Free as a Dodo: UK Politics Welcomes 2021

Yes, I'm joking but...

xp I agree but they don’t seem too concerned about it? I wonder if there was the same concern about MMR vaccines where the spacing is years apart? My practice asked me (as they don’t have my vaccination records) if I had had the MMR booster, incidentally, and I said I thought I had but wasn’t sure, but they want me to get it anyway because there’s always outbreaks in the area.

Idk if we need a separate UK covid thread? There’s already a couple of covid threads knocking around and I’m sure I’m not the only one who eyerolls at the USilx tendency to have multiple threads of theirs on the go.

chalk up another U-turn in the 'wasn't forced by the labour party' column

should be no USilx threads on the go imo

Otm

We could have separate covid threads for each of the home nations maybe? Devolved threads, as it were.

And what about the Free State?

I didn’t have long to wait for them to fuck about with the second dose some more: apparently we are now going to mix and match vaccines?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html

without knowing much about the science of vaccination, that sounds very bad practise.

lmao we’re just going all-out to try and create a world-ending supermutant strain, never been more proud to be british

Maybe this is the real post-Brexit strategy, lay waste to the world so we're starting from a level playing field

The immediate issue again is not that these may be legitimate strategies for vaccination but that there's no communication or evidence coming from the government itself.

I'm sure our media will chase them up on it tho

Hopefully they’ll leak something to the Telegraph soon

I hate to do this again but (bold mine):

Previous incomplete vaccination

If the course is interrupted or delayed, it should be resumed using the same vaccine but the first dose should not be repeated. There is no evidence on the interchangeability of the COVID-19 vaccines although studies are underway. Therefore, every effort should be made to determine which vaccine the individual received and to complete with the same vaccine. For individuals who started the schedule and who attend for vaccination at a site where the same vaccine is not available, or if the first product received is unknown, it is reasonable to offer one dose of the locally available product to complete the schedule. This option is preferred if the individual is likely to be at immediate high risk or is considered unlikely to attend again.

In these circumstances, as both the vaccines are based on the spike protein, it is likely the second dose will help to boost the response to the first dose. For this reason, until additional information becomes available, further doses would not then be required.
Individuals who are participating in a clinical trial of COVID-19 vaccines who present for vaccination should be referred back to the investigators. Eligible persons who are enrolled in vaccine trials should then be provided with written advice on whether and when they can be safely vaccinated in the routine programme.

The good thing about the mRNA vaccine is that if you prime with it, you can boost with other types of vaccines (viral vectored, DNA, mRNA…etc). In the future, a mixed prime boost vaccine strategies can be tested to provide long term protective immunity. (9/n)

— Prof. Akiko Iwasaki (@VirusesImmunity) January 1, 2021

I'm thinking if we don't have a proper national lockdown again and close schools in other tiered zones outside of that there Londonium and the SE, then by mid January we might be having more daily deaths than in Brazil. They probably don't count many of the deaths inside their huge favelas idk, but still running close to fucking things up as badly as a country with 3 and half times the population and led by a covid-hawk fascist lunatic would be truly Global Britaining it.

Schools being open also gives rise to the mindset of 'oh well the kids are mixing in schools so it's ok to mix with their parents/break X rule' etc.
As shit as it is having kids off school, and I don't underestimate the longterm problems of this, I do think it's madness to send them back within 10 days of the Christmas free-for-all.
I'm pretty set on keeping mine off for the first week, whatever happens, even though cases are low in my immediate area.

it's very bad for the mental health of my son to keep him out of school and I can see how hard it hits him, but these are desperate times. Of course lots of these politician arseholes from Labour + the Conservatives who've previously been ruthless in their parliamentary voting on matters that badly affect millions of children are suddenly very *concerned* about what lockdowns are doing to their mental well-being.

So this is another reading of that nytimes article.

i've seen plausible threads saying this is worth doing, but it's being done because we don't have enough vaccines, which make the justifications look like policy based evidence making. https://t.co/n1qB3j6ReZ

— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) January 1, 2021

It does read like gyac says but perhaps because it is This Lot after all that tweet feels closer to it - they are giving doctors a way out a difficult situation: a situation they created by fucking up procurement.

Weren’t they boasting of having ordered 30 million vaccinations not that long ago?

