sort of bizarre to see people on this board still caring about this
new borad description
alternately, just paste it into a position:fixed div and let it hover in every thread on every topic for all times
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
if they do end up getting picked up by a different network, this will probably end up being a good thing for the show. i had appletv free for a month and there was nothing i would conceive of watching a minute of on it
― flopson, Monday, December 14, 2020 2:09 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
Ted lasso is v good but will not alleviate concerns abt the critical capacities of Apple tv
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 16 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link
toxic gossip, class warfare, clickbait and gross public shaming of people
it truly was a great website
― flopson, Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link
rip
― k3vin k., Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:42 (three years ago) link
uhhh
https://jezebel.com/who-forgot-to-invite-chun-li-to-the-mortal-kombat-1846300631
― if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 February 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link
this looked like an obvious joke post that an editor later shat on
― if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 February 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
it was published at 4:20pm
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 February 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link
Journalism
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 February 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link
Big Defector update via Margaret Sullivan in the Washington Post. In sum, it's doing quite well for now:
And vital encouragement came when the group first announced its intentions to start a new site: More than 10,000 people immediately signed up as subscribers (the entry level is $8 a month; it costs a bit more for those who want to comment on stories). Tens of thousands of others would follow — enough to pay for the $50,000 minimum salaries of more than 20 staffers. Higher “target salaries” depend on the success of the site and on particular job responsibilities.Subscriptions provide the only form of revenue. The site has no ads, and hasn’t resorted to any membership campaigns in the tradition of public television.Each of the founding employees holds a financial stake in the company of about 5 percent; new staffers get a somewhat smaller share but all have an equal vote in major decisions. A two-thirds vote of the staff could result in editor Tom Ley’s firing.“That’s terrifying and comforting at the same time,” Ley told me. “There is the possibility of me screwing stuff up, which is the scary part.” But, he says, if the staff does fire him, “at least it will be because of me,” not because of a corporate decision from on high.I asked Ley whether he thought Defector would still be around in three years. He admitted that he’s hopeful but uncertain.“There is going to be a white-knuckle moment of truth” at the one-year mark next summer, he said, when the initial one-year subscriptions expire.
Subscriptions provide the only form of revenue. The site has no ads, and hasn’t resorted to any membership campaigns in the tradition of public television.
Each of the founding employees holds a financial stake in the company of about 5 percent; new staffers get a somewhat smaller share but all have an equal vote in major decisions. A two-thirds vote of the staff could result in editor Tom Ley’s firing.
“That’s terrifying and comforting at the same time,” Ley told me. “There is the possibility of me screwing stuff up, which is the scary part.” But, he says, if the staff does fire him, “at least it will be because of me,” not because of a corporate decision from on high.
I asked Ley whether he thought Defector would still be around in three years. He admitted that he’s hopeful but uncertain.
“There is going to be a white-knuckle moment of truth” at the one-year mark next summer, he said, when the initial one-year subscriptions expire.
Also recently hired Laura Wagner and Kalyn Kahler.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link
Each of the founding employees holds a financial stake in the company of about 5 percent; new staffers get a somewhat smaller share but all have an equal vote in major decisions. A two-thirds vote of the staff could result in editor Tom Ley’s firing.“That’s terrifying and comforting at the same time,” Ley told me. “There is the possibility of me screwing stuff up, which is the scary part.” But, he says, if the staff does fire him, “at least it will be because of me,” not because of a corporate decision from on high.
this is the most FOUNDING FATHERS vibe i've felt in so long. fuck yeah for people who actually believe in democracy
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 21 February 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link
The power of charging people to post cannot be denied. Maybe something for ILX to consider - a $1 toll to gain posting privileges on a thread.
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 22 February 2021 04:19 (three years ago) link
Gawker's coming back https://t.co/Z2XQ21BmlA pic.twitter.com/fOJm9hqBVi— Ben Smith (@benyt) April 11, 2021
― mookieproof, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:55 (three years ago) link
Didn't they already try that?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 April 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link
prob unfair but a few years ago leah finnegan retweeted a transphobic piece by natasha vargas-cooper and i've always held that against her :)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 12 April 2021 00:11 (three years ago) link
feel like she did some other sketchy stuff that i can’t remember
― mookieproof, Monday, 12 April 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link
Pour one out or something?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/will-gawkers-swashbuckling-style-survive-upcoming-relaunch
But Gawker could also punch down, something that happened more often in its later years, by which time the blog as an insurgent had itself become an established character. “Punching down was often never a good look for Gawker,” Kamer noted. It felt that way, Snyder recalls, “when there was blood on the floor of the Condé Nast tower,” referring to a controversial post about an executive’s private life—the removal of which caused the site’s then editor in chief Max Read to resign in protest, and other staffers, including Finnegan, to take buyouts. Days after the blowup, Denton announced his new vision for Gawker, reportedly telling those who remained that he wanted it to be “20% nicer.” (I asked to interview Read for this piece, but he told me he’s “suffering from a serious brain injury that has erased my memory of everything that happened between the years 2010 and 2016.”)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link
There are some very good quotes from former staffers in that piece. Whatever form Gawker takes when it "returns," people will complain about it. The problem with a site that talks a lot of shit is that it's great until they're talking shit about someone you like. Then you're obligated to bleat about how it's "punching down."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link
Often never a good look
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link
this is exhausting
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link
lmao at the Read quote, not gonna read the rest
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link
e’s “suffering from a serious brain injury that has erased my memory of everything that happened between the years 2010 and 2016.”
man, i miss max
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link
he's regularly in new york mag if you didn't know
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link
otm
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link
ONAGL?
