I like the way he use those hashtags he has. I do Twitter the same way.
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 06:56 (three years ago) link
Peter Daou is, sadly, proof that internet bullying can radicalize people to the left and he’s really into it
― mh, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link
Was he bullied by the left or the right into his current day.. situation
― Nhex, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
left
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link
mocked for doing weird centrist things and being a hashtag-resistance guy iircI can’t even remember the name of that website he made that was meant to verify quotes by politicians but it was so harebrained that... well, he deserved the jokes and I think it eventually registered
― mh, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link
I don’t know much about Daou but that tweet is otm and Nancy is a real life Lucille Bluth now. I would say save the bullying for the people we pay to “represent” “us”.
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link
He was a grifter when he was doing the same exact thing he do now but in a resistance way but you can tellhe saw the light and it’s not grifting when he do it now.
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link
not too many former actual Clinton pals punching center these days. he's been at it long enough that I suspect his conversion is "genuine" (inasmuch as any social media persona can be)
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link
hey remember glenn beck's three seconds as a resistance guy
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
Appreciated this Eric Levitz piece on the "pathological tendency within a small subset of the U.S. left...of mining anti-political cynicism out of its own naïveté": https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12/jimmy-dore-aoc-medicare-for-all-strategy.html
A clear-eyed view of the political obstacles to single-payer is compatible with a wide array of strategic judgments. What it is not compatible with, however, is the judgment that anyone who does not push for Medicare for All’s passage right now is a lying, careerist shill with no commitment to the cause.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
does Daou have a Patreon? is he paid to consult? (Genuine questions i literally have no idea who he is). How does he get paid? And is he more or less of a grifter than Neera Tanden or Robbie Mook or Lisa Smith or those Mothership dorks?
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
Sir those people have jobs
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
I feel like the word "grifter" has lost its meaning.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
(NB: I have no idea who "Lisa Smith or those Mothership dorks" are. Maybe they are grifters!)
― jaymc, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link
And so how are they grifters, exactly? Who are they grifting? What's the grift?
― jaymc, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
They work on actual political campaigns. If Lis Smith could do that well running some small town mayor’s campaign Bernie probably should have tried to steal her away imo.
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link
Oh...Lis, not Lisa. Maybe Chinedu is the mark.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
It’s true that the word has lost its meeting to an extent but people who thought Daou wasn’t on the level before but he is now because he does the same thing but mirrors their exact priors back to them this time reveals something probably.
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
Oh man. Forgot about Chinedu. The fact that he turned out to be a real guy should have inspired some more reflection than it did.
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:52 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Hilary Clinton paid Peter Daou
― Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
If the CIA could do that well running some small town mayor’s campaign Bernie probably should have tried to steal them away imo.
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
The “Pete is CIA” thing is a solid example of not learning the lesson of the Chinedu debacle
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
That sentence is almost coherent.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
god i'm so glad big don abernathy is a regular poster now
― ffolkes (map), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
two things can be true xp
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
what would we do without your input big don
split other hairs and not your hairs, that's what
― ffolkes (map), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
Daou is obviously not to be trusted, he turned left after the failure of the fact check thing and then not having his loyalty to Clinton repaid.
But his face turn is hilarious and since he has no power in the world, and no one laughing at the idea of Chairman Daou has any power in the world - who fuckin' cares?
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
yes, he's fundamentally a funny figure. his house music is not bad too.
― Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
Yeah that’s true
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
"Grifter" seems to mean something like "social media influencer for politics" now. Given how con-artist-like or at least -adjacent other kinds of influencers are, I can mostly forgive how broad the term has become, even though it does imply people are cashing in on twitter or podcasting to a degree that is probably literally impossible.
― rob, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
imo "grifter" means you are materially benefitting from a genuinely outsized, possibly fraudulent rep and not from doing an actual thing. eric garland for instance I happily call a grifter because he leveraged #resistance paranoia into (possibly?) lucrative paywalled content despite making no sense ever
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
peter daou's album of "piano elegies for america" currently stands at 275 views so I suspect if he is attempting a grift he is v v bad at it
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link
I guess seeing it applied to (imo) lavishly overpaid consultants that seem to only fail upwards doesn’t really bother melike maybe Neera doesn’t make much more than a higher ranking associate at a Big Law firm (also overpaid), but those folks have to actually produce, bill ~2k hours etc. and I wouldn’t even begrudge them these salaries if they were at the least out pushing for genuine improvements in the lives of the people who have to bring them their DoorDash and handle their Amazon packages. during a gd pandemic.
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
The Mothership/Neera/think tank grifter call comes down to whether or not you think their goal is to win elections and make policy, or if their goal is essentially no different from any other marketing/PR firm (ie to skim money off the top) regardless of results.
imo Mothership: grifters, Neera: not grifter, just a person with shitty politics but she does appear to want to govern
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link
Sure dude
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
Xpost
fair pointxp
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
you got it dude Don
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link
This Mothership? https://mothershipstrategies.com/
― jaymc, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link
Yes, they're the people behind the constant IF YOU DON'T SEND ME $5 RIGHT NOW MY DOG WILL BE KILLED fundraising e-mails.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link
Can their "scare old people into giving money" tactic work possibly as well it does for Trumpers? I hope not honestly
― Nhex, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
It's extremely effective at getting people to donate AFAICT.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
Less effective at winning races - they made their name raking in the cash for 2017 Ossoff
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
did they do McGrath bc wowowowow
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
people who thought Daou wasn’t on the level before but he is now
I mean, the job might have been a grift on society but the sentiments seemed genuine in the past? I have no real way of gauging it, and maybe it's all posturing in search of a job or increased clout. But it's the same vague hollering into the void of twitter. I did not mean to imply that he was a reliable source of information or that his tweeting was worse then than now, just that he's pivoted.
and I think sic's link was about the video clip, not that it was Daou tweeting it. even a dude like Daou can spot a banana
― mh, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
It doesn’t matter what his link was about. Conversation shifted in ways that were beyond my control and it will probably happen again.
― “Big” Don Abernathy, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link