosophers. all of it not specific enough to even be wrong. an interdisciplinary mish mash making even the film theorists blush. am subscribing to their patreon

— BO H (@bo_austin_) December 5, 2020

(xp!!)

One paper by members of the Money On The Left project called for the creation of a Fed-backed, university-issued currency, known as “the Uni,” to both support operations and provide an academic jobs guarantee, insulating scholars from questions about whether their work is a worthy use of “taxpayer” money.

The Uni project is a model: Instead of funding the project by taking existing monetary wealth from rich people—and thus ultimately granting the propertied classes the privileged place they enjoy in our politics as “tax payers”—it undertakes public investment using the state’s unique money-creating power. This has some profound political implications: if investment in public projects like universities or infrastructure ultimately stems from the state’s money-creating powers, not taxes, then a politics that fully harnesses that power would make the rich politically irrelevant. The government still taxes, but to check inflation and accumulations of unproductive wealth.

so painfully dumb and embarrassing. this is as bad as the crypto currency people

but his art/culture takes make me want to never go on the internet again?

― shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili), Sunday, January 3, 2021 8:00 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is one of the primary reasons why i just can't

I mean I agree with him about squibs vs CGI blood but also that's a ten-second opinion at most

i don't listen to the show much anymore, but he's sparked a sub-bill simmons-level discussion on twitter about "dumb smart" and "smart dumb" film directors

nfc east / democratic party

- love sidelining their best players
- heavy presence in nyc and dc
- washington finally made least-they-could-do concessions in 2020 after decades of protest
- had a presence in texas a long time ago
- not interested in doing anything
- losers

— Jon Bois (@jon_bois) January 4, 2021

pic.twitter.com/5M99iGWA7V

— dr. professor kashiwagi, esq. (@kwamurai) January 9, 2021

I'm sure everyone is going to be super chill about this

haha what the fuck did they do?

Felix was extremely good at guessing the neolib nudges on the latest Patreon Trashfuture.

the Will Sommer episode was terrible, they should never have guests with both Matt and Amber on because they never get a chance to say anything

plus Amber started talking a bunch of specious conspiracy stuff right away and Felix's lol quit overreacting thing gets dumber the more we know about it

more and more it feels disjointed, like Virgil is basically done with it, Will, Matt and Amber seem to be going in different directions, Felix just seems to double down on saying "This [shitty person] is so rad" facetious schtick but often feels like he's probably just not paying attention

the movie watching episodes seem like everyone has fun with

man the QAnon Anonymous people found a rich, dependable lane huh

that video of matt super drunk from that livestream still gives me the creeps man lmao he's like poltergeist drunk

That's not just alcohol, trust me.

the QAA people were on vacation during the riot. lol.

sorry if wrong thread but loooool

Absolutely incredible. pic.twitter.com/NJRplehf08

— Marc ⛳️ (@ethnicohioan) January 10, 2021

Nick Mullen is the president of the DSA? or is this some sort of injoke incomprehensible to outsiders? Also I knew he dated one of the Redscare weirdos but is he uhh suspect or crypto fascist?

that is a long running joke

i think he dated the less shitty red scare weirdo

the people who think that the DSA either is, or has been taken over by, sexist male edgelords were also very anti-Mullen on twitter

so, the sarcastic joke is “yes, Nick Mullen, DSA president”

i think he dated the less shitty red scare weirdo

― here 1st (roxymuzak), Monday, January 11, 2021 12:19 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

he didn't, adam did

oops

QAA Capitol episode very good so far

Just got to the clip of Trump’s speech where he whines about Oprah before sending off his minions to try and kill Senators.

https://i.imgur.com/w8MIaFC.jpg

cuuuuursed

It's very Giamatti

Not unexpectedly so, tho

the show is very lazy and bad right now. please just do an episode about the khashoggi movie thank you

I watched First Blood the other night and was thinking that would be a fun one for them to do

Yeah it's absolutely wretched at the moment, barely ever funny at all and you can feel their "Actually, Trump was good" contrarianism master-class take coming.

seems like a stretch

well, maybe a stoned Amber could galaxy-brain her way there idk

I wouldn't go that far but it's embarrassing to hear them guffaw over anticipated fuckups and disappointments of their own imagining

I mean,,, $1400 after winning GEORGIA with the promise of $2k is kind of Charlie Brown purposely missing the ball

and let’s be real: 1400 probably ain’t happening either after it’s been poked and prodded and pragmatized to death

Matt's own streams are a mess right now too, but it's interesting hearing him trying to work out his thoughts

they were already on the "trump was actually good for foreign policy" a couple months ago then making chicken shit little asides to acknowledge that the drone program was worse under Trump and more secretive

they seem pretty invested in sticking with the "lol the capitol riot was nbd" despite more and more evidence we've seen since the day it happened continue to point to the fact that is was serious and coordinated

They're going big on the odds of little changing, seems pretty safe, and if they're wrong then they'll be happy about it. They're so dedicated to this that i don't think they bothered to mention Bernie's new job? I am owning myself now by thinking that could be anything at all?

sometimes i need to remind myself that they rake in $170k a month on patreon so they aren't exactly that worried

Are they cool with Sinophobia? It seems the online left was far more concerned with making fun of liberals worrying about Russia that they missed the boat on Trump’s new cold war with China. Just last week the US and Taiwan exchanged high level diplomats, breaking precedent since the Nixon era.

Bernie’s new job is indeed rad and lord please keep the angel of death from grandpa’s door.

xposts

I’m not on Twitter so can’t really speak to the online left but it did seem like Biden got clowned pretty hard for leaning into Sinophobia back in the spring and his folks kinda dropped that thread? (for now)

Just remember, there is no left

They sounded so reenergized clowning the $2000 $1400 stimulus plan. I think Biden is going to be great for the show. They're back, baby!

Yeah it's absolutely wretched at the moment, barely ever funny at all and you can feel their "Actually, Trump was good" contrarianism master-class take coming.

Dumb people have been predicting this since March of 2016 and yet...

The "online left" has been pretty consistent in opposing ginning up global conflicts, whether that's Iran, North Korea, China or Russia.

Just last week the US and Taiwan exchanged high level diplomats, breaking precedent since the Nixon era.

― Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:57 (two days ago) link

I'm not sure I understand tbh, diplomatic relations with a democracy should be seen as bad by the left because it offends a repressive authoritarian regime that puts minorities in concentration camps?