Cyberpunk 2077

I’ve kinda gotten a kick out of corny gamer dorks seeing their lord and savior fuck up in spectacular fashion, but yeah, sympathies to the folks who had to grind this out for this result. Spectacular mismanagement.

Hoping we get some Fyre Fest exposes on wtf happened behind the scenes here.

Same here, except I wouldn't call them corny.

Have you not seem “Good Guy CDPR” memes that have flooded Reddit and such these past few years? Oof.

My adjective of choice would be noxious.

Also acceptable. It’s an array.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/style/cyberpunk-2077-video-game-disaster.html

On Glassdoor, a site where people can rate their previous employers, current and former CD Projekt Red workers said there was chaos behind the scenes: Office rumors spreading on Discord servers, misleading deadlines set by managers, infighting among the company’s top brass, and incompetence and poor planning leading to unnecessary “crunch,” a term for overworking employees to produce games under a tight deadline. Longtime engineering staff left the company as a result of overwork.

“The owners treat the company as a machine to earn money, and do not see employees as people but more like data in the table,” one former employee wrote on the site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tJthUWc13Y

If you're not on a legacy console, this is running pretty well. Malcontents will push the glitch narrative, but that's not what I'm seeing on PC. I'm seeing a remarkably fluid game engine, great art, modeling and music, and serviceable but sometimes great writing. The voice actor for female V will be in demand, the male, not so much.

The more serious complaints should be with the issues that will be much harder to iron out: Railbound narratives. Lousy enemy AI. Scaling via bullet sponges. Domino effects in the underlying RPG maths such that some character builds just steamroll through without effort (or replayability). Pervasive environmental misogyny.

My guess, as it gets sorted, and more play on current consoles, this will viewed as technically (over)ambitious, but not captivating.

Iirc in the Dunkey video says he was playing on a generally solid PC rig, too, and still ran into tons of frame rate issues, really dramatic dips. As he says, if you can get Mario Odyssey running at 60fps on a Switch, and stuff like God of War and Red Dead running stable on a base console, then there is no excuse.

There isn't any excuse for the state of it on base model last gen consoles. They done em dirty.

Just recently found out that PlayStation straight up removed it from their online store a few days ago? Damn.

imagine if this came out in april as originally planned

I just started playing GTA V on my Base PS4, a game that came out in 2014, and yeah, there is no excuse at all

you'd need to play GTA V on PS3 for the proper comparison

and also without the 5 years of patches its gotten

GTA V on 360 was pretty smooth iirc

I played GTA 5 on PS3 like first week of release. It was pretty flawless? It was released on PS3 and 360 exclusively, so it was pretty laser focused to run well on those systems. Online was jacked up, of course.

Rockstar actually a company that does this remarkably well. Read Dead 2 is still jaw dropping.

Gta v was good on xbox 360. Was the last new console game I bought 😭

yeah it was astounding what they managed to push the ps3/xbox360 into doing for gta5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3isCdVVPbk

Good commentary-free playthriugh

thanks, i think i am into that idea

Got the disc version of this as a xmas present. So far, at least with the latest patch, the game has been running decently on my base PS4. There’s some occasional frame rate dropping and stuttering (especially with vehicles) but it’s not at all unplayable.

(Of course that’s not to excuse any issues others are experiencing or the developer’s obvious greed and mismanagement of their launch.)

Gameplay-wise its nothing revolutionary but it’s a solid sandbox action RPG. The story’s pretty cliche but I’m enjoying it. Very GTA.

oh yeah i wasnt saying that GTAV was bad on release just that the PS4 version isn't the right comparison

rockstar probably also under less pressure to ship their games a year before they're finished

yeah rockstar won't announce a game until it's on a solid finish path.

i imagine one of the big factors in not delaying it again was console generation timing - 6 months from now there still isn't going to be a huge PS5/XBSX install base but the 150 million+ PS4s/XB1s in the wild are going to start collecting dust, and people would put off buying it until they can get a next gen console. despite the terrible optimization this game was always supposed to take advantage of that massive late-generation install base. most studios probably would've done the same thing if they were scared of missing that window.

seems to have worked out well enough for their bottom line anyway, in spite of everything

yeah 8 million preorders is a mindboggling number

Half a billion dollars!

A lot of people want to escape

May I just say that I've been on this website for nearly 18 years, and I've never posted a Mr. Bean video before now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Q4UacBe1A

As someone who has had Twitch on in the background for a while: C77 is less buggy than any Bethesda release upon launch, and in some respects more ambitious. Even on base PS4s. There are more serious issues with gameplay balance, which may never get fixed, but objects glitching out occurs about once every few hours, crashes every several dozen.

Yes, in its best visual form it's really demanding of graphics cards. Under 5% of Steam users have a PC with a graphics card that can do it justice (even at 1080p). I'll likely get vaccinated before I find a Ampere card at MSRP or below (Chinese Etherium miners bought most), or AMD updates its drivers to support ray tracing for lighting effects. But for those who were lucky/rich enough to have bleeding edge PCs, its really graphically stunning.

waiting for the uncut Switch version

bethesda's the real winner here since everyone's now forgotten they had the worst major game launch of the generation

For those of you lamenting there's no means of previewing clothing, a fan-made C77 fashion catalogue and inspiration magazine, as featured in Forbes. Limited to female Vs at the moment.

this is better than saints row 2 but not as good as sleeping dogs, and overall feels like those games--mid/late xbox 360 era GTA clones.

You knew this article was going to come: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-16/cyberpunk-2077-what-caused-the-video-game-s-disastrous-rollout?sref=P6Q0mxvj

I have finished Cyberpunk 2077 and the game was kind enough to give me one last treat on its way out pic.twitter.com/y5MCR9u625

— Katie Tiedrich (@katietiedrich) February 5, 2021

Def a feature rather than a bug.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CelebratedSoftBlackcrappie-size_restricted.gif

haha Thanks Snoball I was racking my head trying to recall what it was from

https://www.theguardian.com/games/2021/feb/09/makers-of-cyberpunk-2077-game-hit-by-ransomware-hack

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Holding source code for Cyberpunk 77 for ransom:

https://i.ibb.co/c3nhqdZ/RUTHLESS-PEOPLE-Bette-Midler-Judge-Reinhold-Helen-Slater-1986-c-Buena-Vista-Pictures.jpg

“Your [sic] have been EPICALLY pwned!!,” the hackers wrote, according to the note released by CD Projekt.

Indeed.

lol xp

this explains why i started seeing popular downloads of witcher 3 on several sites

leaking your source code so the public can write your patches for you, smdh

foudn this visualization of the code haha

https://i.imgur.com/uSr62Uj.png

https://i.imgur.com/B6ZoPx1.png

Whole lotta teal in this game

people on PC would harp on the gameplay but gush about the graphics, i just don't get it

yeah i'd be the opposite. i built a new pc just before this came out (not for this game -- in fact buying it was an impulse decision to "see what my new computer could do") and while i enjoyed the gunplay and the golden path missions and some of the sidequests stuff, the degree to which i needed to turn down my graphics to get even a decent framerate was very annoying and it just didn't look that good. the hud/ui, which at the very least i would have expected to look slick as fuck for a cyberpunk game, barely felt a step above fallout 3? and since the computer i built isn't a multi-thousand-dollar powerhouse or anything, i figured ah its just not that powerful, maybe nothing runs THAT good. then i installed forza horizon 4 and play it on ultra in 1440p (vs cyberpunk which i played on 1080p, didnt have new monitor yet) and consistently get 60-80 frames so uhhh