Elon Musk is the one I personally hate the most but Zuckerberg has probably done more to accelerate the demise of Western civilization than anyone on the planet
― frogbs, Monday, 21 December 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link
Close!
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link
Might need a rerun now.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 7 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link
Buh-bye:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/feb/02/jeff-bezos-amazon-ceo-resigns-steps-down
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link
Zuck still the worst imo.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link
also the person that replaces Jeff will be worse
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link
i'm sure andy jassy is a sweetheart, looking forward to the new Amazon!
i think we'll probably be hearing a lot more from bezos. he still owns washington post, blue origin, other shit, and will probably be announcing some new thing that fucking blows tomorrow
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link
Not being all that informed, I thought this was pretty good:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/feb/03/jeff-bezos-and-the-world-amazon-made
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 February 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link
Why do ppl think Zuck is worse than Bezos? Bezos is responsible for a shit ton of people in dreadfully paid, terrible jobs and destroys small businesses with his tactics.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 4 February 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link
Bezos would be pleased to control a plurality of all business on the planet, and a functional slavedriver, but seems to genuinely believe that journalism should still exist. Zuckerberg is actively attempting to destroy humanity's access to information, and to dismantle democracy, and has been appallingly successful at it so far.
― huge rant (sic), Sunday, December 20, 2020 1:52 PM (one month ago)
― shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 4 February 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link
It's hard to decide for me. Bezos does seem like a megalomaniac who wants to be King of the World - which at least is pretty easy to understand - but Zuckerberg just seems to want to destroy the whole world for some nebulous reason, like the Joker, but without the likeability.
― Nhex, Thursday, 4 February 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link
Zuck seems like he’d be a 4Chan incel if he hadn’t gotten lucky.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Friday, 5 February 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link
I'd like to think we have the Trillbillies to thank for this
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link
were they the originators of KJB?
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 5 February 2021 00:37 (three years ago) link
Addendum:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/10/worlds-top-15-hedge-fund-managers-made-232bn-in-total-last-year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orlbo9WkZ2E
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link
Jeff Bezos ruins everything. https://t.co/l9N0W3kZ7k pic.twitter.com/8ueuljNZRY— Hillary Kelly (@HillaryKelly) March 11, 2021
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
Fuck you, Jeff.
― pomenitul, Friday, 9 April 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
The Secret IRS Files: Trove of Never-Before-Seen Records Reveal How the Wealthiest Avoid Income Tax
"Turns out that many of the ultra wealthy pay NO income taxes for entire years— Soros three times, Bezos and Icahn twice, Musk and Bloomberg once. Bezos one year even claimed a $4000 child credit."
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 22:04 (two years ago) link
Buffett being on this list should end any "he's one of us" talk from misguided 99%-ers who like his pseudo-Dem railings against his own kind. in response he said "I still believe the rich should be taxed more", I guess he just doesn't wanna do so voluntarily, eh?
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 23:55 (two years ago) link
Soros had to avoid taxes due to all of the fees he owed antifa
The IRS records show that the wealthiest can — perfectly legally — pay income taxes that are only a tiny fraction of the hundreds of millions, if not billions, their fortunes grow each year.
That's because in the US we do not tax wealth, we tax income. If your stock portfolio goes up $100 billion (unrealized gains), that is not considered income. The hit comes when you cash out, though I'm sure these dudes know how to get out of a lot of that, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link
Yes, that is the premise of the article.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link
But not the headline (these super rich people don't pay taxes!) that's making the rounds.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link
Like f'ing duh...they got to get something for those politicians they buy up after all they are 'smart business people'.
With interest rates being kept near zero forever, it's pretty much a license to print money if you got money.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link
When you have that amount of insane net worth in equity you effectively never need to sell, and you get taxed on the tiny yield of dividends, which is an tinier percentage of your wealth.
That tiny amount of capital gains can probably be written off with business losses, but I don't know much about that - I imagine there are many loopholes to make your effective tax rate 0%.
Buffett paying the least makes sense in this light - from what I understand of his philosophy he likely is a less active trader than other billionaires, so even less capital gains from sales are taxable.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:07 (two years ago) link
Ah yeah, they go into it later in the article - Berkshire doesn't even give out dividends at all. I like this quick animated explainer on "Buy, Borrow, Die" too.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:19 (two years ago) link
Hey, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates... What can you do to leapfrog over these other assholes as the worst people on this list? I know! Build nuclear reactors!
https://interestingengineering.com/bill-gates-and-warren-buffett-team-up-for-1-billion-next-gen-nuclear-reactor
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 05:03 (two years ago) link
Reminder that current estimates of wealth inequality are highly conservative, because of tax avoidanceEven Forbes (which researchers use for billionaires, due to the lack of public statistics) missed this... $5 billion (!) retirement accounthttps://t.co/WuK5OPTgPb— Gabriel Zucman (@gabriel_zucman) June 24, 2021
― o. nate, Thursday, 24 June 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
I have a feeling if this poll were re-run today, Musk would win handily.
― o. nate, Monday, 7 August 2023 21:41 (eight months ago) link
was gonna say
Zuckerberg's a weirdo but he's extremely philanthropic, Bezos buys yachts the size of cruise ships
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:31 (eight months ago) link
Infuriating when I order something off eBay and it shows up in an Amazon box/bag, happened more times that I can count
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:34 (eight months ago) link
I reuse boxes, what can I say?
― Mark G, Monday, 7 August 2023 23:06 (eight months ago) link