Bolt the door, Varg is loose!

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what a fucking dolt

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link

varg seems to spend a lot of his time online fighting with christian nazis who hate paganism. hopefully they’ll manage to hurt each other somehow

Left, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

there is an endless stream of astroturfed media bullshit about twitter moderation being too harsh on conservatives (basically nazis anyway) and dorsey clearly believes it himself the fuck

Left, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

a friend of mine had a semi-popular left shitpost account and he got banned from twitter for being mean to a gen z nazi

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link

A quick TP Quality Test:

Do you:

-vaccinate
-marry "someone that doesn't look like you"
-kneel to some false desert "god" (of ANY type)
-believe the Earth is flat
-think Nordic is NOT the ideal
-vote
-think 88 is BAD

If you answer "yes" to ANY ONE of these, you FAIL the test. pic.twitter.com/HH3ZwtX6GL

— Varg Vikernes (Thulêan Perspective) (@GandalftheWhi19) December 9, 2020

-prefer 'Juice' over 'Milk(y white)'.
-think history is NOT a lie
-call yourself "Aryan"
-want to BE the 'Juice' (= CI)
-think "Western" civilization is a good thing
-watch porn
-believe Judeo-Christians are our allies
-burn leaves in your back yard
-kill spiders in your home

— Varg Vikernes (Thulêan Perspective) (@GandalftheWhi19) December 9, 2020

-sleep around
-prefer school to home-schooling
-believe in patriarchy OR matriarchy
-think feminism is a good thing
-think MGTOWs are NOT absolute Losers
-eat only Vegan food
-have a "Carnivore" diet
-think the current pandemic is "made up"
-think China/Russia/USA is our friend

— Varg Vikernes (Thulêan Perspective) (@GandalftheWhi19) December 9, 2020

pomenitul, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

i guess i'm not up-to-speed with my hatespeech - what is 'juice'?

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:44 (three years ago) link

I was also confused by that one. I get the reference to milk, but I'm used to seeing fash cretins contrast it with soy, not juice.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link

literally everything in varg’s first list ultimately means jews right? tweet could be a fantastic teaching tool for breaking down how antisemitism functions in 2020 or 1933, there is so much in there

some of the others too but the fashy infighting material would have to be for a more advanced class

Left, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link

these fucks love their plausible deniability so I wouldn’t be surprised if the juice is a pun/code which also happens to be an innocent thing they can trigger the sjws with

Left, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised if it all boils down to 'TEH JEWS' for him. I mean:

The face of rot, decay, hatred and degeneracy.

If you see him argue in favour of something, then you can be sure that it is something that will hurt )))Europe(((.

Boycott, oppose, undermine & talk up against him and his Satanic lot whenever and wherever you can.#Soros pic.twitter.com/gr24wuiZ8C

— Varg Vikernes (Thulêan Perspective) (@GandalftheWhi19) December 9, 2020

And yeah, I very much agree, re: 'a fantastic teaching tool for breaking down how antisemitism functions in 2020 or 1933'.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

why post racist tweets by a known racist? what's the point?

treeship., Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

yeah the only thing i could think of was juice = jews, but it didn't make much sense in context. but neither did the rest of the list so

kites aren't fun (NickB), Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

it’s jews and milk is nordics/whites

Left, Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link

treesh, if there's a thread for discussing these tweets, it's definitely this one. I hadn't realized that you can get away with quite *this* much obvious dog-whistling on Twitter.

pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

it doesn't seem like dog whistling? he is a known white supremacist in addition to a murderer.

treeship., Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link

When I made a post a few weeks ago about a friend in mental health crisis posting Nazi shit, he was posting Burzum and Varg shit. He's Jewish. Still don't know what to do about it.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link

oh the discussion is about why he isn't banned. he probably just hasn't been flagged enough times yet.

treeship., Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link

I’m sure he has but there’s no harm in doing it more. twitter claims mass reporting doesn’t work but that’s an obvious lie

Left, Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link

this person genuinely needs to *** immediately as do all his followers

fuck metal in general for providing these scum with safe spaces and excuses for so long

Left, Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link

it doesn't seem like dog whistling?

