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Most people nowadays probably think of 'Jane' as 'Theme from Wet Hot American Summer'.

xpost lol, that was actually precisely what prompted this revive, as I finally watched that POS for the first time last night. Their song was pretty good! And I'd been listening to '70s Billboard hits of late and those JS songs were pretty good!

Never heard JS but, for me, JA are the ultimate Band You've Tried To Get Into But Failed, er, band,

feel like White Rabbit from years of movies and documentaries is up there with Turn, Turn, Turn and by the Byrds and Purple Haze by Hendrix as musical shorthand for "The Sixties"

I can hear a narrator saying "... and in San Francisco, a new drug fueled hippie scene emerged in the Haight Ashbury neighborhood"

for years I remembered "Find Your Way Back" as a great single by Boston

me too!

"Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" was a #1 single in the US and UK! Don't remember a thing about it.

Come on, even I know that one.

JA are fucking awesome but nobody ever talks about them so I don’t see how not caring about them in controversial?

The Outfield invented Emo

"Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" was a #1 single in the US and UK! Don't remember a thing about it.

A perfect example; when I read this post, my immediate thought wasn't "Oh yeah, that song!" it was "Wait, that was them?" JA/JS were almost totally anonymous, stylistically speaking.

to date the only jefferson starship song i've heard is the one in the star wars holiday special

i have also never managed to get into jefferson airplane but i wouldn't call them anonymous. starship sans jefferson were def anonymous, they were designed that way

"nothing's gonna stop us now" is sick as hell; "we built this city" is not a good song but i have a weird affection for its tastelessness at this point in my life

I only just now disovered that cursed earworm lyric "knee deep in the hoopla" is also the name of that album

https://external-preview.redd.it/3fwvVSKl9gJodAjBRrL6YPzfRmg8ZgP37GZcEUdRPrE.jpg?auto=webp&s=faaf74f1b6b7fdf81c8ef90ee8844e132e547337

I like "We Built This City" a lot (though ftr, that's Starship)

it was boss when the Bucs drafted Vinny Testaverde in '87 & the local radio played "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now". love that boomer optimism.

From the Wiki:

In June 1984, Paul Kantner, the last remaining founding member of Jefferson Airplane, left Jefferson Starship. In October 1984, Kantner took legal action over the Jefferson Starship name against his former bandmates.

The band briefly performed as "Starship Jefferson" while legal proceedings occurred, before settling on the shortened name "Starship".

Starship Jefferson!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTHpfZhfQbk

Nick Cave is turning into Norman Tebbit, looks-wise at least

I assume many of you have read this— ftr, I love this song, and have ahem borrowed a phrase or two for poems throughout my life.

https://www.gq.com/story/oral-history-we-built-this-city-worst-song-of-all-time

I only just now disovered that cursed earworm lyric "knee deep in the hoopla" is also the name of that album

Haha. Lot of competition in that song, "Marconi plays the mamba" being probably the most bizarre earworm lyric.

haha from that GQ oral history

I probably should've tried harder to oppose it. I had a family.

That was the best song on the album, even though it's considered the worst song of all time. The rest were a load of crap.

I'm grateful that it helps renew my health insurance, via SAG-AFTRA.

Among the people who now say they hate it are two band members and the guy who wrote the lyrics.

I know ‘forget it jake, it’s rob tannenbaum’ - but calling this the Worst Song of All Time is such absurd hyperbole, even as a framing conceit for a GQ article.

but calling this the Worst Song of All Time is such absurd hyperbole,

Exhibit A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHUsOcbv-0

"Sara" and "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" or goddamn "Miracles" are worse, but I wouldn't call them terrible except "Miracles" and not much more terrible than its contemporaries.

plus JA's own "Planes"

"Sara" is a fucking fantastic song and I will fight you over this

you're fire and ice, the dream won't come true

Storms are brewing in my eyes and my fists

when i worked at a used record store, we would often play purposely bad things to annoy our coworkers. one day, somebody played the longest jimmy buffett album he could find, so i was like, "okay, fine." and i played knee deep in the hoopla. outside of the singles, i'd never heard the rest of the album and i thought it was genuinely "so bad it's good" to the point that i bought the cassette and listened to it in my car for several years afterwards. it's cheesier than the worst cheese you can imagine, but that's why i liked it. haven't heard it in over a decade, but it's an album i can i very much enjoyed the last time i listened to it.

maybe i should revisit.

tbf Tannenbaum isn't relly calling it the worsts song of all time—it's framed up around Blender's determination and subsequent reputation as such

worst

Did he write the Blender article too? (Lol)

Austin listen to 30 seconds over winterland instead

the best darlene love christmas song is "all alone on christmas" from the home alone 2 soundtrack

Lol it is a good one

I saw her in Hairspray on Broadway in 2006. Voice hadn't diminished even a little

great video too, on account of it has macaulay culkin dancing on clarence clemons' shoulders during the sax solo

Why don't other holidays get festive tunes?

"Last Flag Day"

"I'm an April Fool for You (or am I)?"

Alfred's opinion that "Miracles" is terrible is the most controversial take I've seen in the whole Airplane/Starship conversation

xp jingle bells started out as a thanksgiving song iirc so they all just become christmas songs anyway

i originally thought alfred was talking about fleetwood mac's "sara" because i didn't realize everyone was still talking about JS, which would've been the ultimate post itt

“miracles” means so much to me, in all its rambling glory, if only you’d believe like I believe baby

Grace Slick apparently hated the song, her vocal interjections are intended to make fun of it (and Marty Balin?).

when i worked at a used record store, we would often play purposely bad things to annoy our coworkers. one day, somebody played the longest jimmy buffett album he could find, so i was like, "okay, fine." and i played knee deep in the hoopla.

Years ago a friend and i were in some LES hipster bar with a jukebox and we were wasted and had the idea to clear the place by treating the other patrons to as many plays of "we didn't start the fire" as $10 would buy.

We thought it was really hilarious at the time and waited around for over an hour to see it play out, struggling to contain our laughter the entire time. But it never came on so we approached the manager who refunded our $10.

I used to play the short clip of Chili taking a shit and talking to Puff Daddy on the TLC album. nobody ever reacted.

once I played Cannibal Corpse in a bar and they skipped the song 2 seconds in and the bartender showed up with a dollar bill and said "here is your dollar, we're not playing that"

TLC > REM

As best i remember the manager didn't actually object to our selection(s), the jukebox was just busted. We figured he was gonna say 'you guys are assholes, fuck off' but he just apologized and refunded our $10.

there was a rumor that a friend of mine got banned from a local bar for picking 15 different versions of Bohemian Rhapsody to play in a row on the Touchtunes jukebox, but it seems apocryphal because

a) I doubt Touchtunes has that any versions AND
b) the bartenders have a remote thingy where they can skip the songs, so why would they ban a dude instead of just hilariously making him waste his money by skipping them all

my two jukebox dickhead moves
- queuing up the entirety of 1999 the album
- queuing up Chicago’s “I’m a man” 5 times in a row

We put Rush’s 2112 on two or three times after being asked to leave some crowded bar (id issues).