DC Implosion II: DC Comics in 2020 and Beyond

are they gonna computer unage him or will batman be bald

this is a pretty good article about what we were just talking about:
https://musingsonmouse.substack.com/p/star-wars-nostalgia-fatigue-and-marvels
julia alexander's "Musings on Mouse" substack is well worth subscribing to

are they gonna computer unage him

I didn’t even consider this (just assumed it would be a Dark Knight thing); but now I’m expecting the worst, lol

xp is there a way to get that through RSS instead of email?

nah they're not gonna do it. assumed they're just make him Flashpoint Batman or Batman Beyond-era Bruce Wayne (like they did with Kevin Conroy in the recent Arrowverse crossover)

nm - found it searching on Feedly

They should bring back Val Kilmer.

https://static01-nyt-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/static01.nyt.com/images/2020/05/07/magazine/10mag-kilmer/10mag-kilmer-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg

as palpatine?

Unrelated, this new Superman looks like the dickhead from Accounts at a company barbecue:

https://variety.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/supermanandlois-suit-1-e1607554527118.jpg

Not a new Superman by any stretch as he has portrayed Supes on multiple seasons of Supergirl already. He's dece.

Cool. He still looks like he’s asking a receptionist to “put Deez Nutz on hold.”

it's on like krypton

I mean, the point is that he's Dad Superman. If you put a moustache on him he'd look like the dad from Inside Out, so job done.

Kyle MacLachlan (dad from Inside Out) actually has voiced Superman, so I guess it all ties together?

A somewhat younger MacLachlan would have perfect as a (live action) Superman / Clark Kent, btw

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<3

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enhance

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Anyone here read the “Wonder Woman: Dead Earth” miniseries? Sounds interesting.

it's good.

Guys.

They're changing Black Adam's name to

(hang on)

(wait for it, it's worth it)

SHAZADAM

Gesundheit!

His mother's name will be changed to Shazmartha.

Okay, u just about made me choke on my lunch there

Holy shit

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dc-comics-buyout-in-the-works-from-fans-with-lots-of-money/

(Also don't know why it didn't occur to me before but: Shazadam and Boogaloo Shrimp)

that sounds disastrous

t/s: dc is run by a bunch of clueless rich assholes on a salary vs dc is run by a bunch of clueless rich assholes who also own the company

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/other-people-who-have-heard-about-the-big-dc-buyout-pitch/

So weird to think that there's a pool of high roller comic nerd venture capitalists floating around out there. Like they clearly have accrued their wealth from some entirely different, non-comics thing but for some reason comics are the toilet they're eager to flush their money down (to which I say: welcome to the club).

gotta burn them $GME profits!

Bleeding Cool understands that it was former DC President Diane Nelson's decision to move DC Comics from relatively expensive offices in Manhattan to insanely expensive offices in Burbank that was the biggest factor in the decision.

I have been assuming this was likely a major factor, lol / nice to have it semi-confirmed

Why are the offices in Burbank more expensive? (It's not mentioned or explained in the link.)

Some quick Googling suggests that midtown Manhattan is #2 in the country, while Burbank is much, much cheaper -- on average, of course.

DC moved from 666 5th (now owned by Jared Kushner, and a major liability that he's tried to leverage through various of his governmental roles through the last four years) to across the road from Letterman around... 1993? '95?

When Levitz left all the way back in 2009 and Diane Nelson took over, moving the offices to the West Coast was once again considered—and a whole west coast office that was staff-ready was already built— but Levitz, or someone, had signed such a long lease on the offices that to break it would literally have cost more than the move.

Dc Entertainment staff began using that Warners-built office in 2010; in 2011 they signed a https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-entertainment-readies-move-new-2051786 million lease even closer to Warner, but it took a few years to purpose-build another space in the floor they leased in that tower. In 2013, DC Entertainment and relocated DC Comics staff moved in; in 2015 DC Comics as a whole was moved to the west coast.

MAD was a major canary in the coalmine of my thinking, too.

NB that Nelson told the Wall Street Journal in 2013 that the awkwardness of judging the office Halloween costume contest via video conferencing is what convinced her to require the entire New York staff to move a few buildings away from her, or to pay out their redundancies.

Haha

that linking glitch should say "$16 million lease" btw

Well, Nelson's sure sounds like an opinion one should throw millions of dollars at.

Can we say for certain that DC/WB/AT&T isn't some Producers-esque scam whose architects desperately want it to fail? Because Occam's Razor suggests...

AT&T seem all-in on WB; they've been aggressively remaking the studio (to the dismay of longtime staffers). I don't know how they feel about the publishing business, though.

they are actively shopping the publishing business to dipshit nerd venture capitalists; estimates are $300 million to half a billion for print rights in perpetuity, no underlying IP.

revenue streams! revenue streams!
https://newsroom.spotify.com/2021-02-22/audio-brings-new-dimension-to-the-dc-comics-universe/

these podcasts have been surprisingly successful for Marvel, so I guess why not

Not 2020, but I've been reading John Ostrander's Legends miniseries from' 86, post-Crisis. Setup to launch new series, particular his run on Suicide Squad which I'm also reading. While that one's good, this series has got a lot of painful Len Wein dialogue. Vibe is part of the JLA and required to say "amigo" every other line. Also, I didn't realize just how early DC was doing the "public turns against the superheroes!" bit, as this feature Darkseid as the main villain utilizing G. Gordon Godfrey as propagandist. Boy, they went back to that well a lot in the past decade, didn't they?

tbf that schtick is a old as the birth of marvel

Sure, but it's something of a dividing line between them, I'd have thought?

sure. DC was doing wacky superheroes well into the 80s before they caught the grim and gritty bug.

his name was Ambush Bug, iirc

POP!

were early Avengers storylines like that or something? i haven't read the early Marvel stuff in-depth... though Spider-Man of course always had people hating him as a major plot element, it didn't have this particular feeling or nostalgia behind it

X-Men were always hated and feared
Avengers and FF definitely had early storylines about them being good or bad
same, as you say, for Spider-Man
Captain America is the only earthly hero who get off without suspicion in the early MU iirc