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― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
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― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
<3
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
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― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link
Anyone here read the “Wonder Woman: Dead Earth” miniseries? Sounds interesting.
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Thursday, 31 December 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link
it's good.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link
Guys.
They're changing Black Adam's name to
(hang on)
(wait for it, it's worth it)
SHAZADAM
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 February 2021 12:44 (three years ago) link
Gesundheit!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 5 February 2021 12:47 (three years ago) link
His mother's name will be changed to Shazmartha.
― shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 5 February 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link
Okay, u just about made me choke on my lunch there
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 February 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link
Holy shit
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 6 February 2021 09:32 (three years ago) link
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dc-comics-buyout-in-the-works-from-fans-with-lots-of-money/
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 12:54 (three years ago) link
(Also don't know why it didn't occur to me before but: Shazadam and Boogaloo Shrimp)
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 12:56 (three years ago) link
that sounds disastrous
― Nhex, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link
t/s: dc is run by a bunch of clueless rich assholes on a salary vs dc is run by a bunch of clueless rich assholes who also own the company
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/other-people-who-have-heard-about-the-big-dc-buyout-pitch/
So weird to think that there's a pool of high roller comic nerd venture capitalists floating around out there. Like they clearly have accrued their wealth from some entirely different, non-comics thing but for some reason comics are the toilet they're eager to flush their money down (to which I say: welcome to the club).
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link
gotta burn them $GME profits!
― Nhex, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
Bleeding Cool understands that it was former DC President Diane Nelson's decision to move DC Comics from relatively expensive offices in Manhattan to insanely expensive offices in Burbank that was the biggest factor in the decision.
I have been assuming this was likely a major factor, lol / nice to have it semi-confirmed
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link
Why are the offices in Burbank more expensive? (It's not mentioned or explained in the link.)
Some quick Googling suggests that midtown Manhattan is #2 in the country, while Burbank is much, much cheaper -- on average, of course.
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
DC moved from 666 5th (now owned by Jared Kushner, and a major liability that he's tried to leverage through various of his governmental roles through the last four years) to across the road from Letterman around... 1993? '95?
When Levitz left all the way back in 2009 and Diane Nelson took over, moving the offices to the West Coast was once again considered—and a whole west coast office that was staff-ready was already built— but Levitz, or someone, had signed such a long lease on the offices that to break it would literally have cost more than the move.
Dc Entertainment staff began using that Warners-built office in 2010; in 2011 they signed a https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-entertainment-readies-move-new-2051786 million lease even closer to Warner, but it took a few years to purpose-build another space in the floor they leased in that tower. In 2013, DC Entertainment and relocated DC Comics staff moved in; in 2015 DC Comics as a whole was moved to the west coast.
MAD was a major canary in the coalmine of my thinking, too.
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link
NB that Nelson told the Wall Street Journal in 2013 that the awkwardness of judging the office Halloween costume contest via video conferencing is what convinced her to require the entire New York staff to move a few buildings away from her, or to pay out their redundancies.
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link
Haha
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link
that linking glitch should say "$16 million lease" btw
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:18 (three years ago) link
Well, Nelson's sure sounds like an opinion one should throw millions of dollars at.Can we say for certain that DC/WB/AT&T isn't some Producers-esque scam whose architects desperately want it to fail? Because Occam's Razor suggests...
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link
AT&T seem all-in on WB; they've been aggressively remaking the studio (to the dismay of longtime staffers). I don't know how they feel about the publishing business, though.
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link
they are actively shopping the publishing business to dipshit nerd venture capitalists; estimates are $300 million to half a billion for print rights in perpetuity, no underlying IP.
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link
revenue streams! revenue streams!https://newsroom.spotify.com/2021-02-22/audio-brings-new-dimension-to-the-dc-comics-universe/
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link
these podcasts have been surprisingly successful for Marvel, so I guess why not
― Nhex, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link
Not 2020, but I've been reading John Ostrander's Legends miniseries from' 86, post-Crisis. Setup to launch new series, particular his run on Suicide Squad which I'm also reading. While that one's good, this series has got a lot of painful Len Wein dialogue. Vibe is part of the JLA and required to say "amigo" every other line. Also, I didn't realize just how early DC was doing the "public turns against the superheroes!" bit, as this feature Darkseid as the main villain utilizing G. Gordon Godfrey as propagandist. Boy, they went back to that well a lot in the past decade, didn't they?