Technically, replacing 'Jews' with 'Juice' (which I hadn't even picked up on at first) counts as dog-whistling in my book, at least for purposes of circumventing Twitter's rules.

pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link

I’m not sure how this dude has avoided being murdered

DJP, Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link

fuck metal in general for providing these scum with safe spaces and excuses for so long

― Left, Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:30 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

agreed on one level but also metal isn't special here

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:17 (three years ago) link

true, see this nazi hippie in my town

https://cldc.org/weed-nazi-denied-access-to-anonymous-antifascist-website/

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:25 (three years ago) link

fuck metal in general for providing these scum with safe spaces and excuses for so long

how's that

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:26 (three years ago) link

Thought that first Varg tweet list was a parody account at first.

circa1916, Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:51 (three years ago) link

I guess I thought he was more subtly stupid/racist. Apparently swinging for the fences.

circa1916, Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:52 (three years ago) link

his twitter handle always gets me - you'd expect some reference to an ancient saga, something his fellow shitheads would recognize as reflecting the Old Ways or whatever, but no, he's racist Gandalf.

JoeStork, Thursday, 17 December 2020 06:46 (three years ago) link

Gandalf the White, one of the series’s more heavy handed allegories for the Jewish guy Varg despises Christians for worshipping. I guess he just liked the sound of the white part

Left, Thursday, 17 December 2020 07:06 (three years ago) link

Let's not be disingenuous-- there's a serious problem with white supremacy in metal, more than in other genres, and no matter how hard some people here try to wave it off, it's worth discussing.

"Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Thursday, 17 December 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

I don't think it should be waved off. The metal scene is home to more fash assholes than most other genres, no doubt about it.

pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

metal also home to more dyed-in-the-wool antifa than most other genres too

imago, Thursday, 17 December 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

it isn't too functionally dissimilar to punk except metal also has i suppose a space for those who aren't politically polarised

imago, Thursday, 17 December 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

#bothsides

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 December 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

it's always funny when people say oh metal isn't unique in this when the rolling metal threads have another band milkshake duck themselves for being fash on a biweekly basis that doesn't seem to happen elsewhere

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 December 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

Of all the genres I listen to, metal is the only one where every time I come across a new band I like, I pray (to the loathsome Judeo-Christian God iirc) that its members aren’t neo-nazi edgelords, especially if it’s BM we’re talking about. I’m comfortable with drawing a distinction between assholes and their art at least 99% of the time (and this is a concern that greatly exceeds the metal sphere) but I strive to avoid purchasing fash-stained goods, especially if their makers are still alive and spewing their moronic bile on Twitter unchecked.

Btw Varg’s latest LP was quite mediocre.

pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

who in metal is the antifa varg?

kites aren't fun (NickB), Thursday, 17 December 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

Barney Greenaway maybe?

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Thursday, 17 December 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

Greenway sorry https://thequietus.com/articles/29091-napalm-death-interview-2

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Thursday, 17 December 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

Metal BLM compilations are now a thing fwiw.

pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

why isn't the racist stuff called white metal?

StanM, Thursday, 17 December 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

White masses are a no-no.

pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

the blackness=darkness=evil thing is another whole can of worms tbh. it’s not completely unrelated

do we have to do #notallmetal every time with this? is there another thread for the good antifascist stuff?

Left, Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

who in metal is the antifa varg?

Barney Greenway — and indeed Napalm Death more broadly, since there's never been a story about one member disagreeing with the others on politics. (Their late guitarist Jesse Pintado was also a member of Resistant Culture, a Native American grind band whose albums Welcome to Reality and All One Struggle are excellent.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

do we have to do #notallmetal every time with this?

Yes.

imago, Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

He's against burning leaves?

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

what if you burn down a church but accidentally scorch some shrubbery?

kites aren't fun (NickB), Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

Fuck you, imago

DJP, Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link

metal is my favorite genre and yet I have no trouble saying it has a major problem with racism/nazism/fascism/misogyny that I've basically had to spend almost the entirety of the time I've been listening to it fighting against this element.

yeah, liberal/antifa/BLM/progressive/good people metal is also a think and it exists, but I don't think we need to tiptoe around the fact that we have some real lowlifes in the genre. fans and bands both.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 December 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

*thing

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 December 2020 23:04 (three years ago) link

i also love metal and i don't listen to very much black metal, and i feel like i am more likely to find ppl who would punch nazis than ppl who would be nazis at things like maryland deathfest and etc. this is my experience of the genre. i'm not really trying to express "#notallmetal" here, all of this stuff deserves to be interrogated and the racists and fascists need to be rooted out and deplatformed, obviously. i'm sort of sorry i even said anything

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link


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