Kinder’s right about the weird effect schools being open has on parent behaviour too. Even this week I noped out of a park because of the fucking big gaggles of parents. Tier 4, with schools shut, and apart from a scared-looking masked grandparent hiding in a far corner you really wouldn’t have known there was a pandemic on.

Unions are gunning for Williamson now. Pity nothing matters, that should have been an easy scalp

Unions should be gunning for Starmer as well, his job is to back them and put political pressure on the UK govt instead of expressing admiration for Theresa May's moral framework - the fucking waste of space.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqvcHLTXAAI0PF9?format=jpg&name=large

#Wes4Leader

#StarmerShits

the bed, or something similar trending

just be "buhbye dodds, hellow shadow chancellor reeves" no doubt

or more likely just boberto pesto being shithoused by left twitter shenanigans

I hope he's reading it and getting very pissed off

Hearing this leaked video may hold some clue to all the chaos this afternoon #starmerquits pic.twitter.com/ZbgnbclVRS

— So I Says to Mabel... (@ISaysto) January 2, 2021

fs lmaoooooooooooo

dead

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jan/02/battle-brixton-texas-dj-taylor-mcwilliams-electric-avenue-20-storey-tower-block

Sadiq Khan won't lift a finger.

ffs trust hilarity to break out on Twitter while i'm trying to watch the football

xp

yeah but at least he snubbed Trump, what a hero.

NYT seems to have fucked that tale just like gyac said, while BBC 5 Live has kicked off a scare about kids getting sick that the rcpch is trying to squash https://www.rcpch.ac.uk/news-events/news/rcpch-responds-media-reports-increased-admissions-children-young-people-covid-19

Sorry what happened with the NYT, stet?! I haven’t been online much today so I’ve missed everything

Such vultures lol

Anyone standing in the way of CVAs right now is an enemy of society. We ought to have tens of thousands of them. We've got a legal system that allows companies to go bankrupt then reappear as phoenixes with the same staff and owners doing the same thing, let's use it for good. https://t.co/jSY0ZqZtly

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) January 2, 2021

Nothing spectacular yet just lots of condemnation/calls to retract among media Twitter and general rinsing xp

Thanks for that reassuring link, stet!

Breaking News:

Teaching & Headteaching Unions have had enough. They’re commencing legal action against this government & advising teachers to stay away from schools until SAGE’s advice is listened too.

I stand in solidarity with them

— Claudia Webbe MP (@ClaudiaWebbe) January 2, 2021

politico asked uk politicians and commentators how they got through 2020

among a load of shite about family and takeaways and we’ll-stocked booze cupboards, there is this

Priti Patel, home secretary: “Showing the perpetrators of crime that they have nowhere to hide and joining our police on early morning raids — reminding the criminals that we’re coming after them. Supporting our front line and watching them keeping us safe has been humbling. They are real heroes.”

i wish i was fucking joking

https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/london-playbook/politico-london-playbook-christmas-special-how-they-got-through-2020-viel-hummer-kein-hammer/

I hope ms Patel didn't watch doctor who over the new year, it would only give her ideas.

The reason stories like that NYT one get commissioned is because in most of the world that's the narrative now: Britain is a dumbass that does dumbass things, look what they've done now lmao

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) January 3, 2021

'tolerable levels of death'

U.K. needs to confront

‘The challenge that faces us is to decide - are we going to try to pursue the elimination of Covid-19 regardless of the costs or decide on a tolerable level of deaths (like we do with the flu) in order to return to a normal life?’

https://t.co/9hWbHIPJUq

— Esther McVey (@EstherMcVey1) January 2, 2021

I can think of a few people whose deaths I could tolerate. This tweet brings one in particular to mind.

What could be worse than a Tory some might ask, well a fucking Tory-Scouser evil gobshite for starters.

The NEU called a members meeting and 26,000 registered making it the biggest union meetings in the UK ever, and one of the biggest political meetings in UK history too. As Zoom capacity is 20K they're live streaming it on Twitter, Facebook and herep https://t.co/cvYhX4rhOO

— Petros Elia (@elia_petros) January 3, 2021

someone tell Kieth there is a big kraut-rock revival going down on zoom.

nice krautrock event for people with a can do inclination

Lock thread

let's hear everyone's best impressions of keir starmer having sex

— Ed (@ted_pen) May 8, 2021

Labour's new strategy director... https://t.co/eakW0JIbvo

— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) May 9, 2021

lol