― Nhex, Saturday, 6 March 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link
tbf that schtick is a old as the birth of marvel
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 March 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link
Sure, but it's something of a dividing line between them, I'd have thought?
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link
sure. DC was doing wacky superheroes well into the 80s before they caught the grim and gritty bug.
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link
his name was Ambush Bug, iirc
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link
POP!
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 March 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link
were early Avengers storylines like that or something? i haven't read the early Marvel stuff in-depth... though Spider-Man of course always had people hating him as a major plot element, it didn't have this particular feeling or nostalgia behind it
― Nhex, Sunday, 7 March 2021 04:39 (three years ago) link
X-Men were always hated and fearedAvengers and FF definitely had early storylines about them being good or badsame, as you say, for Spider-ManCaptain America is the only earthly hero who get off without suspicion in the early MU iirc
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 7 March 2021 04:41 (three years ago) link
oh, duh, X-Men. that's the most outstanding example for sure. but i guess, in my mind, since they and Spider-Man were hated from the beginning as outcasts/freaks/racial allegories it felt "baked in"?
in Legends, there's a scene where a brainwashed mob of "everyday" citizens beats the life out of Jason Todd and puts him in the hospital, I was surprised to see it
― Nhex, Sunday, 7 March 2021 05:23 (three years ago) link
caught him stealing their rims
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Sunday, 7 March 2021 09:10 (three years ago) link
DC officially done waiting for the floppy to die on its own, hastens its demise by raising cover price to six fucking dollars (for 40 pages): https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dc-increases-price-of-batman-monthly-comic-and-others-to-6-each/
― Clem McFlannery's Clam Phlegm Cannery (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link
This is even funnier considering that for the last six months, almost every DC book I've bought doesn't even scan for sale properly, due to all the distribution shenanigans that happened in 2020
― Nhex, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link
Also I bet those $5.99 books will still be crawling with ads. Let's pay for more Snickers advertainment!
― Nhex, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I thought the least concession they could make was to slap 'No Ads!' on the cover but I'm sure there's little chance of that.
Like god knows I do more than my fair share to keep the floppy market afloat, but if Marvel winds up going down this road, I might honestly throw in the towel. I'd like to think Disney isn't that stupid but maybe they're equally eager to kill off our beloved pamphlets and this is just the direction the entire market will go.
― Clem McFlannery's Clam Phlegm Cannery (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link
you've got to be kidding me
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
And with the Batman/Fortnite: Zero Point #1-6 priced at $4.99
BTW, the right way to do this would be to note that each issue has a "limited run" and then sell them as the collectibles they need them to be for that price point but they don't seem to give a shit
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
I guess it just applies to a handful of titles at the moment but it's a tremendously shitty precedent. Hopefully one that will blow up in their faces before it really takes root.
― Clem McFlannery's Clam Phlegm Cannery (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link
i presume they're curious to see how much if at all pricing impacts the floppy audience. They might not be wrong in assuming that anyone who already submits to the indignity of buying these pamphlets will buy three floppies for $18 instead of six for the same and bitch about it but put up with it.
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
Probably the latter, guilty as charged. (So much indignity, lol)Especially those Black Label books which sometimes use cardstock covers and bump up the price to $5 already.Hell, even TMNT: The Last Ronin (which wasn't bad, as a corny and fun deliberate throwback story) was printed in a semi-prestige oversized format at $7.99 per issue, which largely inspired me not to continue. This week I saw Batman: Urban Legends - a new anthology series which I would have tried at normal price - selling at $7.99 as well, and said no. In fairness, at least that book was 64 pages, but still... that's almost the price of a 200pg manga black and white volume.
― Nhex, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
With Rebirth their schtick was $2.99 comics - that was ultimately a failure so I guess they're going to aim higher.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link
A little corporate history and speculation on what happens next for DC: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dc-comics-warnermedia-discovery-1234954536/
― like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 05:52 (two years ago) link
(well, not so much speculation as “who knows?”)
― like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 05:53 (two years ago) link