it all sucks but they didn't have wills so here we are
new MTPITD pressings sound great, at least
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
i'm still waiting on mine but i think the dais version of time machines sounds fucking awesome
― adam, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
sleeve: what liner notes were you looking for 2 weeks ago? MTPITD doesn't have any? (my original CD has the track titles + A Chalice Recording / Graal CD002 on the back (the word Red in red, twice), then a multicolored ring on the inner artwork with john balance, thighpaulsandra, peter christopherson, drew mcdowall around it, and that's it for notes)
― StanM, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link
lyrics here http://www.brainwashed.com/common/htdocs/discog/graal002.php?site=coil08
― StanM, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link
Anyone else still waiting on their Dais order of MTPITD? I managed to snag a first edition but no sign of it yet
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link
raises handConsidering trans atlantic shipping and covid19, I'm waiting patiently..
― willem, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link
xps StanM it's extremely frustrating, but they did write liner notes talking about the MTPITD songs specifically, and they used to be online. They were not included in the actual release.
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
Can you remember what website they were on? maybe check archive.org?
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
90% sure they used to be on the damn Brainwashed site! SO frustrating, I remember they described "Red Birds" as "99% Thighpaulsandra" for example. Just a paragraph or two about each song.
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
check pp. 207-209 of this pdf:
http://www.barringtonarts.com/GoldenAge_Bloodsports.pdf
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
from wiki:
"Jhonn Balance originally wished to create a cohesive set of liner notes for Musick to Play in the Dark, which ended up only being published on Coil's website at the time.[4]"
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
"In them, he outlined the meanings of songs: "Are You Shivering?" refers to MDMA trips he took part in with friends, where they "would ask if each other were shivering, as pure doses can make the teeth chatter and the eyesight vibrate", "Broccoli" is "about greens and ancestor worship", and "Strange Birds", built around a found quote, refers to a period when Jhonn "regressed to BIRD MIND and only squawked and chirruped for three worrying days".[4] He stated that Coil had begun creating "lunar consciousness musick", and were "letting in things we shut out before"; "The feminine. The tidal. The cyclical."[4]"
Yeah that's how I found it :) Note 4.
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
anagram that's it, thanks!
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
really wish those had been included w/ the reissue
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link
print it off and slip it inside the, er, sleeve :)
drip some of your own blood onto it for your own personalized Coil reissue
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link
ooooh, nice - thanks for the link and info
― StanM, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link
what thehttps://imgur.com/a/Hg9oC7K
― StanM, Thursday, 17 December 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link
https://imgur.com/a/Hg9oC7K
definitely one for the "famous people you wouldn't expect to see together" thread
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 17 December 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link
wiki says she did a TV commercial for the Bristol & West Building Society that he worked on, presumably that's the connection.
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 17 December 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link
I'd guess he would have had interactions with the artists Hipgnosis worked with too? Don't know if there's any pics of him with UFO or the Scorpions or whoever though.Never realised his dad had a knighthood btw! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derman_Christopherson
― that's a hard e-no from me (Matt #2), Thursday, 17 December 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link
LSD!
https://infinitefog.bandcamp.com/album/loves-secret-domain-30th-anniversary-edition
― manuel, Saturday, 19 December 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link
was wondering when that was gonna happen
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 19 December 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link
Just purchased. Thanks! Doesn't ship till May so that'll be a nice surprise after I've forgotten about it. My fourth favorite Coil after HR, MTPIND1, and AoN, but still a perfect record
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link
Hmm, so I've heard that the Infinite Fog version there is not necessarily a 'real' reissue. (But what is real?)
In any event, Wax Trax have announced their own specific reissue for June:
https://www.facebook.com/WaxTraxRecords.Chicago/posts/2015838131886611
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link
that makes... much more sense
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link
Rather.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:28 (three years ago) link
Check out this all-Coil two hour mix. I don't know if it's an introduction for newbies or a best of or what but I know what I like.
https://www.nts.live/shows/in-focus/episodes/in-focus-coil-31st-october-2020
― paolo, Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
My understanding is that MTPITD and Ape Of Naples are the fans' favourite albums but what would be the top tracks if there was a poll? I'm guessing Tainted Love would be up there.
― paolo, Thursday, 31 December 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
I think Broccoli would be my fave.
the book is really quite amazing, but it's a bit frustrating that all the magazine articles reproduced are almost all at least partially obscured, I'm guessing to avoid copyright issues
the full page color artwork stuff is just fabulous, and some of the correspondence is too (Cosey getting pissed about the Assume Power Focus boot LP)
otm about Broccoli
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 31 December 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
Would anyone care to scan and upload the entire book for those of us currently in the poor house?
Not serious btw!
I'd be very surprised if Tainted Love made a top tracks Coil poll, much as i love it.
My no. 1 has remained the same for near enough 3 and a half decades. Ostia, always and forever.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 31 December 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link
Broccoli at 2. Going Up at 3. Beyond that, a crapshoot.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 31 December 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
Someone do a Coil poll!
― stirmonster, Thursday, 31 December 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
Please.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 31 December 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
Why the hell not, what better way to see in the new year
― paolo, Thursday, 31 December 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
I've never run a poll, but I would try that
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 31 December 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
Yay!
― stirmonster, Thursday, 31 December 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link
I'm in for a poll
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 31 December 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
The Ape Of NaPOLLs - it's the Coil albums poll
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 31 December 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link
wait so what is the deal with the infinite fog reissue? is it not authorized?
― akm, Thursday, 31 December 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link
arguably none of the reissues are authorised. i think the infinite fog one is one step away from being a bootleg.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 31 December 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
It's a little um, unclear what "commissioned artwork by Steven Stapleton" means. I mean.. it was originally wasn't it?
― Germs! Germs! Germs! (Noel Emits), Thursday, 31 December 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link
This is all probably upthread somewhere, but did neither of them have any relatives or anything? Surely the assets of an estate would revert to the next of kin under the rules of intestacy, or failing that the Treasury (which would mean the Crown could legally reissue Coil LPs, lol).
― meanwhile back at the song (Matt #2), Thursday, 31 December 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link
Yes, there are relatives but it is ultra complicated and it seems nobody is able to agree on anything so it all sits perennially in limbo.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 31 December 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link
consensus feeling that wax trax reissue will be better than the infinite fog one? didn't see any mastering details and infinite fog's bandcamp page is almost impossible to read with dark text on a dark background.
― akm, Thursday, 31 December 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link
I ordered the Infinite Fog one before I saw the Wax Trax reissue announcement so I hope the Infinite Fog one is legit in the sense that it, uh, arrives
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 1 January 2021 00:24 (three years ago) link
Really into S&CS for a few months now. The alternate versions of "Futhur" and "Love's Secret Domain" blow me away every time. Could anyone recommend other stuff in this vein, not necessarily Coil-related?
― manuel, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link
I wish there was more music (by anyone) that sounded anything like Batwings.
― toby, Saturday, 30 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link