What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

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If Biden has sense, he'll recall the old political wisdom that it's better to have the progressives "inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in". Based on the distribution of opinion on ilx, I'm pretty sure there are some who will prefer to remain outside pissing in, regardless.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 18 December 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

you know Biden, he hates old political wisdom

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 18 December 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

can't wait for him to invite ilx to piss on his tent

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 18 December 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

He should do an AMA here.

pomenitul, Friday, 18 December 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

He'd get a 7-day FP ban within 15 minutes.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Friday, 18 December 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/establishment-strikes-back-aoc-versus-centrist-democrats🕸/

But at least evil Trump is gone


It's a first step. Now we fight the centrists in our way.

Yes Virginia, there really is a (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 18 December 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

If Biden has sense, he'll recall the old political wisdom that it's better to have the progressives "inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in". Based on the distribution of opinion on ilx, I'm pretty sure there are some who will prefer to remain outside pissing in, regardless.

― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 18 December 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Old timey political wisdom.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 December 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

lol:

This link is broken...just like the neoliberal order

We are still hoping this has an easy fix.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

Old-timey, as befits an old geezer.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 18 December 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

Many of the representatives who came out most forcefully against Ocasio-Cortez have close ties to oil and gas, especially Cuellar. But perhaps more important was Cuellar’s personal opposition to AOC, as evidenced by his statement. Ocasio-Cortez backed Cuellar’s primary challenger, 27-year-old progressive Jessica Cisneros, in March’s primary. Cuellar won narrowly, with backing from the Koch political network and some last-minute campaigning from Speaker Pelosi herself, despite the fact that Cuellar regularly votes against the Democratic caucus and has routinely fundraised for Republicans.

Gotta keep room inside the tent for this guy pissing all over the sleeping bags and food.

huge rant (sic), Friday, 18 December 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

“This link is broken...just like the neoliberal order

We are still hoping this has an easy fix.”

They updated the article to remove the implication that progressive Congresswoman Degette wrote a pro fracking book when instead it was a congressional report that emphasized its dangers.

“Big” Don Abernathy, Friday, 18 December 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

stupid shit this party does rarely actually upsets me but actively, materially preventing this woman from gaining influence is so fucking infuriating

k3vin k., Friday, 18 December 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

I really want the progressive caucus to start pissing on Pelosi, it’s overdue

is right unfortunately (silby), Friday, 18 December 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

It's almost as if the centrist and center-right democrats noticed what happened to centrist and center-right republicans when the hard right started to primary them out of existence and they see AOC as the first harbinger of a similar dynamic in the Democratic Party that will eventually kick them out of their cushy jobs. For reps like that, AOC is not a smart, talented, likeable woman who can take the party to new popularity and the nation to a better more equable future, but America's Most Dangerous Woman who'll take away their perks and paychecks.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 18 December 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link

god willing.

DJI, Friday, 18 December 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

Who?

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

MIKE JONES

huge rant (sic), Friday, 18 December 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

JASON DERULO

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 December 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The least surprising news so far is that one of them stole AOC's shoes.

— Radley Balko (@radleybalko) January 11, 2021

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 11 January 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

Pretty sure a fake tweet is what started this.

pomenitul, Monday, 11 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

ben give back AOC’s shoes

— Faine Greenwood (@faineg) January 11, 2021

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 11 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

unfortunately this is just what happens when you're online enough

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Monday, 11 January 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link

First occurrence of this joke as far as I can tell:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/kuccfo/aoc_lets_us_in_on_one_of_the_more_bizarre_crimes/

pomenitul, Monday, 11 January 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

Someone is walking a mile in them as we speak.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 11 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

is it ben shapiro? i keep hearing rumors

Karl Malone, Monday, 11 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

Where are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flats?

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Monday, 11 January 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link

worth your time

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ-OkgNAO1N/

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

62 minutes of my time?

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

of any politician i can think of, she probably is

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

i said through gritted teeth bc i reflexively hate all politicians

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

62 minutes of my time?

