PINK FLOYD

iirc i did a discog run at the beginning of the pandemic, but that may have been inspired by seeing this thread in the SNA a lot

never a bad time to remind yourself that pink floyd rules

Pink Floyd whut? (puts hand to ear)

PINK FLOYD RULES

This thread must be quite infuriating for the naysayers.

Not really. I am a naysayer but not minding this thread.

Happy to hear it.

It would be a good bit to hate on Pink Floyd but in exactly the manner of a 1970s british punk as though time had not passed since then

I have my hands full hating Zappa, The Dead and Stoner, so I give Floyd a pass.

I will mostly credit this thread for getting me to listen to The Pink Floyd approx. 10,000% more this year than the rest of my life. (Grew up with a slightly irrational hate of 'em.) Also, good 'headphones music', which the times call for.

How good is Animals btw.

Animals RULES

Animals gives me bad bad vibes, it’s not something I can listen to often

I have my hands full hating Zappa, The Dead and Stoner, so I give Floyd a pass.

― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:17 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Floyd is an interesting band in that I associate them with acts like this, but they are conceptually a band (post Meddle) about musical restraint

Animals gives me bad bad vibes, it’s not something I can listen to often

man do I ever feel this...a quandary because it's *also* in some ways what I think of as the "best" Floyd record(?)

But yeah if I'm feeling even remotely vulnerable to a personal downturn...no.

the vibes get even worse post-Animals: The Wall & The Final Cut are some of the best-selling bummer records ever made.

the restraint is my problem. I'm told they're this far out pretentious avant garde space prog band and then I hear DSOTM and it's just so tasteful

musically that is, conceptually they're far from tasteful or restrained

For pretension, avant-garderie, space and prog go directly to Ummagumma.

I like that one. well I like the live part and I want to like the rest more than I do

but I get bummer vibes from most of their post Barrett stuff. I thought I had a bleak and cynical view of the world

Still not a fan, but am willing to give them a chance because that bummer part is intentional on their part, as opposed to others I mentioned.

parts is parts

I sort of think of them as 5 eras:

Syd era
Syd-Meddle/Obscured by Clouds
DSOTM-Animals
Wall-Final Cut
Gilly 80s/90s revival

1. great
2. interesting
3. respectable
4. no
5. I don't know

Like I could appreciate the glum disco of “The Wall” as a kind of anti-Bee Gees.

the vibes get even worse post-Animals: The Wall & The Final Cut are some of the best-selling bummer records ever made.

I don't get as bummed by these records because I bought when they came out, I was 10-13 years old, they had poppy elements and I hadn't yet had sufficent personal darknesses (!) to hear them that way.

Animals otoh which I heard much later is just relentlessly bleak and brown (?) and sounds like it wants me to walk off a pier

...with a stone tied around your neck.

I like "Wish You Were Here" but after "Obscured By Clouds" they're mostly a tasteful 70s rock band, a kind of glum Dire Straits. Not a terrible thing to be necessarily but a long way from space rockin'.

I can't, for the life of me, hear what's so special about "Animals". Not that it's bad, it's perfectly listenable.

lol @ "glum Dire Straits", I disagree but that's a fair shot

love over gold / brothers in arms dire straits is kinda Pink Floyd combined with Bruce Springsteen

Operative word is “glum.” xp

In the New Year I resolve to type xp less often

I tend to find Pink Floyd’s restraint yields no small amount of empty spaces, which is perhaps truer to the ‘cosmic’ label that so many of their peers were going for.

There’s also far more going on structurally than in Dire Straits’s music, although the comparison is hilarious precisely because there’s a grain of truth to it.

I can imagine Waters writing The Man's Too Strong.

IDK, what Dire Straits songs put that comparison in mind? To me they seem very opposite, dry vs wet, taut vs expansive, blunt vs smooth etc.

There is definitely something about the moodiness of Floyd that I am starting to remember "this is why I haven't listened to them for a while." I played Dogs on repeat every time I listened to music for like a week straight and it really started to impact my mental well-being.

IDK, what Dire Straits songs put that comparison in mind? To me they seem very opposite, dry vs wet, taut vs expansive, blunt vs smooth etc.

I do think there is a kind of similarity btw Gilmore and Knopfler in a sort of tonal "cleanliness," something very Guitar Center in the sound

like no doubt at this moment some happy bachelor is demo-ing his new Wharfedale's w an album by one of these two artists

guitar center is generally 8 dudes playing different scrawling horrific metal tone distortion all over walls melding into one giant tension headache cacophony more than david gilmour or dire straits tastefulness

thats' true, this guy is deep in the weeds at Steve Hoffman, he doesn't even risk playing these records except on very special occasions

ums technically correct, but Hadrian VIII was correct in spirit.

both groups both touchstones of tone attorneys

yes it's like the Platonic ideal of what a Guitar Center could be like if all their customers subscribed to Mojo

honestly a lot of those guys probably turn up their nose at guitar center's off-the-rack mass produced stuff, you need that boutique, hand-wired shit and 70s les pauls and strats

Gilmour plays slowly though, something I have never heard anyone in a guitar center attempt to do

The archetypal guitar center sound is distortion not cranked loud enough so that you can hear the awful acoustic slapping sound of the electric guitar strings with a very thin layer of noise on top.

are we harshing the Floyd rules thread, I do like Pink Floyd ok

Gilmour's tone def rules

if one was so inclined, one might say that Pink Floyd rules

Gilmour's tone is like a fallen angel sobbing and singing at the same time.