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link
Eugene ONAGL
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link
lollll
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 3 June 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link
https://www.theonion.com/trump-forced-to-shut-down-blog-after-publishing-hulk-ho-1847026382
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 4 June 2021 00:35 (two years ago) link
never forget that one of the names most pivotal to the shifting of the media landscape in the early 2000s was bubba the love sponge
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 June 2021 01:03 (two years ago) link
At the end of the video, Clem can be heard telling Heather, "If we ever need to retire, here is our ticket". Hogan filed a lawsuit against the Clems for invading his privacy on October 15, 2012. He settled the suit on October 29, 2012. Following the settlement, Clem publicly apologized to Hogan. Hogan sued Gawker Media for publishing the tape, and a jury of six awarded Hogan more than $140 million in March 2016.
― mh, Friday, 4 June 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link
i like her but nevertheless feel unsettled
which is bullshit; nu nu nu gawker is not actually different from any other outlet
officially open for features pitches! not looking for anything super newsy at this time but if there’s something you’ve wanted to write for ages and haven’t because you’re not sure who would take a chance on it i want to hear from you! bra✧✧✧.jen✧✧✧@gaw✧✧✧.c✧✧— Brandy Jensen (@BrandyLJensen) June 1, 2021
― mookieproof, Friday, 4 June 2021 04:01 (two years ago) link
I hope they bring back the Gawker Stalker map, that was the best
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 4 June 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link
https://deadspin.com/rachel-nichols-comments-about-maria-taylor-are-latest-1847231057
some great journalism going on over there
― k3vin k., Monday, 5 July 2021 23:37 (two years ago) link
That is a super-weird piece. Kind of trying to take credit for having part of the scoop but failing to nail down the rest of it, and actually publishing something kind of counter to the scoop instead.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 July 2021 23:40 (two years ago) link
Video Got Sent To Us
― k3vin k., Monday, 5 July 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link
i've seen ppl freaking out because she's married to mike nichols' son, who is diane sawyer's stepson. but she'd already been at the washington post for years before she married him; you can shit on her for any number of things, but the nepotism angle is weak
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 01:38 (two years ago) link
i think the nepotism thing rings hollow in her earlier career but getting to espn a few years later, it couldnta hurt
― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 01:43 (two years ago) link
What's gawker again? Rings a bell
― Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 01:44 (two years ago) link
i mean a lot of newspaper journalists made their way to espn in the same era that rachel did. she was a woman on an NHL beat in the 90s. any questions re: her qualifications to do any job in sports journalism should be dismissed immediately.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 01:55 (two years ago) link
this entire thing sucks btw, she said something shitty in what she thought was a private conversation, which every single human being alive has done.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link
i am in no way questioning her qualifications. its hard af for women -- non-former athlete women especially -- to break into that job.
― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 01:59 (two years ago) link
xp *Stephen A voice* HOWEVER
this is not just a shitty thing said in private. it was a racist thing about her Black coworker that was recorded to a company server which not every single human alive has done.
― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 02:00 (two years ago) link
yes, it is a meaningful transgression for which there should be some kind of consequence and that's about as far as i'm comfortable adjudicating it.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 02:19 (two years ago) link
tbf she has advanced at espn because she is both good and attractive, and i'm sure she's aware of the tokenism that's been involved all along
can only assume she has had to fight for roles again and again, as many other media figures do, but this time it's tokenism vs tokenism -- or perhaps the absolute opposite and they are both great and merely fighting for a job? idk
let doris run espn imo
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link
I think the story is pretty mild as far as rachel nichols specifically goes — I agree with CAD — but ESPN’s handling of it was telling. and I really just wanted to lol at scab deadspin
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 July 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link
Go check Twitter, it’s still trending. People have a lot to say. Some of it is really good conversation
lol
― mh, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link
yeah, that line stood out to me too. evergreen!
― burly crafty woodsman (James Harden) vs tall ethereal phantom (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link
https://defector.com/the-current-version-of-deadspin-cant-even-eat-shit-correctly/
― burly crafty woodsman (James Harden) vs tall ethereal phantom (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link
airing out the editors is past baggage but 100% the right move
I’ve noticed that a lot of writing fails to determine or frame1. is there a story here?2. What is the story?3. How do we frame this competently given what we have?
the deadspin new hires are either given no editorial guidance or really shitty vague crap imo
when does that nu-gawker launch?
― mh, Thursday, 8 July 2021 03:46 (two years ago) link
wtf sorry