I'm only halfway through at the moment but imo: yes

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link

I'd prefer to hear 20 different podcasts excerpt and analyze it for me

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

if it helps she wraps up her "rant" (her term) at 40mins and starts taking questions

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

There goes my presidetn:

Thank you to @AOC for showing up at the #HuntsPointStrike to show us that solidarity is a verb. @nycDSA will be there until @TeamstersJC16 Local 202 wins their demand for a fair wage! pic.twitter.com/D8H1duqP86

— Honda Wang 🌹 (@HondaWang) January 21, 2021

Fetchboy, Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:40 (three years ago) link

OH MY GOD pic.twitter.com/HeldBn7hf6

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) January 28, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link

the fact that she's willing to be this accusatory publicly makes me wonder a couple things

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link

"I had a pretty traumatizing event happen to me," Ocasio-Cortez explained. "And I do not know if I can even disclose the full details of that event due to security concerns but I can tell you that I had a very close encounter where I thought I was going to die."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/politics/ocasio-cortez-ted-cruz-capitol-attack/index.html

RandPaul's Drag Race (Leee), Friday, 29 January 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link

being around Ted Cruz would make me want to die

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 January 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link

GOD i hope they're gonna be able to indict the fuckers that clearly aided and abetted the capital coup

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 January 2021 05:45 (three years ago) link

ha!

k3vin k., Friday, 29 January 2021 05:48 (three years ago) link

the fact that she's willing to be this accusatory publicly makes me wonder a couple things

yeah, i remember dark tweets a week or two ago suggesting there was a lot of unsettling stuff to come out from the insurgency at the Capitol, I wonder when it will surface?

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Friday, 29 January 2021 12:30 (three years ago) link

Nothing is going to happen to any sitting member of congress. Several of them openly committed "insider" trading this time last year and nothing came of it (though one lost an election partially because of it).

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Friday, 29 January 2021 12:36 (three years ago) link

I find it a little weird that she is being so vague about something so serious, especially given how angry she remains. If Cruz or someone else truly, directly put her life at risk, then why not say exactly how? Did he tell people where her office is? Did he tell people to go there? It's unclear to me why an ongoing investigation would prevent her from making a specific accusation. If he's a danger, or did something criminal, what is she waiting for?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 January 2021 13:58 (three years ago) link

I think she said in one of her streams she'd been advised/requested to keep information back for security reasons.

new variant (onimo), Friday, 29 January 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

she says that right in Leee's post upthread too

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 January 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link

reading the tea leaves here I would guess that a sitting member of Congress did inform one of the attackers where her office was. 2 weeks ago there some chatter about who gave tours of the Capitol the day before the attack and I think it was implied that a Republican, who is probably under an active investigation right now, pointed out to some of them where exactly their targets could be found

I don't think this was Cruz, but he was spreading all the voter fraud BS and directly encouraging people to "stand up and fight"

frogbs, Friday, 29 January 2021 14:28 (three years ago) link

xpost I know what she was advised, I just don't see why she would necessarily decide to take that advice. Let's say someone specifically did send people after AOC. Let's say that person is under investigation. How would accusing that person of doing such a thing affect the investigation? Is the worry it could scare off others (non congress) involved? Are they waiting for more communications between parties under investigation? I guess these things are all possible, it's just weird that AOC would say anything at all, more than once, but not say anything more than that.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 January 2021 15:17 (three years ago) link

...and also tell ted cruz he tried to get her killed, which is pretty specific, but not be more specific about whatever’s *out there*

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 29 January 2021 15:20 (three years ago) link

i'm guessing the FBI told her to stay quiet while they're investigating members of Congress to not move the needle / embolden others to try again, but she's legit pissed off and had to slip something

Nhex, Friday, 29 January 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

lol what the fuck is this

INBOX: Rep. Chip Roy letter to Pelosi on AOC accusing Sen. Cruz of attempted murder: “If Representative Ocasio-Cortez does not apologize immediately, we will be forced to find alternative means to condemn this regrettable statement...” pic.twitter.com/YIHNrZBYRS

— Henry Rodgers (@henryrodgersdc) January 29, 2021

could Republicans spare an ounce of this anger for the insurrectionists who literally tried to murder the VP

frogbs, Friday, 29 January 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link


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